A rant regarding the problem with HD fanboys.

A Quick Look of the just-release hack-and-slasher Muramasa:  The Demon Blade was posted on the site today.  Aside from Ryan's inexplicable reluctance to find out what the B Button does, the video does a good job of showing just how pretty the game looks in motion.  It's an excellent game and one of the best Wii games yet.  From the time I've spent with it, I'd recommend it to anyone with the console.  It's just a shame that any time a game like this comes along, there's always that group of knuckleheads that feels the need to post comments like these:
 
"I would play this if it was on PS3, PS2 or X360
 
No thanks to a Wii version though"
 
"Man, I'm really sold on this game but I don't think I'm ready to buy a Wii just yet... I wish it would come to 360 or PS3."
 
"If this was on XBL Arcade, I'd be willing to pay 15 bucks for it.  But nothing makes we want a Wii."
 
"Can't help thinking that this should have been a downloadable PSN/XBLA game. Too bad."
 
"word, I want this game in HD."
 
I can understand not wanting it if it's not your cup of tea, or if you just don't have the time or money for it, or in general just don't have the interest.  But seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?  The moment a Wii game that would appeal to a crowd other than the casual party game player comes out, you leap on it like a bunch of starving wolves, only to reject it for the fact that it's on a console you don't like, or you're too spoiled to play it in anything other than HD.  What does it matter if it's in HD or not?  It's a beautiful looking game in the resolution it was made for.
 
This generation has done nothing but produce a bunch of graphics whores of the worst kind.  They ignore the beauty that exists in a game's art, pay more attention to hardware specs, and don't believe a game is worth a disc-based release if it's in 2D.  Apparently, as consoles become more powerful, the people playing those consoles are becoming progressively dumber.  It's depressing, really.
 
And I say all of this despite owning both a Wii and a PS3.  Why should I ignore a fun game on one console because of some petulent desire to play it on the other?  If a game is engaging and looks gorgeous on less-powerful hardware, why should I ignore it if I have the means to play it?  Why should I announce to the world that I have no interest in the game if the sole reason is that it isn't on an HD console?
 
In other words, why should I make myself look like a hardware-elitist douche?

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Posted by Hailinel

A Quick Look of the just-release hack-and-slasher Muramasa:  The Demon Blade was posted on the site today.  Aside from Ryan's inexplicable reluctance to find out what the B Button does, the video does a good job of showing just how pretty the game looks in motion.  It's an excellent game and one of the best Wii games yet.  From the time I've spent with it, I'd recommend it to anyone with the console.  It's just a shame that any time a game like this comes along, there's always that group of knuckleheads that feels the need to post comments like these:
 
"I would play this if it was on PS3, PS2 or X360
 
No thanks to a Wii version though"
 
"Man, I'm really sold on this game but I don't think I'm ready to buy a Wii just yet... I wish it would come to 360 or PS3."
 
"If this was on XBL Arcade, I'd be willing to pay 15 bucks for it.  But nothing makes we want a Wii."
 
"Can't help thinking that this should have been a downloadable PSN/XBLA game. Too bad."
 
"word, I want this game in HD."
 
I can understand not wanting it if it's not your cup of tea, or if you just don't have the time or money for it, or in general just don't have the interest.  But seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?  The moment a Wii game that would appeal to a crowd other than the casual party game player comes out, you leap on it like a bunch of starving wolves, only to reject it for the fact that it's on a console you don't like, or you're too spoiled to play it in anything other than HD.  What does it matter if it's in HD or not?  It's a beautiful looking game in the resolution it was made for.
 
This generation has done nothing but produce a bunch of graphics whores of the worst kind.  They ignore the beauty that exists in a game's art, pay more attention to hardware specs, and don't believe a game is worth a disc-based release if it's in 2D.  Apparently, as consoles become more powerful, the people playing those consoles are becoming progressively dumber.  It's depressing, really.
 
And I say all of this despite owning both a Wii and a PS3.  Why should I ignore a fun game on one console because of some petulent desire to play it on the other?  If a game is engaging and looks gorgeous on less-powerful hardware, why should I ignore it if I have the means to play it?  Why should I announce to the world that I have no interest in the game if the sole reason is that it isn't on an HD console?
 
