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#1 Posted by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

@mtcantor said:

@spaceinsomniac said:

If you laughed, or even smirked a bit, I forgive you. Just know that there are worse things to laugh about than rape, and it seems to be pretty easy to get an entire female audience absolutely roaring with laughter at the thought of them.

[I'm going to talk about someone mutilating your genitalia]

Don't you understand though? This is funny because he isn't mocking someone who is (in reality) a powerless victim. He is flipping it on his head. It's irony.

I don't understand, no. "He isn't mocking someone who is a powerless victim?" What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the men that guy raped WANTED to be raped, or that they were not powerless in that situation? I don't want to put words in your mouth, so please explain what you mean here.

I would assume that the rapist was either much larger than them, or had a gun to their head. Either way, I think "powerless victim" seems to be right terminology.

I think it can be kind of complicated, but it all comes down to the idea of "When does comedy stop being positive, and start being just mean?"

Like, there is clearly a difference between comedy and cruel mocking. Maybe it's intent, but some would argue that's difficult, if not impossible, to really judge. The same words mean different things to different people, regardless of what the person speaking them was thinking at the time.

So, there's this old idea in comedy that you should target your jokes at the powerful and not the powerless. So, mocking someone who would traditionally be a rape victim is cruel. Mocking someone who would not traditionally be a rape victim is at least funnier. Whether or not it is actually funny depends a lot on who's listening and whatever baggage they have brought to the table.

But whatever, I'm done talking about this particular area of this issue. This is going nowhere good.

#2 Edited by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago
#3 Posted by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

If you laughed, or even smirked a bit, I forgive you. Just know that there are worse things to laugh about than rape, and it seems to be pretty easy to get an entire female audience absolutely roaring with laughter at the thought of them.

[I'm going to talk about someone mutilating your genitalia]

Don't you understand though? This is funny because he isn't mocking someone who is (in reality) a powerless victim. He is flipping it on his head. It's irony.

#4 Posted by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

@sergio said:

@mtcantor said:

There's an old rule in comedy that it should never be aimed at the powerless, because then it becomes cruel and hurtful.

Actually, I think in comedy, nothing is off limits, but some things are likely to get you in some trouble. Daniel Tosh, who I already find not funny for other reasons, got in trouble for rape jokes last year. Some comedians defended him.

Oh sure, nothing is off limits. Doesn't mean some jokes don't make you a a total asshole though.

By all means, I respect your rights to make all the rape jokes you want, I just reserve my own rights to judge you harshly for doing so.

#5 Edited by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

Says the guy who got modded for saying "choke on a dick."

#6 Edited by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

Is it really all that hard to just not be a jerk?

#7 Posted by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

Fear of driving, or fear while driving is actually really common for folks with anxiety disorders. Used to happen to me.

If you don't have anxiety issues in general, then its just a matter of driving more. Just drive defensively and be safe, and you will be fine.

#8 Edited by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

@pitskits said:

@sweeneytodd said:

sure... why NOT make fun of rape victims? Could you include a little context?

edit: never mind, a quick perusal of your recent posts shows you're not worth anyone's attention.

Why is it ok to satire everyone but not rape victims?

(I'm trying to create a point here, I'm not promoting such a thing and I'm not for it).

There's an old rule in comedy that it should never be aimed at the powerless, because then it becomes cruel and hurtful.

#9 Posted by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

Both.

#10 Edited by mtcantor (868 posts) - 2 months, 7 days ago

Just because this is the internet, you do not have a total license to be an asshole.

Have some sense of manners and decorum, and you won't run into problems like this.

Part of the reason I love Giant Bomb is that they suspend/ban/mod people who say stupid things like "choke on a dick."

Use your keyboard!

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