PatchRowcester

Gets the job done, although looking at folks here, it feels like my internet is really super slow.

That being said, I never felt the need to upgrade my connection. I don't really download anything, and for games, this is good enough. So, no complaints here.

It was a holiday? Hmm...unfortunately, IT companies don't seem to care since we didn't a holiday.

@MrKlorox said:

This is just to confuse people who are not proficient with PCs into spending money on a feature they can get for free.

This is absolutely right.

@rebgav said:

@PatchRowcester said:

@Mesoian said:

@depecheload: @depecheload said:

VLC.

Seriously. Why would you bother with anything else. This is such a non-issue, it wasn't even worth mentioning.

The problem is the home theater version does not include native DVD play back. I can totally see why that would not sit very well with consumers.

Not everyone uses their computer the same. Of course VLC can be used, but if that were the case, no point in buying a media center edition, right? Just saying.

Dude, anyone buying a media center PC isn't going to run into this problem because they are shopping in 2003.

That statement sounds way too arrogant to me. People who buy windows 8 MCE are not shopping in 2003. I do feel for those people though, they don't know what they are getting themselves into.

However, it sounds like if the problem doesn't effect you personally, that problem doesn't even exist. All the statements made by people are correct. Folks who are acquainted with technology won't even think this is a problem, but computers are not solely meant to be used by tech enthusiasts. There are many users who have no clue what VLC is.

To those people, this is probably going to be annoying as hell. To get my mother to switch away from internet explorer to chrome has been an uphill battle. I think those are primarily the kind of users who will be effected by this dumb move.

@Mesoian said:

@depecheload: @depecheload said:

VLC.

Seriously. Why would you bother with anything else. This is such a non-issue, it wasn't even worth mentioning.

The problem is the home theater version does not include native DVD play back. I can totally see why that would not sit very well with consumers.

Not everyone uses their computer the same. Of course VLC can be used, but if that were the case, no point in buying a media center edition, right? Just saying.

@Video_Game_King said:

@PatchRowcester said:

However, DVD and Blu-ray playback support is not going to be part of that pleasure unless you shell out a few extra bucks.

What's the controversy? I doubt that Microsoft would just hand out Windows 8 computers/OS installation discs for free. That's not how business works.

This is about DVD playback, not about MS handing out DVDs...*facepalm*

@SSully said:

I honestly do not give a shit. I cannot tell you the last time I watched a DVD or Blu ray on my computer.

Were going to upgrade to Windows 8?

This just warms my heart.

Windows 8 is looking worse by the day to me.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-8-microsoft-blu-ray-dvd-playback,15544.html#xtor=RSS-181

Microsoft is incredibly excited about Windows 8.

In fact, it is so excited about its new operating system that it is compelled to promise that the new operating system will "delight media enthusiasts around the world". However, DVD and Blu-ray playback support is not going to be part of that pleasure unless you shell out a few extra bucks.

Déjà vu. Remember the outcry when Microsoft announced in 2006, shortly before the release of Windows Vista, that the spanking new operating system and its Windows Media Player would not support DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray playback out of the box? Well, the same is happening with Windows 8. Back in 2006, Microsoft argued that the it was worried about unsigned drivers and copy-protection concerns that may have put it in the line of fire of Hollywood. In the end, Hollywood had argued for years that Windows was the Pandora's Box of digital evil.

This time around, the justifications provided by Microsoft are not about copy protection anymore. However, Microsoft is still dancing around the actual reason why DVD playback will be cut. My personal favorite? DVDs just don't sell anymore and are in an unstoppable decline, so there is no reason to support DVDs in Windows anymore. Granted, I cannot remember the last time I watched a movie on a PC, but there are still plenty of people who, for example, enjoy DVD playback on a notebook on an airplane. Tell them that DVDs optical media sales are in a decline and that would be the reason to cut DVD playback from Windows and you are sure to get an earful.

