Nudity and Sex: America vs Europe

Here in America sexuality is really looked down upon. The media trains it's public that sex and sin go hand and hand with each other. Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful. We are trained by the media to think of sex as an awkward and inappropriate subject matter and when ever we see some sort of nudity in film we are shocked.
After watching the English film Cashback yesterday I remembered how much of a different light sex is looked at by Europeans. The film had tons of nudity in it and really portrayed how beautiful the female body is. It was great to see a movie that used nudity in a constructive way and not just for shock value. The movie is an emotional roller coaster and I recommend it to anyone who likes art.
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Posted by Wolverine
Here in America sexuality is really looked down upon. The media trains it's public that sex and sin go hand and hand with each other. Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful. We are trained by the media to think of sex as an awkward and inappropriate subject matter and when ever we see some sort of nudity in film we are shocked.
After watching the English film Cashback yesterday I remembered how much of a different light sex is looked at by Europeans. The film had tons of nudity in it and really portrayed how beautiful the female body is. It was great to see a movie that used nudity in a constructive way and not just for shock value. The movie is an emotional roller coaster and I recommend it to anyone who likes art.
Posted by ahriman22

DID YOU GET YOUR CASH BACK?!

Posted by Subject2Change

Watched that movie roughly when it came out and wasn't into it. Maybe will give it another shot.

Posted by Jayge_

Europeans are too soft for my tastes.


wut.
Posted by Wolverine
@Subject2Change said:
" Watched that movie roughly when it came out and wasn't into it. Maybe will give it another shot. "
Did you ever finish it? It is on netflix instant watch.
Edited by MattyFTM

I've never understood how american culture looks at sex. It seems to be perfectly fine to show extremely violent content in the media, but it is completely wrong to show any sexual content whatsoever. This is a completely backwards way of thinking. Sex is perfectly natural, and completely fine. Obviously children shouldn't be exposed to sex in the media, but systems should be in place to stop minors being exposed to inappropriate content. And I'm not talking about every movie being a porn movie, but tasteful sexual content in films is fine. Violence, on the other hand, is not completely natural, and while I'm not against it in the media, I feel it is far worse than sexual content.

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Edited by Subject2Change
@MattyFTM said:
" I've never understood how american culture looks at sex. It seems to be perfectly fine to show extremely violent content in the media, but it is completely wrong to show any sexual content whatsoever. This is a completely backwards way of thinking. Sex is perfectly natural, and completely fine. Obviously children shouldn't be exposed to sex in the media, but systems should be in place to stop minors being exposed to inappropriate content. And I'm not talking about every movie being a porn movie, but tasteful sexual content in films is fine. Violence, on the other hand, is not completely natural, and while I'm not against it in the media, I feel it is far worse than sexual content. "
I believe the only movie where nudity was tasteful enough for the USA was in Titanic and it was just a tit. As the movie was rated PG-13 while containing "nudity". I am not anal retentive about anything so it doesn't matter to me but some people tend to shelter their kids. I've been desensitized by the internet 20 times over.

@Wolverine said:
" @Subject2Change said:
" Watched that movie roughly when it came out and wasn't into it. Maybe will give it another shot. "
Did you ever finish it? It is on netflix instant watch.
"
Yes I finished it but it was like 3 years ago since i've seen it and don't remember too much about it, I think it was just slow moving for me and it couldn't keep me fully interested in it. I have it in AVI format on my computer most likely and being I don't have Netflix or a 360, i'll end up streaming it to my TV through my PS3 or watch it on my PC; however still got plenty other things to watch as well though, so if it comes to my brain maybe ill watch it again soon.
Posted by Wolverine
@MattyFTM said:
" I've never understood how american culture looks at sex. It seems to be perfectly fine to show extremely violent content in the media, but it is completely wrong to show any sexual content whatsoever. This is a completely backwards way of thinking. Sex is perfectly natural, and completely fine. Obviously children shouldn't be exposed to sex in the media, but systems should be in place to stop minors being exposed to inappropriate content. And I'm not talking about every movie being a porn movie, but tasteful sexual content in films is fine. Violence, on the other hand, is not completely natural, and while I'm not against it in the media, I feel it is far worse than sexual content. "
I agree with you completely. I can't stand graphic violence in movies. I don't mind type of violence that would be in a movie like James Bond but heavy bloody violence disgusts me.
Posted by Jayge_
@MattyFTM said:
" I've never understood how american culture looks at sex. It seems to be perfectly fine to show extremely violent content in the media, but it is completely wrong to show any sexual content whatsoever. This is a completely backwards way of thinking. Sex is perfectly natural, and completely fine. Obviously children shouldn't be exposed to sex in the media, but systems should be in place to stop minors being exposed to inappropriate content. And I'm not talking about every movie being a porn movie, but tasteful sexual content in films is fine. Violence, on the other hand, is not completely natural, and while I'm not against it in the media, I feel it is far worse than sexual content. "
Ever heard of the Puritans?
Posted by EpicSteve

