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#3 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@rockyraccoon37 said:

@mrsignerman44 said:

@demoskinos said:

Oh man finally read Polygons review. Pretty entertaining stuff there. Took good old Arthur no longer than a paragraph to start sharpening the sexism pitchfork.

It would be a gross oversight for any reviewer not to mention it, and in fact every review I've read has mentioned it.

Not really, most european reviewers are doing a fine job glossing over it or not mentioning it at all since it's, you know, an optional goofy minigame that should hold little to no bearing on the overall product. What's odd is that they're giving it better scores, It's almost as if the game is being reviewed through this hateful lens where everything it does wrong is multiplied 10 times and immediately unforgivable.

Yes, websites like IGN Italia and Eurogamer Germany, where gamers go to know!

Way to go disregarding all of Europe, of course the only opinions that matter to "gamers"(lol) are from 'murica. I also like how you use Eurogamer as a source sentences later. I thought their opinion didn't count though?

@rockyraccoon37 said:

What exactly do you mean by "the game is being reviewed through this hateful lens where everything it does wrong is multiplied 10 times and immediately unforgivable."

That statement makes no sense to me at all.

Hopefully you'll understand what I'm talking about in the upcoming few paragraphs but I wouldn't count on it since you're doing it right now.

@rockyraccoon37

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In any case, literally every negative review that I've read for the game (Polygon, Game Informer, IGN, and Eurogamer) touch on the sexism but spend the majority of the written review discussing how the design of the game falls short of expectations.

The problem is that they put some focus on discussing a goof that fell flat in the first place, it really holds little to no bearing on the overall game but since it offended them, they're already looking to be spiteful. Not only that, but with todays "gaming journalism" feeling shocked by a sexualized aspect of a game and trying hard to be above it gets you revenue, but that's besides the point.

The people who gave it positive reviews weren't even bothered by it, they didn't care and therefore the gameplay was enjoyable because they weren't trying desperately to pick it apart. Isn't it odd that many of the technical shortcomings of recent games have been forgiven because the reviewer was already having a great time(skyrim, splinter cell blacklist, saints row IV) but when there's this veil of JUSTICE behind it, the reviewer is looking at the product through a "hateful lens" they purposefully look for flaws because they already hate the product. Understand now?

@rockyraccoon37 said:

EUROGAMER

  • "Killer is Dead suffers from a near-total lack of purpose or theme which leaves it as little more than a jumble of random imagery and camp dialogue with a few painfully clumsy winks at the camera to excuse it away."
  • "Mondo is a paper-thin and slightly dour character - he certainly has none of Travis Touchdown's impish charisma - and he can't sustain the attention."
  • "Shooting - performed over the shoulder - is less refined and not particularly well integrated, but it works well enough"
  • "this is a solid swordfighting action game; generic, not particularly sophisticated, but presented with a gratifying, rhythmic flair."

ON THAT SEXISM: "It's sexist, it's grubby, it's voyeuristic and objectifying, and it's also a sad, lopsided and profoundly unsexy depiction of romantic interaction. It's not even funny - and the basic and boring gameplay, which mostly consists of waiting, certainly does nothing to redeem it."

Total number of words spent on dat sexism: 403

Total number of words in review: 1291

Okay, first of all are you seriously counting the words that talk about sexism? What a ridiculous argument and waste of time (this is a waste of time to but fuck it.) it doesn't matter how many words discuss a fucking mini-game, the

idea

that the mini-game offended them is already there when they sat down to write the fucking thing. They already have a skewed opinion, it doesn't matter if they gloss over it or talk about it for the whole review, their overall idea of "I was offended and therefore didn't have a good time" is already implanted, they didn't know it was a parody and hated the game by that point already.

Anyway, from what you've quoted(which is out of context by the way) it doesn't sound like a 5/10 game, since when do the personal ethics of the reviewer bring the score down considerably? If you hate a characters motivations in a film doesn't it mean the writers did a good job? Well, in videogames since it's interactive everything is the complete opposite and if you didn't like something in it, everything from the gameplay to the writing is now awful, that is completely against art. Generic yet servicable games get higher scores than that all the time, but they still felt the need to backpedal, going from calling aspects of the game "solid and full of flair" to then calling the overall product "gross and disgusting". Saying that you dont like a product because you didn't want the protagonist to be unlikeable is mental, since when have all protagonists been lawful good?