In other words, why should I make myself look like a hardware-elitist douche?

Posted by Brunchies

Graphics whores are a pain, They should actually PLAY the game or have experience with that genre before they make themselves look like an idiot. Graphics are not the most important thing in a game, if a game is 15 years old Who cares, if its fun for you play it, if it isn't don't but do not complain about it not being in HD.

Posted by HAMMERCLAW
@Hailinel said:
"A Quick Look of the just-release hack-and-slasher Muramasa:  The Demon Blade was posted on the site today.  Aside from Ryan's inexplicable reluctance to find out what the B Button does, the video does a good job of showing just how pretty the game looks in motion.  It's an excellent game and one of the best Wii games yet.  From the time I've spent with it, I'd recommend it to anyone with the console.  It's just a shame that any time a game like this comes along, there's always that group of knuckleheads that feels the need to post comments like these:
 
"I would play this if it was on PS3, PS2 or X360
 
No thanks to a Wii version though"
 
"Man, I'm really sold on this game but I don't think I'm ready to buy a Wii just yet... I wish it would come to 360 or PS3."
 
"If this was on XBL Arcade, I'd be willing to pay 15 bucks for it.  But nothing makes we want a Wii."
 
"Can't help thinking that this should have been a downloadable PSN/XBLA game. Too bad."  "word, I want this game in HD."  I can understand not wanting it if it's not your cup of tea, or if you just don't have the time or money for it, or in general just don't have the interest.  But seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?  The moment a Wii game that would appeal to a crowd other than the casual party game player comes out, you leap on it like a bunch of starving wolves, only to reject it for the fact that it's on a console you don't like, or you're too spoiled to play it in anything other than HD.  What does it matter if it's in HD or not?  It's a beautiful looking game in the resolution it was made for.  This generation has done nothing but produce a bunch of graphics whores of the worst kind.  They ignore the beauty that exists in a game's art, pay more attention to hardware specs, and don't believe a game is worth a disc-based release if it's in 2D.  Apparently, as consoles become more powerful, the people playing those consoles are becoming progressively dumber.  It's depressing, really.  And I say all of this despite owning both a Wii and a PS3.  Why should I ignore a fun game on one console because of some petulent desire to play it on the other?  If a game is engaging and looks gorgeous on less-powerful hardware, why should I ignore it if I have the means to play it?  Why should I announce to the world that I have no interest in the game if the sole reason is that it isn't on an HD console?  In other words, why should I make myself look like a hardware-elitist douche? "

I'm sorry, honey, but I guess us HD whores would rather get our money's worth out of our expensive hardware, and really aren't interested in beautiful SD graphics on what most of us consider the kiddie console. But that doesn't mean YOU shouldn't have a grand old time on what is, essentially, souped up last gen tech. So you keep on Hackin' and whackin' and smackin', you hear?
Posted by damnboyadvance

I'm not an HD fanboy.I just prefer to watch stuff or play games in HD. Even on cable television, I've seen a big difference between SD and HD.
 
Ok, so maybe I am an HD whore...

Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan

The first four quotes didn't necessarily mean they desired HD fidelity, they probably just wanted it for a console they already have and don't think it's worth paying $300 (Wii + game) for.   I know if it came out for the PS2/360 I'd buy it in an instant, but I don't know if it's worth buying a Wii over. 
Oh, and not many people think SFIV should've been downloadable, but that's a 2D game.  
Don't hate me...
Posted by Claude

Hear, hear. The truth lies with their small penises. Or maybe it's small brains with penises.

Posted by lordofultima

Wii costs money, it's pretty simple. I don't have that kind of money, and one game can't tip the boat and cause me to start dealing drugs to minors. It takes a lot of games. Lots.

Posted by Kohe321

I love HD, but in games I do not care that much. Of course it is a plus, but it won't stop me from playing an excellent game.

