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@ZanzibarBreeze said:

@vince20100 said:

"But he also has control over Metacritic, et cetera."

I sure don't like that part though, metacritic is a farce and to explain my point, watch that

John is trying to make all that stuff better. I don't know if you've been following him since the EGM/1UP days, but there are few more stand-up individuals in the gaming media right now than John Davison. He's a great guy; moreover, he has a knack for predicting the direction in which the industry is going. Listen to old episodes of 1UP Yours and you'll hear a lot from him.

Ok thank you. man all these messed up events distracted me from building my site. back to business... though I admit this is hard

@Aldo_Q said:

@vince20100:

If you look at printed media two entities covering the same thing in a different way can easily co-exist under the same publisher. I think something like the UK based Future Publishing has about 5 to 6 different printed game magazines alone. All with different perspectives (not just console based either). So I have hopes that GB won't go the tested route. Tested seems to have been sold because it else would shut down and this was a way to keep it alive. At least it will give Will and Norm a job, but I won't be going there anymore (I dislike the mythbuster guys).

I think the GB people have more to go for them. They are a much stronger footing in both the people behind it like Jeff and Ryan, but also a much larger audience and (paying) community. I still kinda fear the move was also caused because even GB could not make it on their own and investor money was running out (that they mainly lived on investor money and the content could not get them enough to keep going) and so they eventually needed to find somebody to buy them. But what use would it be to buy GB to only turn it into Gamespot? While with tested it's just the mythbusters guys buying their own website with instand content & community and a well known domainname. Nothing gamespot needs being 10x times if not 100x bigger then GB.

Well these magazines offer different subjects, that why they coexist. But yeah, you are right the community is strong... but man this whole thing sucks.

@ZanzibarBreeze said:

@vince20100 said:

GiantBomb (as well as the others) became part of WM, it didn't take away what ComvicVine was offering. Each sites had their own topics and worked well together, What i'm talking about here is a video game site taking an other video game site under its wing. Though somewhat different, both of them offers the same kind of coverage. In the long run, one of them will get engulfed by the other (or likely will, there is always exceptions) You cannot have two entities offering the same kind of coverage under the same roof. It doesn't make sense business-wise. Ubisoft and Gameloft work because they have different user bases and offers different genres/products. In this case here, I don't think giantbomb is different enough to not compete with it's sister site. But hey, I might be wrong, we also have examples in life of people achieving things against all odds. Time will tell i guess

I don't know that GameSpot is "taking Giant Bomb under it's wing." They're in the same building, so perhaps that's confusing, but they are both separate entities. Giant Bomb is not owned by GameSpot. Giant Bomb is owned by CBS Interactive. For all intents and purposes, Giant Bomb doesn't have anything to do with GameSpot. It just happens that both sites write about video games.

It looks like this:

Giant Bomb <-> GameSpot

As opposed to a pyramid like structure like this:

GameSpot

|

Giant Bomb

Moreover, John Davison oversees all of CBS Interactive's gaming stuff. Yes, he has control over GameSpot. But he also has control over Metacritic, et cetera. People who are placing GameSpot above Giant Bomb are making a mistake, and maybe that's partly where all of this negativity is coming from.

Yeah I meant in saying CBS, i just don't see how the 2 can stay intact for long. LIke I said, they are offering the same products, it doens't make sense to me. But hell, what do I know,, it might end up being ok. But I sure don,t like what's happening to WM at the moment, such is life I guess.

"But he also has control over Metacritic, et cetera."

I sure don't like that part though, metacritic is a farce and to explain my point, watch that

@drac96 said:

@vince20100: ComicVine existed before GiantBomb.

As for everything else you said, I don't necessarily agree. When I first heard about all of this I thought that Tested was going to become much cooler, and GiantBomb was going to get a lot worse. Tested as we knew it no longer exists.

GiantBomb on the other hand seems like it's going to stay largely the same for now. They've already shown that they're still going to put up dumb/awesome videos like Vinny checking his voicemail. I feel like Gamespot and GiantBomb have drastically different approaches to covering video games. I can see how it could become a problem eventually, but as of right now everything with this site seems to be just as awesome as it was before.

GiantBomb (as well as the others) became part of WM, it didn't take away what ComvicVine was offering. Each sites had their own topics and worked well together, What i'm talking about here is a video game site taking an other video game site under its wing. Though somewhat different, both of them offers the same kind of coverage. In the long run, one of them will get engulfed by the other (or likely will, there is always exceptions) You cannot have two entities offering the same kind of coverage under the same roof. It doesn't make sense business-wise. Ubisoft and Gameloft work because they have different user bases and offers different genres/products. In this case here, I don't think giantbomb is different enough to not compete with it's sister site. But hey, I might be wrong, we also have examples in life of people achieving things against all odds. Time will tell i guess

@Milkman said:

@vince20100 said:

@TheAdmin said:

@Excast said:

It's kind of a shame. I know both the tested and giantbomb guys have to try and pretend to be happy and optimistic about this move, but we all know what the end result is going to be. Tested is going to turn into Mythbusters land with little of the Will, Norm, and Gary charm that made the place what it was. Giantbomb is going to eventually get folded back into Gamespot.

Anyone that pretends this isn't going to happen/is happening is just being naive. RIP Tested and soon to be RIP Giant Bomb.