I'm not going to adress all of the other boring garbage that you spat out since it's just out of context quotes and the fact that you actually counted the sexism related words and compared them to the rest of the review is completely mental in my opinion. The problem with people like you is that you deal in extremes, I'm not saying the game is perfect but that doesn't mean that it's awful. But in your world there are only two opinions "OH GAWD I'M VOMITING FROM MUH EYES SHUT IT DOWN" and "OMG THIS IS SOOOO FUCKING GOOD". No one is defending the Gigolo mini-game, from what I've heard it's actually repetitive and boring, but it's optional and most sensible people disregarded it entirely, focusing on the actual gameplay first.

I'll actually be giving it a chance and checking it out for myself, it could be a shit game, it could be an awesome game. The point is that I'll be forming my own opinion and wont condemn it because someone told me it was sexist. It's really sad how you don't know that the sites you love so much are exploiting you for site traffic and revenue, they want attention and you're giving it right to them.

As someone already stated, I'm cannot wait until the trend of douchey tumblr social just warriors talking about videogames is over. You should know that you, yes youare part of the problem, you've fucked up this site and turned many "discussions" into a shitfest through a thin veil of "I'm being righteous and defending women" you're not. You're just feeding your own ego and bringing everyone down in the process, in other words you're that guy.

#4 Posted by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@mrsignerman44 said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@darthorange said:

@mariachimacabre said:

Well that's....stupid.


Well I found it entertaining! What would you have rather had Nintendo of America work on instead?

Something original.

Woah! Be careful not to cut anyone with those edges!

Calm down there, dude. Darth, Jason and I are the closest of internet friends and I was making a joke. But seriously, Nintendo is stagnant as shit on the IP side. Denying that is silly. I love them but seriously...come on.

While I'm definitely not excited for Super Luigi U, I thought the video was fun. Sorry man, I just don't like people shitting on a video saying it's uninspired when it's obviously just made for laughs.

#5 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@darthorange said:

@mariachimacabre said:

Well that's....stupid.


Well I found it entertaining! What would you have rather had Nintendo of America work on instead?

Something original.

Woah! Be careful not to cut anyone with those edges!

#6 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@falserelic said:

@maskedarcstrike said:

Called it that this game was gonna get shat on. As for all the sexist stuff I mean cmon this is nothing new with Suda, he's always had weird stuff in his games.

Most of the stuff that's argued for being "sexist" in the game actually sounds tamer than what he put in Shadows of the Damned. Hell remember walking on a giant topless Paula in Shadows?

The content that people are arguing over in Killer doesn't even seem mean spirited. It's just the main character in a bar trying to pick up chicks. Like that never happens in real life!! It's just meant for jokes. And hell I thought Deadpool went a little too far with one of its jokes.

All this sexist talk lately has been getting on my nerves. It's like all the sudden everyone has to stickup for women, just makes me sick sometimes.

Yeah, because echoing "OMG this is so gross" to a goof in a video game instead of focusing on actual women's issues is sticking up for women. It's really the false sense of justice that's making me sick here.

#7 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@rockyraccoon37 said:

Yeah he mentions it one paragraph in, then spends the next 1000 words or so detailing the game and its design failings before spending another 300 words discussing the egregious sexism in detail.

The problem is that he spends 300 words discussing what is essentially a joke that he didn't agree with. That shouldn't really be a big part of the review.

@rockyraccoon37 said:

@demoskinos said:

Oh man finally read Polygons review. Pretty entertaining stuff there. Took good old Arthur no longer than a paragraph to start sharpening the sexism pitchfork.

It would be a gross oversight for any reviewer not to mention it, and in fact every review I've read has mentioned it.

Not really, most european reviewers are doing a fine job glossing over it or not mentioning it at all since it's, you know, an optional goofy minigame that should hold little to no bearing on the overall product. What's odd is that they're giving it better scores, It's almost as if the game is being reviewed through this hateful lens where everything it does wrong is multiplied 10 times and immediately unforgivable.

#8 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

@klei said:

@mrsignerman44 said:

It sounds like this reviewer was trying desperately to be above the game.

I wasn't really interested but now I'm going to give it a chance.

Also, here's a better review

How is it a better review? A better score, you mean?

No, it doesn't sit there lambasting the entire game before discussing the mechanics at work. It also makes a good point about what the hell is going on with this game instead of condeming it as a horrible crime to women.

There's cleary something going on here if it's getting awful scores from sites that are focusing too hard on the optional and apparently played for laughs Gigolo mode.

#9 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

It sounds like this reviewer was trying desperately to be above the game.

I wasn't really interested but now I'm going to give it a chance after watching this better review that doesn't bash it out of the gate.

#10 Edited by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

Yes I do, this site especially won't fix their annoying ads so you can all go fuck yourselves.