Posted by LordAndrew
@HAMMERCLAW said:
" I'm sorry, honey, but I guess us HD whores would rather get our money's worth out of our expensive hardware, and really aren't interested in beautiful SD graphics on what most of us consider the kiddie console. But that doesn't mean YOU shouldn't have a grand old time on what is, essentially, souped up last gen tech. So you keep on Hackin' and whackin' and smackin', you hear? "
You are obviously not one of the people who want this game on the Xbox 360 / PlayStation 3. From the sound of it, you want this piece of shit nowhere near your precious system. If a game is good, it's good regardless of the system it's on. If it's not, it's not. Being on the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 wouldn't change that. Being on the PlayStation Network or Xbox Live Marketplace wouldn't change that either.
 
People claim the Wii doesn't have good games. But when they see a game they think looks good, they regret the fact that it's on the Wii and not some other system. They go on to ignore the game and continue to make claims that the system doesn't have any good games.
Posted by Hailinel
@LordAndrew: Well put.  It's amazing how long some people have tried to keep the "Wii has no good games" argument going.
Posted by Hailinel
@lordofultima: And that's an argument I have no problem with.  Not everyone can afford to own multiple game consoles.  What burns me are those that own only one console and then simultaneously denigrate consoles they deem lesser while expressing a desire to play the rival console's games on their preferred hardware.
Posted by oldschool

I have a 360 and a HD plasma television. I also have a Wii.  My 360 collection is about 25 games and the Wii 60.  I do not find anything about the 360 graphics that make me want to play it more.  In fact, I find some games simply horrible to look at - GTA IV.  Even if they do look pretty in HD, my eyes grow weary after my brain has been dulled by a bland game.  The only games I have found that look pretty and play well have Eternal Sonata and Infinite Undiscovery. 
 
In short, I could care less about HD and in fact, because I like the Wii controller, I would much rather a game I like (Shin Megami) would be made exclusively as a Wii game most of the time.  The exception for my tastes are car racing games - a game like Forza is great on the 360. 
 
Even if someone wishes a game would come to the console they own, you don't see the Wii owners whine every time a new games doesn't come to the their console.   That little emo habit is confined to the HD brigade.  Even if a game is a PS3 exclusive, and I don't own one, I just accept it and remember that I will get a PS3 later in the cycle,when it is much cheaper, and build up a good collection, cheap, from the older library (just as I did with the PS2).  HD people can just do the same.  A more gracious and mature comment from them would be, "eventually when I get around to owning a Wii, I will get that game".

Posted by Claude
@oldschool said:
" I have a 360 and a HD plasma television. I also have a Wii.  My 360 collection is about 25 games and the Wii 60.  I do not find anything about the 360 graphics that make me want to play it more.  In fact, I find some games simply horrible to look at - GTA IV.  Even if they do look pretty in HD, my eyes grow weary after my brain has been dulled by a bland game.  The only games I have found that look pretty and play well have Eternal Sonata and Infinite Undiscovery.  In short, I could care less about HD and in fact, because I like the Wii controller, I would much rather a game I like (Shin Megami) would be made exclusively as a Wii game most of the time.  The exception for my tastes are car racing games - a game like Forza is great on the 360.  Even if someone wishes a game would come to the console they own, you don't see the Wii owners whine every time a new games doesn't come to the their console.   That little emo habit is confined to the HD brigade.  Even if a game is a PS3 exclusive, and I don't own one, I just accept it and remember that I will get a PS3 later in the cycle,when it is much cheaper, and build up a good collection, cheap, from the older library (just as I did with the PS2).  HD people can just do the same.  A more gracious and mature comment from them would be, "eventually when I get around to owning a Wii, I will get that game". "
Have I told you I love you lately? If I haven't, I love you.
Posted by oldschool
@Claude said:
" @oldschool said:
" I have a 360 and a HD plasma television. I also have a Wii.  My 360 collection is about 25 games and the Wii 60.  I do not find anything about the 360 graphics that make me want to play it more.  In fact, I find some games simply horrible to look at - GTA IV.  Even if they do look pretty in HD, my eyes grow weary after my brain has been dulled by a bland game.  The only games I have found that look pretty and play well have Eternal Sonata and Infinite Undiscovery.  In short, I could care less about HD and in fact, because I like the Wii controller, I would much rather a game I like (Shin Megami) would be made exclusively as a Wii game most of the time.  The exception for my tastes are car racing games - a game like Forza is great on the 360.  Even if someone wishes a game would come to the console they own, you don't see the Wii owners whine every time a new games doesn't come to the their console.   That little emo habit is confined to the HD brigade.  Even if a game is a PS3 exclusive, and I don't own one, I just accept it and remember that I will get a PS3 later in the cycle,when it is much cheaper, and build up a good collection, cheap, from the older library (just as I did with the PS2).  HD people can just do the same.  A more gracious and mature comment from them would be, "eventually when I get around to owning a Wii, I will get that game". "
Have I told you I love you lately? If I haven't, I love you. "
Nothing wrong with a little middle aged bromance  ^-^ 
 
