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I've Started Playing Monster Hunter Tri

It took quite a few tries, but I've finally gotten into the behemoth that is Monster Hunter. This Japanese phenomena has never done particularly well in the western market, but of course everyone knows that and most people know exactly why. Similarly to the "Souls" games, Monster Hunter requires the player to unearth a lot of information about the game on their own. I found however, that Monster Hunter was considerably harder to get into than Dark Souls, because the game is a lot more open ended early on. True, on a very first play-through of Dark Souls it can be hard to figure out where you need to go next, but once you've found the right path it takes a while to get lost again. In Monster Hunter Tri (the version which I've been playing), aside from some smal text boxes and early gathering quests, you are tossed headfirst into a world filled with a myriad of resources and monsters. For anyone new to the series, I strongly recommend picking up the Monster Hunter Beginner's Guide, which covers the basics of the entire series, so no matter which version you're playing it will be of great importance. There is some guidance by the game itself, but the intricacies of combat (which I'll elaborate on later) are never truly explained to the player. For example, it is extremely important to roll after each attack, as this will give you an opportunity to strike again sooner than simply letting the previous attack animation play out.

Like the "Souls" games, Monster Hunter uses "animation-priority", meaning that when the player uses a button input, the animation doesn't happen immediately like in a hack and slash. The animation (which can be quite long for the larger weapons) must completely play out before the player is able to strike again, and the player is also vulnerable while they are attacking (but not while they are rolling, making this technique all the more valuable). When I first picked up Monster Hunter, this system frustrated me more than it did in Dark Souls. But after pushing back at the game and making an effort to learn the ins and outs of combat, the system became extremely rewarding. By committing to actions the player must truly mean what they are about to do, because a slip up could cost them health. In the early stages of the game a healthy stock of potions is all that is needed to avoid death, and not many enemies deal a whole lot of damage. But I imagine later in the game this will not be the case. Simply put, I now love the combat in Monster Hunter, and from trying a few different weapons it's clear that the variety will be staggering.

The monsters do not have visible life bars in the Monster Hunter games, instead the player must discern the various "tells" that the monsters make. For example, a monster may develop a limp, or start drooling when they are low on health, signalling the player to give it all they've got to finally defeat the beast. This seemed fairly frustrating at first, because I normally like to know exactly how much damage I'm dong, but after time the system grew on me.

From what I can tell so far, the gameplay loop of Monster Hunter seems to be: gather materials, to combine and make items and upgrade and build new weapons, to complete quests and defeat larger monsters, to get yet more materials and upgrade weapons further. Breaking it down this much is selling the game short, and even knowing this is really all there is to the game, still excites me. I'm currently using a great sword and progressing through the various quests. I will say I've only spent 3 hours and I've barely scratched the surface yet. But I can't wait to learn all there is to learn, and try Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate when it arrives here early next year.

What does the GiantBomb community think of the Monster Hunter series? If you have any helpful info for beginners, it would be greatly appreciated!

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Really hope they make a console version of 4 since I have no interest in handheld gaming of any kind. I had a blast with Tri ultimate on WiiU and it remains just about the only game I own on the system. Keep at it man. Make sure you try out the multiplayer since 75% of the content is actually multiplayer exclusive.

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Love Monster Hunter and love hearing new people get on board.

One little piece of advice I can give (well, more like a correction) is that drooling does not indicate that a monster is dying (though it's a common misconception). Monsters also have a hidden stamina stat, and a drooling monster indicates that it's getting tired and will probably go look for something to eat to recover stamina. This's nice to look out for because it lets you know that the monster will probably back off soon and go to one of its eating places (which you learn to memorize with time-- or hell, you could put down a piece of meat filled with tranquilizers to screw with it) and some of their movesets and behaviors shift when tired, but really the reason you wanna look out for drooling is because debuffs applied to the monsters last longer during this state. If you blind a drooling monster with a flashbomb, or trap it with a pitfall trap, it'll stay under those effects longer than it otherwise would. Most monsters also have a rage state, which usually is telegraphed by steamy breath, and applied effects do not last as long during these states (and in some cases, a monster may be immune to certain effects when enraged).