I think the same thing. this whole thing reeks. First, we won't see Gary Witta say "shoot that Guy" on tnt. Hear Will Smith on the bombcast trying to pronounce "exectutable". Getting annoyed by Matt Rorie's puppy's on BLLS. (we might but will probably be rare) Whiskey media was like a family and one of the best entertainment value I ever followed, they were all involved together in many different levels. It started 5 years ago with just Giantbomb and became a phenomenon. It was more than GB, it was WhiskeyMedia. I had similar feelings when Rich Gallup left Gamespot few years back, but what happened today is not even close to what happened back then. It's a part of an entire family that's now leaving. Sure, giantbomb will get better, more content, more budget, more anything, but it will not feel the same. Sorry for the bad pun, but this is how you dismantle a bomb

Second, business wise, it doesn't make sense to have 2 similar services or products on the same roof. Sooner or later one will take over the other, and guess what. It's rarely the one that got bought that do so. Sure GiantBomb may keep its name, but only one will call the shots. Imagine GB and GS competing for the same coverage on E3, PAX, GDC etc. Viewers will either watch GiantBomb or Gamespot and CBS might need to take a decision where to put its budget. WM was great because they all offered different services, they were no competition there. GiantBomb may do quick looks, informed podcasts, random pc games, but at the end of the days, it's still video game coverage and Gamespot already offers that. But hey that's just speculations, I hope i'm wrong, or that they can prove me wrong.

I get the whole making money for a living part, but this doesn't seem right. Surely there were other solutions?

You people are ridiculous. Get a fucking grip.

Dude, just look at history for examples, you will find plenty

@mcfizzlejizz said:

The way Adam and Jamie have been talking about tested on twitter does seem to suggest they "own" the website now:

- Adam Savage ‏ donttrythis

I mentioned that Jamie and I have a new website right?http://Tested.com. It's live RIGHT NOW. Wheeee! We have a new digital home!

- Jamie Hyneman ‏ JamieNoTweet

It's official, donttrythis and I have our own website:http://www.Tested.com [video]

Not sure how much the design and branding will actually change in time.

Man, this sucks so bad. they may be cool (I don't know them, never watched a show), but they could have at least mentioned will and norm. The MB fans would have adapted to the "newcomers", instead they get totally ignored. I fucking don,t like any of this, maybe i'm overreacting in all this. But these sites felt very special to me.

@TheAdmin said:

@Excast said:

It's kind of a shame. I know both the tested and giantbomb guys have to try and pretend to be happy and optimistic about this move, but we all know what the end result is going to be. Tested is going to turn into Mythbusters land with little of the Will, Norm, and Gary charm that made the place what it was. Giantbomb is going to eventually get folded back into Gamespot.

Anyone that pretends this isn't going to happen/is happening is just being naive. RIP Tested and soon to be RIP Giant Bomb.

I think the same thing. this whole thing reeks. First, we won't see Gary Witta say "shoot that Guy" on tnt. Hear Will Smith on the bombcast trying to pronounce "exectutable". Getting annoyed by Matt Rorie's puppy's on BLLS. (we might but will probably be rare) Whiskey media was like a family and one of the best entertainment value I ever followed, they were all involved together in many different levels. It started 5 years ago with just Giantbomb and became a phenomenon. It was more than GB, it was WhiskeyMedia. I had similar feelings when Rich Gallup left Gamespot few years back, but what happened today is not even close to what happened back then. It's a part of an entire family that's now leaving. Sure, giantbomb will get better, more content, more budget, more anything, but it will not feel the same. Sorry for the bad pun, but this is how you dismantle a bomb

Second, business wise, it doesn't make sense to have 2 similar services or products on the same roof. Sooner or later one will take over the other, and guess what. It's rarely the one that got bought that do so. Sure GiantBomb may keep its name, but only one will call the shots. Imagine GB and GS competing for the same coverage on E3, PAX, GDC etc. Viewers will either watch GiantBomb or Gamespot and CBS might need to take a decision where to put its budget. WM was great because they all offered different services, they were no competition there. GiantBomb may do quick looks, informed podcasts, random pc games, but at the end of the days, it's still video game coverage and Gamespot already offers that. But hey that's just speculations, I hope i'm wrong, or that they can prove me wrong.

I get the whole making money for a living part, but this doesn't seem right. Surely there were other solutions?

To follow the idea of my post on one of Pull thread. WhiskeyMedia was more than just the products shown (which was important mind you) but it was everyone's personalties and the feeling of family. All this is gone now, I hope all the guys the best, but for me, the whole thing became less interesting. Loosing Tested.com is a huge deal, and now Will and Norm will be shoved under these"real" personalities, shame.

@Flacracker said:

I have a question: He says that there isn't a problem with Gamespot and that is why he is coming back but there is. He got fired. Has something changed?

Watch the video dude

I have mixed feelings with all this. First, we won't see Gary Witta say "shoot that Guy" on tnt. Hear Will Smith on the bombcast trying to pronounce "exectutable". Getting annoyed by Matt Rorie's puppy's on BLLS. (we might but will probably be rare) Whiskey media was like a family and one of the best entertainment value I ever followed, they were all involved together in many different levels. It started 5 years ago with just Giantbomb and became a phenomenon. It was more than GB, it was WhiskeyMedia. I had similar feelings when Rich Gallup left Gamespot few years back, but what happened today is not even close to what happened back then. It's a part of an entire family that's now leaving. Sure, giantbomb will get better, more content, more budget, more anything, but it will not feel the same. Sorry for the bad pun, but this is how you dismantle a bomb

Second, business wise, it doesn't make sense to have 2 similar services or products on the same roof. Sooner or later one will take over the other, and guess what. It's rarely the one that got bought that do so. Sure GiantBomb may keep its name, but only one will call the shots. Imagine GB and GS competing for the same coverage on E3, PAX, GDC etc. Viewers will either watch GiantBomb or Gamespot and CBS might need to take a decision where to put its budget. WM was great because they all offered different services, they were no competition there. GiantBomb may do quick looks, informed podcasts, random pc games, but at the end of the days, it's still video game coverage and Gamespot already offers that. But hey that's just speculations, i'm surely wrong. They will be great.