I can only imagine the mental image of this is disturbing the young uns in a way that will invade their dreams in a bad way  xD 
 
Oh, and I love you too Claude.
Posted by TeflonBilly
@HAMMERCLAW said:
I'm sorry, honey, but I guess us HD whores would rather get our money's worth out of our expensive hardware, and really aren't interested in beautiful SD graphics on what most of us consider the kiddie console. But that doesn't mean YOU shouldn't have a grand old time on what is, essentially, souped up last gen tech. So you keep on Hackin' and whackin' and smackin', you hear? "
 
 

You ignoramus, do you seriously discount a game's look just cause it isn't in 1080p?
So yeah, Shadow Of The Collosuss, Okami and this game are completely unplayable and hurts your bleary eyes?
As a guy who owns all three machines, I still find Super Mario Galaxy to be one of the most beautiful looking games out there.  
Edited by AndrewB

I'll agree, but I'll add that the Wii is pretty matter-of-factly a kid/non-gamer console, and it *is* hard for me to take many of its games seriously because of it. Especially since there have only ever been a handful of non-Wii Sports games I've bought for it, and feel let down by most of them (the biggest example being Twilight Princess, which I have yet to finish, and have no drive to attempt, either). I kind of assume the worst of any game I hear about coming to the Wii unless I see otherwise; and I don't think I'm wrong in that regard, either. The simple fact is that most of the games being released for it just aren't for me. I've given it a shot, I still own it, and it works great as a party machine, but I've accepted that the console just isn't for me, and the only reason I keep it around is for the few times I have family over and for Gamecube backwards compatibility.
 
I'm not an "HD fanboy," I just don't see games that pique my personal interests coming to the Wii very often. Of course, I'm also not a douche about it, either. I don't go forcing my personal likes and opinions on others, because I maintain that I am not a "fan" of any particular console. I'm only swayed by the games. I still find it annoying how even seemingly good Wii games *are* treated with a tone of ire from critics and game fans, alike.

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Posted by natetodamax
@Hailinel said: 
"I would play this if it was on PS3, PS2 or X360
 
No thanks to a Wii version though"
 
"Man, I'm really sold on this game but I don't think I'm ready to buy a Wii just yet... I wish it would come to 360 or PS3."
 
"If this was on XBL Arcade, I'd be willing to pay 15 bucks for it.  But nothing makes we want a Wii."
How are these examples related to HD?
Posted by Hailinel
@natetodamax: They were comments that related to HD-capable consoles.  Borderline, yes, but I included them for their demonstration of ignorance.
Posted by natetodamax
@Hailinel: How are they being ignorant? Looks to me like those people just weren't willing to pay for a Wii to play one game, and would rather keep their current consoles.
Posted by Diamond

There's a few factors to consider.
 
A). People that only have system X but not a Wii
B). Those who said it should be a XBLA/PSN game or such might have wanted the game at a lower price point
C). People that prefer system X over Wii for non-graphics reasons, such as gamepad, achievements, or other features
D). Graphics whores (not an entirely negative thing, they might just have wished the game was that much prettier)
E). Fanboys
 
If someone says they just aren't ready to get a Wii yet, that doesn't make him a knucklehead and you don't have the right to call him any other names.
 
Finally, why do you care if people don't buy Muramasa?  There's plenty of games I wish people were buying but I don't make ranting threads about it.
 