Mainstream movies typically portray sexuality in a manner of degrading women, or some eye candy. While romance moves often times use sex as a tool to exemplify beauty, those moves are not the summer blockbusters. American culture sees media sex as "bad" because of how mainstream movies has misused it. 

Posted by ChickenPants

Yeah we're pretty cool with the whole sex thing over here.

Posted by Origina1Penguin

Yeah, I've always been a bit baffled by the sex is worse than violence thing here.

...And now I feel like listening to "Sex and Violence" by The Exploited.

Posted by ChickenPants

Yeah it's ridiculous sometimes.Kids are allowed to watch/play the most grizzly and violent stuff they want but when there's even a mention of a boob or maybe a penis they have to be sheltered from it.

Posted by Jayge_
@ChickenPants said:
" Yeah it's ridiculous sometimes.Kids are allowed to watch/play the most grizzly and violent stuff they want but when there's even a mention of a boob or maybe a penis they have to be sheltered from it. "
Can't let the little kids turn into fags. What if they take a liking to the penis? Then what? Bible camp is expensive you know.
Posted by Osaladin

Anyone who fools themselves into thinking that America is strict with it's sexuality in the media and in entertainment venues are horrible mistaken. Just because a bare breast or full frontal isn't being shown that often, doesn't mean sex isn't being shown in public. The shorts that are pretty much thongs and the shirts that are pretty much bras have desensitized the American public more so than an occasional nipple. Which is to say that the occasional nipple hasn't been missing either. Most of the rated R movies now a days include a topless girl, even more so if the movie is bad.

I mean, who are we fooling honestly, if anyone in the world let alone America wanted to look at sex or just a pair of boobs, they can easily go to the internet, no matter how old that person may be. The problem with that though, is that it breeds hypocrites who like to rally against sex anywhere, but once they go home they look up porn and the most disturbing shit you can think of.

Posted by Suicrat

I think the picture the FCC paints on American media and sexuality is not at all the same as how American culture deals with sexuality. North America is the most sexually diverse place on the planet (except for maybe Thailand).

Posted by KillaMaStA

Dude, yeah. Im from europe and we have no problem with full nudity and sex in movies. You can have naked women in movies and still have it be ok for teens.
I dont know what kind of religious bullcrap your taught in america but sex is a regular thing here.

Posted by the_stig

Back in the 80's PG-13 movies used to show a little bit of nudity (maybe 5 - 10 seconds of a womans bare breasts) but now they can't show any.  Its stupid how the media has become more and more uptight about it but most the younger generations (maybe 35 years and younger) seem to be much more open and relaxed about.

Posted by natetodamax

wat

Posted by zitosilva

From an outside perspective, it is pretty weird how we receive the american point of view on sex. I can't say anything for certain, of course, because I'm not from the US, but it is somewhat bizarre how a single boob can become a scandal, or how much people seem to call others a pedophile.
Still, what you said about cinema isn't entirely true. You'll most likely won't find a lot of nudity and sex (though you'll find a lot of violence) in a hollywood movie. But, as you seem to be talking about the art domain specifically, which isn't really where hollywood fits most of the time. You can find sex and nudity used in a tasteful way in plenty of US movies.

Posted by LeoMinor

I watched Cashback last year and enjoyed it.  The only thing I didn't like was the "frozen in time" parts, it sorta breaks the flow of the movie for me.

Posted by Red

That's probably because European women are so ugly. Amirite?

Posted by Eric_Buck

Europe=win. I'm from North America but you guys have the wrong perspective on european women. Don't think of ugly withes with crooked teeth from Slovakia. Think of... chicks like Victoria Sylfsted from Swedan...