Anyway, keep it up! There's always a lot more to learn in the game.

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I have Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for the WiiU but after spending an hour or so with it I never went back.

It's one of many games sitting in my backlog that need more than a weekend or two to finish that I just haven't found time for.

I enjoyed diving deep into the Souls games and Monster Hunter has a more pleasing and enticing ecstatic in my opinion, so I was really hoping the game would hook me in. I guess I'll have to just sit down one weekend and really give it a 10+ hour effort.

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I had a terrible, nearly destructive Monster Hunter addiction. (And I want it back!) I purchased Monster Hunter Tri on launch day, on a whim. It was half price ($30) for some reason at walmart and there was a single copy. I took note of that and went to the ebgames directly outside the walmart and asked him how Monster Hunter Tri was selling. He responded; "Sold out 15 minutes after the doors opened this morning." I rushed back to walmart and bought that lone copy. And so started my horrifying Monster Hunter addiction. I sunk 8 hours every day into that game for the next year. Get up in the morning, go to work and then come back home and play Monster Hunter till I fell asleep. I wanted nothing more than to keep ranking up and unlocking bigger and harder monsters. Nothing more. I had a dedicated online team of friends, we split our weapon roles and learned how to cover each other, what supplies to bring and learned all the little tells the monsters had. Best cooperative online experience in gaming ever. Sadly it all came to a crashing end when the servers went down last year. So I bought all the PSP Monster Hunter games and started all over again! 3 more times!

I really love Monster Hunter. There isn't really anything like it out there. Sure, there are similarities; The souls games have similar attack priorities. MMO's (In general) have the loot drops / grind. And the crafting system is again, kinda like an MMO. There are likely other games with similarities, but I lack knowledge of them. I now eagerly await Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate and a 3DS with Monster Hunter art on it.

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I'm currently playing Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on my 3ds and my wii u, it's a ton of fun with friends. I sort of wish it stayed on the playstation consoles but I don't mind using my 3ds to play. Especially since most of my friends own 3ds. It's just one of those games you can waste your time on without really thinking. Also finding stuff and making your own equipment is tons of fun.

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Yeah I'm excited for 4 Ultimate but after playing the demo of 3 Ultimate on 3DS the controls seemed a little cumbersome. Maybe it would be worth getting the Circle Pad Pro (even if it looks kind of silly). I know it will probably never happen but I would love to play a Monster Hunter game on PS4, now that would get me excited about the console.

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I'm kinda feeling the same way as you dude. I bought the game since like February when it was on sale on the Nintendo EShop and I can't crack past an hour without feeling lost.... or maybe I'm drunk and not understanding what I'm doing?

I want to like this game series, like you mentioned the whole Dark Souls open world nature is appealing and the monster designs are creative and fun.

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I always get super excited when someone gives MH a chance. If you get into this game, and especially if you have friends to do the HR quests with, you will easily lose hundreds of hours to it. Probably one of my favourite series of all time, no game quite does the loot resources, craft gear and whoop bigger bosses loop as well as MH.

@pyrodactyl: Not quite true, while the HR quests are certainly designed to be played with other hunters, with enough grinding they can be solo'd. It's just far more of a time and skill investment, and less fun.

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@crithon: @noahtheboa999: On my phone, so sorry for the double post, but if you want to play MH on the 3DS with anything resembling competence, you really need the CPP. Bought one solely for 3 Ultimate and, despite sorely missing the claw grip from the PSP, I haven't regretted it.

Also as for getting into this game, the only reason I managed to do so was because I had a friend to show me the ropes. More than any other game MH requires someone to show you around, without direction I doubt I would be playing it today.

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@bollard: the controls on default 3DS isn't that bad, I can deal with it. No I just don't know what to do, go see this guy, talk to this guy, go here. I lost all interest pretty early on because it's not very engaging reporting to windows. My only friends who plays it is in Italy and France, so that sucks considering I keep seeing street passes of people who play it. I still like the idea of it, and wish maybe MH4 is that one that will hook me..... maybe?