@oldschool said:

Even if someone wishes a game would come to the console they own, you don't see the Wii owners whine every time a new games doesn't come to the their console.   That little emo habit is confined to the HD brigade.  Even if a game is a PS3 exclusive, and I don't own one, I just accept it and remember that I will get a PS3 later in the cycle,when it is much cheaper, and build up a good collection, cheap, from the older library (just as I did with the PS2).  HD people can just do the same.  A more gracious and mature comment from them would be, "eventually when I get around to owning a Wii, I will get that game".
That's not true.  There's nothing about 360/PS3 gamers that's different from Wii gamers.  I see Wii gamers do the same thing, there just aren't as many of them here on GB.  I won't name names, but I think we all might know of few of them.
Posted by Hailinel
@natetodamax: Because they carry the air of statements such as "Man, I'd totally buy that game if it wasn't a Wii game."
Posted by Claude
@natetodamax said:
" @Hailinel: How are they being ignorant? Looks to me like those people just weren't willing to pay for a Wii to play one game, and would rather keep their current consoles. "
It's the fact they have to be immature about the Wii. It's a strange dichotomy going on, the Wii is an immature system to them and so they cry like little babies about how it's not on their system of choice. Some people also don't like the controller. They feel alienated, much like PC FPS fans playing a FPS on a console.
Posted by oldschool
@natetodamax said:
" @Hailinel: How are they being ignorant? Looks to me like those people just weren't willing to pay for a Wii to play one game, and would rather keep their current consoles. "
They don't have to get rid of their console though.  Plus, the reality is, if someone buys a console for one game (and who does that), they will buy quite a few games over time, both older and yet to come.
Posted by Hailinel
@Diamond: The topic isn't about Muramasa itself.  It was born out of comments made on the Quick Look video for that game.  If people want to make posts stating "No, I'm not buying this game," then some level of context would be nice.  Saying something like "lol i want this on 360 lol" does not provide that context.  If you don't want to be considered a fanboy or a jerk, then state your reasoning when you make such comments.
Posted by FluxWaveZ

I've been playing Half-Life lately (original one) and I've been having a blast.  Playing through games like Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid and even Persona 3 and 4 has made me realize that I really don't give a shit about the graphics in a game.  I don't even have an HD TV.  But in the current generation consoles, I don't expect, or want, to see a game that looks like it should be on the NES unless it has a unique gameplay mechanic that lends itself well to that.  The thing is, when you compare the Wii to the other current generation consoles, the graphics do look like crap and there's no doubting that.  And sadly, many care about that because the graphics of a game is what you immediately see so a lot can gauge a game's quality to how it looks graphically.  That's why I think more games should go stylized and that's why I absolutely love cel-shaded graphics (not those with the huge outlines ala Viewtiful Joe, though).

Posted by Red

Muramasa and Okami are probably the prettiest games ever. That being said, Muramasa has no real point in being on the Wii. Like most good Wii games, it would be much better with a standard controller. I don't have a Wii anymore, so I won't buy Muramasa, but yes, if it were on another console, I'd totally buy Muramasa.

Edited by HitNRun

I'd say you guys are just Wii-sensitive.
 
The Greater Fanboy War (360 vs PS3) has people saying things like this all the time. Stuff like "too bad you have to install it for 20 minutes on your $599 USD George Foreman Grill with crappy online" or "I'd play Halo if I didn't have to give money to M$ and pay for online".
 
The "No HD" tag just happens to be the oversimplified put-down applied by both of those consoles' fanboys to the Wii. I'd rather have HD than SD, but I'd sure as shit would rather have Muramasa than either of those two generic choices. If Nintendo had been cutting prices all this time, I might pick a Wii up specfiically FOR Muramasa, which would certainly be an odd feeling given how many consoles I bought for Mario and Zelda as a kid.

Posted by Kiemoe

You shouldn't really take it like that, people are saying that the game looks pretty, and want it to display in high def because it looks so good. It's more of a compliment than anything else.