Of course, the real reason is mentioned in the post as well. It's about the cost of decoder licensing that Microsoft wants to recoup. You can still get DVD playback, but you will have to pay extra - as you did for Windows Vista if you wanted that feature in the Windows Media Player - and acquire the Media Center Pack or the pro pack to end up with Windows 8 Pro "with Media Center". There was no information how much those extras will cost, but if you want to avoid them, you also have the option of choosing third party media software solutions, which have now an opportunity to market themselves in a much more efficient way.

@MikkaQ said:

@PatchRowcester said:

@MikkaQ said:

@drGiggless said:

I refuse to click your link out of principle.

Yeah, post the blog here instead of fishing for hits.

Fishing for hits...why would you assume that?

Hits are like medals that websites like Gamespot handed out to members. They don't mean anything. The reason I did not post here was because I use Windows Writer to publish my posts, and there is an excellent editor for blogger.

I should have posted the text here, and I have said previously that I will do that next time.

I assume that because that's the intention of lots of people on the internet, call me a cynic, but it's true.

Anyway we have a really nice WSIWYG editor here, so formatting is a snap. Guess you'll find out next time hah.

The editor is fine for text. When I try to include images and videos in the places I want to include, it makes my life so much harder.

Yes, for text, it is fine and functional.

@JasonR86 said:

@PatchRowcester:

*Regarding all the times when you say 'I'm going to state my opinion'. Well, that's all well and good but if Crytek can't do anything about it then why send them a letter asking them to?

3) So I watched the video and though you weren't inherently trying to break the game, when I played it, I never experienced any invisible walls. Yes, it does lead you down a path. So did Crysis 1. Crysis 1 was more open world then Crysis 2 but it was still a linear, go to place to place game.

5) We're going to have to agree to disagree dude.

8) Still going to have to agree to disagree.

9) I'm not saying you're childish I'm saying this request is childish. Though I agree the UI wasn't good for PC players and the lack of graphics options is unfortunate they didn't 'ignore' PC players. If they had, there wouldn't have been a PC version of Crysis 2. Now demanding for improvement isn't a bad idea. It's the wording and the underlying feeling behind it. It reads as if you are an exception as a PC player, deserving of more than other players, and demanding of something that you don't inherently deserve because of your 'PC gamer' status. Now I don't know your exactly meaning behind the specific words you chose. But this bullet-point reads really poorly.

So, again, I'm not calling you childish. I don't know you and have no idea what your like. But many of your points sound childish. These requests portray this sense of exceptionalism and of assumptions of the intentions and capabilities of Crytek and EA that may or may not be fair. It reeks of over-simplification and of an apparent belief that PC players are deserving of more due to something they believe they just inherently have but have not earned. But most importantly it sounds petty and attacking. If your intention is truly for Crytek to do something different with the next game then going on the offensive and attacking them with every point is probably not the way to do this. You'll just be ignored.

5) This is fine. Its a matter of opinion. Having played the game, I felt they were trying to incorporate CoD as much as possible. You may have felt differently.

8) I think the people who buy their games will benefit a lot if they stopped worrying about pirates. The customer shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to get the game working. I agree that so far, they haven't done anything like UbiSoft, but who know what they will do in the future?

9) Sure. I did feel that they completely ignored their core audience, the very audience Cevat Yerli was talking about when he announced Crysis 2 on more than one occasion. It doesn't bother me at all that the game is released on multiple platforms. The fact that they could have made simple changes which would have made the game better for the PC is what makes me believe they ignored the core audience. I consider myself to be the part of their code audience, at least as far as the first game is concerned.

What do you mean PC players are not deserving, and they have to earn something? We are paying for the game, just like everyone else. So why not give due attention to the platform?

Again, I fail to see why this is childish. It maybe something you disagree with, sure, but not sure why it is childish.

I mean, it may very well be looked at by a non gamer as childish, I mean I could be doing so many other things with my time, instead I am debating the merits of a game with people online and sending messages to game companies.

But if I were to be within the gamer bubble, I still don't see why this is childish. Anyway, it is your opinion.