Posted by Out_On_Bail
@Wolverine said:
 Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful.
You've apparently not seen Bangbus 25 or Slaphappy 1-15.
Posted by RHCPfan24
@Osaladin said:
Most of the rated R movies now a days include a topless girl, even more so if the movie is bad.
I would actually insert "naked dude" instead of that. But I agree that America is looked upon in a strange way regarding this issue because there is still an abundance of sex and/or sex related pictures, topics, and phrases that get tossed around in the mainstream. Every magazine aimed at women and many at men have taglines about "better sex" and fashion is always about who is sexier than another. I won't deny the fact that the MPAA and other rating boards see sex as a bigger evil than violence, but there is definitely an abundance of sexual innuendo in American culture.
Posted by Teenaged

I agree. Making sex such a huge taboo is counter-educative.

Posted by Teenaged
@natetodamax said:
" wat "

Was it so complicated? :P
Posted by get2sammyb

Cachback has Michelle Ryan in it. Michelle Ryan is hot.

Posted by Al3xand3r
@Wolverine said:
" Here in America sexuality is really looked down upon. The media trains it's public that sex and sin go hand and hand with each other. Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful. We are trained by the media to think of sex as an awkward and inappropriate subject matter and when ever we see some sort of nudity in film we are shocked.
After watching the English film Cashback yesterday I remembered how much of a different light sex is looked at by Europeans. The film had tons of nudity in it and really portrayed how beautiful the female body is. It was great to see a movie that used nudity in a constructive way and not just for shock value. The movie is an emotional roller coaster and I recommend it to anyone who likes art.
"
I thought American Beauty was pretty cool in how it portrayed nudity.
Posted by Wolverine
@Al3xand3r said:
" @Wolverine said:
" Here in America sexuality is really looked down upon. The media trains it's public that sex and sin go hand and hand with each other. Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful. We are trained by the media to think of sex as an awkward and inappropriate subject matter and when ever we see some sort of nudity in film we are shocked.
After watching the English film Cashback yesterday I remembered how much of a different light sex is looked at by Europeans. The film had tons of nudity in it and really portrayed how beautiful the female body is. It was great to see a movie that used nudity in a constructive way and not just for shock value. The movie is an emotional roller coaster and I recommend it to anyone who likes art.
"
I thought American Beauty was pretty cool in how it portrayed nudity. "
I never saw it. Maybe I'll watch it.
Posted by PercyChuggs

This thread is useless without multiple videos comparing each countries views.

Posted by Hats

Cashback is a horrid movie and should not be held up as the epitome of British films

as for this repressed sexuality in the USA kinda hard to argue that when it has the biggest porn industry

BBC2 isint showing Cashback as an afternoon school special (i bet they would get high ratings if they did)

Posted by Origina1Penguin
@Out_On_Bail said:
" @Wolverine said:
 Throughout my whole life I have never seen a American movie that portrayed sex or nudity as something that is beautiful.
You've apparently not seen Bangbus 25 or Slaphappy 1-15.
"
Helpful Bus!
Posted by jakob187

Personally, I think that Kate Winslet getting railed on a laundry machine by Patrick Wilson in Little Children says it all.  Fact is...it's sex.  I'd rather fuck someone's brains out than shoot someone's brains out.  Don't understand what the problem with America is either...

Posted by GreggD
@Origina1Penguin said:
" Yeah, I've always been a bit baffled by the sex is worse than violence thing here....And now I feel like listening to "Sex and Violence" by The Exploited. "
SEX AND VIOLENCE! sex and violence SEX AND VIOLENCE! Alright, I'm not going to recite more than that, I'm sure you get the idea.
Posted by Origina1Penguin
@GreggD said:
" @Origina1Penguin said:
" Yeah, I've always been a bit baffled by the sex is worse than violence thing here....And now I feel like listening to "Sex and Violence" by The Exploited. "
SEX AND VIOLENCE! sex and violence SEX AND VIOLENCE! Alright, I'm not going to recite more than that, I'm sure you get the idea. "
Gets stuck in your head, doesn't it?
Posted by PercyChuggs

People are baffled by America's love of violence and treatment of sexual content? Really? Here, I'll explain it:

Religion. The Bible is possibly the most violent book in the history of literature. Also, Christianity makes sex seem shameful unless your married. Nobody wants to see Ward and June Cleaver knock boots.

Posted by GreggD
@Origina1Penguin said:
" @GreggD said:
" @Origina1Penguin said:
" Yeah, I've always been a bit baffled by the sex is worse than violence thing here....And now I feel like listening to "Sex and Violence" by The Exploited. "
SEX AND VIOLENCE! sex and violence SEX AND VIOLENCE! Alright, I'm not going to recite more than that, I'm sure you get the idea. "
Gets stuck in your head, doesn't it? "
Indeed, it does.