Posted by oldschool
@AndrewB said:
" I'll agree, but I'll add that the Wii is pretty matter-of-factly a kid/non-gamer console, and it *is* hard for me to take many of its games seriously because of it. Especially since there have only ever been a handful of non-Wii Sports games I've bought for it, and feel let down by most of them (the biggest example being Twilight Princess, which I have yet to finish, and have no drive to attempt, either). I kind of assume the worst of any game I hear about coming to the Wii unless I see otherwise; and I don't think I'm wrong in that regard, either. The simple fact is that most of the games being released for it just aren't for me. I've given it a shot, I still own it, and it works great as a party machine, but I've accepted that the console just isn't for me, and the only reason I keep it around is for the few times I have family over and for Gamecube backwards compatibility.  I'm not an "HD fanboy," I just don't see games that pique my personal interests coming to the Wii very often. Of course, I'm also not a douche about it, either. I don't go forcing my personal likes and opinions on others, because I maintain that I am not a "fan" of any particular console. I'm only swayed by the games. I still find it annoying how even seemingly good Wii games *are* treated with a tone of ire from critics and game fans, alike. "
Well put.
Posted by Lilarcor

It's seriously impossible for Nintendo to please some of these people. People constantly whine that "the Wii has no games!" But if somebody actually goes through the effort to make a good, exclusive Wii game then the same people whine "why is this only on Wii? It should be on the HD platforms!" The inherent contradiction of these two complaints seems to elude them.

Posted by Hailinel
@Tarsier: Thank you for that enlightening comment.  You have done nothing to defend your position.
Edited by Hamst3r
@Hailinel said:

What does it matter if it's in HD or not?  It's a beautiful looking game in the resolution it was made for.  This generation has done nothing but produce a bunch of graphics whores of the worst kind.  They ignore the beauty that exists in a game's art"

I think you're overlooking that perhaps these people fully appreciate the game's art and how beautiful it is and they would simply like to be able to see it better in a higher fidelity. You think they're ignoring the art when in fact they're fully in love with the art. :)
 
What I find more troublesome than the group of people becoming increasingly interested in higher quality stuff is the other group of people that's becoming increasingly more acceptant of lower quality stuff. I'm not talking about the Wii either, it's not lower than anything before it. I'm also not just talking about video games. I'm talking about the people who PREFER to watch a feature length film on their iPod Nano with the cheap earbuds that come with the iPod.
 
There are plenty of other examples, but I'm sure you get what I'm talking about. It's the increasing acceptance of poor quality and not desiring or demanding better. Of course, you'll probably just reply, "why do you care about what they do or like it's none of your business." - and you're right. I just hope it never gets to the point that companies simply don't make higher quality versions of things because no one cares anymore.
 
I'm not here to argue against what you said, as there are indeed people totally stuck on the term HD, even when they have no idea what that really means or if that's what they're getting. Just providing an alternate perspective. That's all. :)
Posted by Grim_Fandango

I still play the original Half-Life, so I can't be a HD-gamer :), I also own a standard definition, further backing up that claim. 
 
I've never been the biggest fan of the wii, just because i'd rather buy it for a big group of friends instead of just one person, it's a party machine, not singleplayer, with the exception for a couple games out there.

Posted by Fallen189

Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal.

Posted by Hailinel
@Fallen189 said:
" Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal. "
And I don't care, because I'm not a pirate.
Posted by Hailinel
@Grim_Fandango said:
" I still play the original Half-Life, so I can't be a HD-gamer :), I also own a standard definition, further backing up that claim.   I've never been the biggest fan of the wii, just because i'd rather buy it for a big group of friends instead of just one person, it's a party machine, not singleplayer, with the exception for a couple games out there. "
Then you'd probably be surprised by the number of quality single-player games that there are.  Not to go into a huge list, but some of my favorite single-player games on the system include titles No More Heroes, Trauma Center:  Second Opinion, Fire Emblem:  Radiant Dawn, Punch-Out!!, Wario Land:  Smooth Moves, and MadWorld.  There's a lot of diversity in there.
Posted by Fallen189
@Hailinel said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal. "
And I don't care, because I'm not a pirate. "
But it doesn't detriment from the fact I am right. And you're only a pirate if you don't own it.
 
Also, everyone's a pirate.
Posted by Hailinel
@Fallen189 said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal. "
And I don't care, because I'm not a pirate. "
But it doesn't detriment from the fact I am right. And you're only a pirate if you don't own it.  Also, everyone's a pirate. "
Really now?  And what proof do you have of that?
Posted by Famov

 
I am seriously considering this game. I am not often all that open to uber Japanese weirdness, but I am willing to put up with voluptuous kitsune women if the game delivers on its promises. 
 
