SweeneyTodd

That's a ridiculous argument, though. What's to stop people saying "That #FixGamesJournalism group is just GamerGate"?

There's nothing to be gained from it.

Interesting, I assumed all discussion of this topic was still being censored from the site.

"GamerGate" is a thing that happened. Fourteen sites ran "Gamers are dead" articles the same day.

#GamerGate is a twitter search term used to discuss that happening and other games journalism issues (of which there are plenty, and no one seems to debate whether that's true, just whether it's OK to talk about it)

Neither of those things are people. Neither have agency.

There's no correlation between people who think it's something we should talk about that there's this elephant in the room of biased, conflict-laden games journalism going on, and harrassment. There just isn't. If I tweet racism under the #throwbackthursday hashtag on Twitter, that doesn't make people using the hashtag racist.

The argument doesn't make sense.

Furthermore, any change to another hashtag would just lead to people saying "Oh, these are those #GamerGate people", so it literally would make zero difference.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if this post doesn't get deleted, because it doesn't match the current narrative. Thanks for reading!

Unfortunately, it's about colluding to delete #GamerGate discussions. :(

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

I don't have any use for anything from Patrick or Alex.

Okay, that's not 100% true, I listen to the PowerBombcast. Other than that, I can't even watch GBEAST videos without cringing, which is shameful.

Klepek's stuff has never been good and with his obvious bias it's just gotten worse.

Zoe's largely irrelevant to the entire thing, it was when almost every site in existence closed ranks around the potential corruption and conflict of interest, and her PR manager organized the "Cuties Killing Video Games" meme that was covered in a half-dozen major gaming sites right around PAX, that people got their feet under themselves as far as trying to organize to speak out against corruption in the video gaming "journalism" industry. Hope this helps.

It's not about harassing anyone. Seriously. Some assholes on either side of the issue, or with no stake in it at all, have used it as an excuse to harass and incite, but guess what? Those assholes were going to be assholes about something before this, and they will after this, too.

One reason this is happening on twitter is because the sites that it's about, and many other, censor the discussion heavily and/or prevent that discussion entirely. (did you know that even on 4chan's /v/, there are mods who delete the threads about it repeatedly, after the mod community agreed not to?) People tried to raise these issues other places and were sent packing, so I guess they ended up where they were allowed to speak. I agree, Twitter is awful.

And I don't think you'll see Alex or Patrick raise these issues in an actual article. They certainly should, if they want to put such professional clout as they have behind their opinion. Although I am not sure if Giant Bomb would ever publish an article that said "If you disagree with me, stop giving us money and pageviews". It would certainly be interesting...

I love the past content, but after things like Alex angrily tweeting things like "If you don't agree with me about [non Giant Bomb issue], then get off the site", I'm not re-upping my subscription. I'll still use it until it runs out to watch older content, but I'm not seeing things (apart from Dan The Man) any more that I'm interested in.