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I'd say absolutely. In my opinion it's the best show on TV (yep, equalling Breaking Bad) and it's a shame that it doesn't get the recognition and buzz it deserves.

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The Michael J Fox Show might be decent. Maybe.

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On a 2 year contract as well. Should be interesting to see how Ferrari handle Kimi and Alonso in the same team. Roll on 2014!

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That's Massa out of Ferrari next year.Either Kimi or the Hulk will probably take his place.

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During the gunfight we see Jesse reach for the car handle, I'm betting he's made a break for it and is running the fuck away. I think Gomie's gonna die, Hank's gonna be injured but Walt pleads with the Nazis to let him live... somehow. Bizarrely, I think Hank will live BECAUSE of the phone call he made to Marie. That kind of thing is such a cliche in TV/Film that I'm sure Gilligan put it in there as a red herring to fuck with the audience. Gilligan is smart and so is this show in that it subverts expectations, I think he and the writers will deliver.

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It's too bad the frontrunner race is so boring what with Vettel powering away with Alonso/Hamilton/Kimi/Webber all trailing behind. At least we have some great midfield battles which are brilliant to watch, but goddamn I can't wait for 2014.

Watch as Vettel dominates then too.

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Come on, let it be Kamui or Heikki :(

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@jedge said:

@lugaloco: Awesome reply, thanks Duder!

One thing I still can't accept though - how does he come to the conclusion that Gus couldn't possibly have poisoned Brock? If we assume that the conversation took place where Brock says he didn't eat any weird berries, that still doesn't rule out Gus as a culprit if I'm assuming Jesse's perspective rather than my perspective as a viewer (because of course we know that Walt is the culprit)?

Well we have to remember that Gus DOESN'T actually mess with kids, it was those 2 dealers that killed Jesse's girlfriend's brother and caused Gus to broker a meeting between them and Jesse. I'm pretty sure Gus wouldn't have given the order to kill the kid. Also, Gus is presented as someone who is often 5 moves ahead of everyone else on multiple occasions, I doubt his plan to get rid of Walt would be for Jesse to try and kill Walt and hence put Jesse into a position where he could be persuaded not to due to the big Jesse/Walt bond. Gus was smarter than that. He easily could've discredited Walt in some other way that wouldn't have the possibility of his other star meth cook turn on him.

Edit: Aaron Paul also confirmed on the insider podcast (I think it was that podcast at least) that Jesse always held a lingering suspicion that Walt poisoned Brock but it only came to the forefront with possible proof this episode. It all checks out.

Christ, can you imagine any other show trying to do this and pulling it off like BB did? Imagine Dexter trying it, doesn't even bear thinking about how much they'd fuck it up.

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@jedge said:

So can anyone explain Jesse's logic? Even with the relational memory theory I just can't reconcile Jesse's conclusion with the evidence that he has.

As far as I can work out his thought process is this:

1. Brock was poisoned with lily of the valley (which I swear he knows because the doctors told him eventually?)

2. Walt told Saul and Huell to lift the ricin cigarette from Jesse

Conclusion - Walt poisoned Brock, even though he knows that Brock was poisoned with lily of the valley and not ricin?

I could well have forgotten an important detail in all of this so please bear with me!

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Jesse suspected it was Walt and the ricin from the moment he found out Brock's symptoms. Turns out Jesse was right, but Walt managed to convince him otherwise through his genius Heisenberg manipulation ("That's what Gus WANTS you to think!" "Who do you know is ok with using kids?" "I have a family, children, how can you say that of me?"). However when Jesse finds out it was Lily of the Valley, he finds out that Gus couldn't possibly have poisoned Brock. I'm pretty sure Jesse/his mother would have talked to Brock at some point saying "Hey kid, did you eat any weird berries or anything like that?". "No", would've been Brock's reply. Jesse would then be wondering why that happened and I bet he always had at least some lingering suspicion that Walt poisoned Brock because it makes the most sense. Walt needed Gus to die to save his own life. how could Walt have Gus killed? By turning Jesse against Gus. Jesse however can't prove how Walt did it and so lets it go, thinking he's just acting crazy and Brock must've ate something bad.

Now we move onto the current episode. We know that Jesse is DEEPLY suspicious of Walt due to Mike's disappearance. Jesse is tired of Walt's manipulative bullshit. So when Jesse realises his dope has been lifted by Huell, he realises that Huell just as easily could've taken the cigarettes with the ricin and he was right all along. He KNOWS Huell took his dope because no one else possibly could have. Bear in mind now, Jesse is in deep emotional distress at this point. He's acting wild and clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore. So to make sure his suspicions are confirmed he bursts into Saul's office and demands a confession at gunpoint, which Saul gives him. Jesse now 100% knows it was Walt that poisoned Brock.

Also bear in mind that Jesse is a very smart individual and it's perfectly possible for him to connect all the dots, especially given this much circumstantial evidence against Walt.

Edit: Just to reiterate, he got the confession from Saul. You can also play up the angle that Jesse was just acting irrational and thought he was right all along leading him to beat the shit out of Saul. The fact that Saul told Jesse the truth cements everything. That's what really matters. If Saul hadn't cracked then Walt had a slim possibility of convincing Jesse again, but not now.

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I'd say go chronologically but with The White Stripes you can't really go wrong. They are one of the very few bands to have never released a bad album, at least that's my view.

So go chronologically, get a feel for them. Elephant is widely considered to be their "best" album but I personally prefer Get Behind Me Satan. It's far more bluesy and has some of the most touching songs they have ever produced. You should also REALLY, REALLY, REALLY get their live album Under Great White Northern Lights and save it until you've listened to all their studio stuff. The album covers their 2007 tour of Canada which was the first time they had ever toured that country. It is, in all honesty, one of the best live albums I've ever listened to. You should really get the version with the DVD documentary too, it's beyond fantastic and shows the deep connection between Jack and Meg in a very emotional way.

Then you can move on to Jack White's Blunderbuss album if you want more, it's also an amazing album.

I fucking love The White Stripes.

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