On topic, those who do blow off a game like this (just because its on Wii) are only doing themselves the disservice. I am not bothered much by this.

I am more bothered by the complaints by those who claim that Nintendo has abandoned the 'hardcore'. Really? Well, maybe they abandoned the six people who bought a Gamecube, but let's be reasonable here: So called hardcore gamers haven't taken Nintendo seriously since long before the Wii launch in 2006. Certainly I am not the only one of us to remember that far back?
 
But in any case, as one of those six Gamecube owners I can say that I have not been abandoned.

Posted by Fallen189
@Hailinel said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal. "
And I don't care, because I'm not a pirate. "
But it doesn't detriment from the fact I am right. And you're only a pirate if you don't own it.  Also, everyone's a pirate. "
Really now?  And what proof do you have of that? "
You know what, fuck it.
 
It's impossible to try and talk about this with people like you, who think that piracy is "DOWNLOADING THE LATEST GAMES" .
 
PS: If you have ever listened to a song on youtube or on a friends phone, that's piracy
Posted by MrGetBonus

For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics.

Posted by Whisperkill

I like some wii games, but seriously I squint now whenever I watch something not in HD, its like "Why is it all fuzzy?!"
Posted by Claude
@Whisperkill said:
" I like some wii games, but seriously I squint now whenever I watch something not in HD, its like "Why is it all fuzzy?!" "
That's funny, I had to squint to read HD on a SD set with my Xbox 360. We have a lot in common. Maybe when I'm finally able to go HD, I'll be on your side. You know, there's probably a lot of truth in that.
Posted by Illmatic

From someone whose only system is an HD system, I have to say I'm part of a select few who while owning an HDTV preferst to play their system on their SDTV. Sure, the game may look great on an HD television but at the same time the only moment I ever find myself having to game in HD is if the text is annoyingly tiny. I have no problem with lower resolution games. I still play SNES, I come back on the Gamecube catalog to play titles I missed back when I depended on allowance and birthdays to get new games, and the Wii's lesser graphical capabilities do not detract at all from my desire to buy the system. Would it look better in HD? Sure, but that doesn't mean I'll whine about it when it comes out. 
 
I read a comment earlier in which someone actually worried over people's acceptance of an inferior product with the introduction of newer technology. Is that really more troubling than the shunning of old technology? Why worry over someone's willingness to watch a movie on a smaller screen if that comes with the ability to bring said movie onto a plane or on a car ride? And do we really think people prefer to hear a movie through cheap headphones if they could afford $300 headsets? Of course not. If there's an opportunity to raise the quality of a medium and it's in their budget then we'd all be carrying these expensive headsets with portable DVD players with screens the size of our local theater projection. But some people just want to keep it simple and cheap (money wise). So the Wii ends up becoming the high seller because Nintendo understands it isn't all about the horsepower and whose video game library has the most "tripe A" titles. 
 
Muramasa's a beautiful game in its art direction, many would agree. However, for some, that's not what they're looking for and we can't blame them. The gloss of a highly detailed world in HD has much more draw amongst the "hardcore" than a stylized world. We see it time and time again no matter how often we claim to love the different and the quirky so the reaction to Muramasa and the Wii in general shouldn't come as a surprise.

Posted by Hailinel
@Fallen189 said:
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" Murumasa emulates on the PC and looks phenomenal. "
And I don't care, because I'm not a pirate. "
But it doesn't detriment from the fact I am right. And you're only a pirate if you don't own it.  Also, everyone's a pirate. "
Really now?  And what proof do you have of that? "
You know what, fuck it.  It's impossible to try and talk about this with people like you, who think that piracy is "DOWNLOADING THE LATEST GAMES" .  PS: If you have ever listened to a song on youtube or on a friends phone, that's piracy "
When you download games illicitly, that is piracy.
Posted by Hailinel
@MrGetBonus said:
" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "
So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively?
Posted by CitizenKane

I prefer everything in 1080p True  HD.  Even real life.

Posted by ajamafalous

You seem to enjoy skewing comments into your favor.

Posted by Hailinel
@ajamafalous: Well, I'm certainly not misquoting anyone.
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