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Not to incite a discussion about religion on the internet, but...

Is it a bad idea to join a cult?

I've been an atheist for a few years, which doesn't do a lot to help my intense fear of death and the unsettling feeling that I'll never be able to understand what my place in the universe is. So I've been thinking of adopting a philosophy to fall back on when I'm confronted with life's conundrums. Not something that I would seriously believe, because it's kind of hard to start seeing god in spaces that I've already filled in with science. But I'm intrigued by dogma and rituals. Some kind of structure that I can guide my life by.

The top two contenders so far are Scientology and Buddhism. I like the RPG aspect of Scientology. The idea of progressing through OT levels could give me a goal in life, though I probably wouldn't get very far if I don't take it seriously. Which I wouldn't. The sci fi bullshit is silly in a way I can get behind, but the organization's practice of censoring dissenting opinions seems kind of shitty.

Buddhism seems kind of cool, and there are even books about following the philosophy without taking the superfluous mythological bullshit literally. It would probably be better for me psychologically than Scientology but it doesn't have the novelty value of aliens, and it would probably require actual effort to grow spiritually, as opposed to trowing money at an e-meter until it says I'm a good person.

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@notdavid said:

I've been an atheist for a few years, which doesn't do a lot to help my intense fear of death and the unsettling feeling that I'll never be able to understand what my place in the universe is.

You need to come to terms with the facts, not join a cult that will fill your head with delusions and lies, however comforting they might sound.

The truth is there might be no purpose to the universe. We don't know that for sure but we can at least say that there's no evidence of purpose, so as far as we're concerned, we're just insignificant beings on a spec of dust that nobody else in the universe knows or cares about. You just have to deal with this and realize that life on earth is exactly what you want to make of it, and that it simply stops when you die.

In a way it's all very grim, so I understand why people turn to religion, but it's acutally the truth. Like it or not, the truth is the truth, there's no point running away from it and I think any philosophy that deliberately avoids facts to somehow make life more bearable is inhenrently flawed.

Dude, don't join a cult.

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edit: double post, sorry.

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I'm in a lizard cult that's been going pretty well for me.

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Personally I'd recommend joining a Reptilian cult so that when our shape-shifting overlords finally arrive you'll be ready to welcome them with open arms, instead of being slaughtered mercilessly like the rest of the cattle.

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It's not necessarily bad to join a cult, it's retarded to join a cult. Can assume there are girls in each cult you can do stuff to, but is it worth it?

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Buddhism has sweet RPG mechanics man, so no need for scientology. Unfortunately the level cap is 4, but when you get to that point you transcend this, and all other planes of existence, which sounds totally rad. Plus Buddhism has a respawn system so you can keep trying to get to level 4, and your level carries over from one life to the next!

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I only just opened this topic despite seeing it last night thinking "no thanks, i'm good".

I was not expecting this.

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@mikkaq said:

Buddhism has sweet RPG mechanics man, so no need for scientology. Unfortunately the level cap is 4, but when you get to that point you transcend this, and all other planes of existence, which sounds totally rad. Plus Buddhism has a respawn system so you can keep trying to get to level 4, and your level carries over from one life to the next!

Props for tying it back to video games! :D

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You do realize that you can't just choose a philosophy like a religion, right? All you'll do then is fooling yourself. On that note, why would you choose Scientology. You must have seen the stupid shit that cult produces, right? Why do you think that would help you get over your fear of death if you have already decided that deities do not exist.

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Just do gamechurch. I'm sure you could pay someone money, at some point.

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Last I heard, Scientology was pay-to-win.

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So you want something to stop you from being scared of death?

Just start to think that all that silly science isn't true and you'll go to heaven. That works for millions of others just fine. I know it sounds like a dickhead response, but I don't know what else to tell you. I just accept the fact that we die and that's it. So enjoy life while you're on the planet. Death comes to everyone.

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@notdavid said:

I've been an atheist for a few years, which doesn't do a lot to help my intense fear of death and the unsettling feeling that I'll never be able to understand what my place in the universe is.

In a way it's all very grim, so I understand why people turn to religion, but it's acutally the truth. Like it or not, the truth is the truth, there's no point running away from it and I think any philosophy that deliberately avoids facts to somehow make life more bearable is inhenrently flawed.

Dude, don't join a cult.

I never get why people think that's grim, to me I say it's motivating, if the only legacy we leave is our impact on others then shouldn't we all strive to change the lives of those around us? Which really brings us back to most good religious teachings, "be excellent to each other"

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Fuck.

I read that in Ryan Davis voice. And it applies perfectly.

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FUCK

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If you want, you cant look into Deism, a simple belief that there is "something more" to life, minus any and all serious dogma. I switched from atheism to Deism a while ago. More hopeful.

edit: btw Albert Einstein, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Hobbes, etc were all deists, that was what attracted my initial interest.

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Just worship Satan.

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I wonder if OP is reading every single post in here and making a checklist.

"Yeah ok Satanism, let me just write that down next to Jedi in the "maybe" category. Reptilian Cult, not too sure about that, I'm not a lizard but you know, I'm really scared of death so whatever helps me with that!"