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    I think there is an unnatural imbalance in the way that these two subjects get portrayed in the mainstream,   
    Now both are interconnected in the animal world, And they are of course heavily associated with the history of our species, But why is it that Sex or any form of Nudity is to be censored? to be Shunned?  
     
    I don't understand why nudity is to be frowned upon when if I were to look at a mirror after a shower, BAM! there it is,  
    Now don't get me wrong, I Love explosions, I like to sit back and watch a Michel Bay movie for the visceral thrill of action, But why if there is a flash of tit it instantly get's a higher censor rating? 
     
    Now For a bit of background, I live in New Zealand, We are liberal in our view of a lot of things, My mother is an artist/writer and is very liberal, My father is from Amsterdam, He grew up in the red light district, It is safe to say that he is not a prude, and they brought me up to have my own voice and my own views in a society that usually restricts what children should learn/not learn, Now I state this because from a young age I was able to have my own opinion without any restrictions, which helped broaden my world views faster than my friends or schoolmates could.  
     
    I think it is hypocritical for censors to ban media, be them games movies T.V shows whatever, if they contain Sexual imagery, But they allow violence, I am allowed to shoot people in the head in GTAIV, But the Australian classification  board made R* take their game back and redo a cuts-scene that contains a rocking car? 
     
    I for one do not understand that logic, Another prime example is the shitstorm that happened after the "Nipple slip" Wardrobe malfunction, I say "Nipple Slip" because anyone who actually saw the footages or photos knows that there is a clasp or nipple cover over the actual tit. 
    It was a staged performance that people in America went absolutely crazy over, Because of a nipple.  
     
    Why, Because of the children, Because we have to keep them in the dark about sexual behaviour, We can't have kids running around having, "sex"  well they wont, Sexual behaviour does not start until puberty, so why is it that when they reach that age, 13-18 society dictates that they aren't mature enough to watch a bit of tit. 
    But they are absolutely mature enough to watch an act of violence. 
     
    I was able to play whatever game I wanted to at any age, except for GTA3, I played the earlier versions but My dad freaked when he saw how realistic the graphics were, how violent the game was, I am 21 now and when I brought my copy GTAIV at launch, he saw the game and flinched, He still does not understand how I can enjoy playing what to him is a sadistic game, And in his defence, it is, I would not let my children play such a game, Assassins creep two is out now, And there was just a   thread   that Jakob187 started, Asking if nudity was prevalent in it, And yes there is nudity, But in paintings, historical paintings, Now he was asking if it was enough to cause a disruption at his place of work, The key thing is that Violence was okay, Any amount of gore was ok, But sexual content was not. 
     
    I think that that is backwards thinking, I do not see the sense in that, 
     
    I want to let you guys have a debate, I want people that view Violence acceptable but Sexual content is not, Hell even if you don't have that view take up the devils advocate role,  
     
    There will be no name calling, I promise not to call anyone a puritan backwater hack. or a prude, (But that's what I'll think :) 
     

    Begin.       
     
      I think the real biggy I'm trying to hit home is the normailty of violence, especially in a dominantly religious state like the US which is also the source for most popular media (T.V, movies, games, comics) in the western civilisation if not most of the world. Case in point Image comics Spawn.  
     
    There is one issue where serial killer Billy Kincaid is "finger painting" which involves him gluing the severed fingers of a child onto a piece of paper. Then in another issue he is sent to hell (rightly so) where he is told the motto is "Ca-ca happens little buddy, ca-ca happens." 
     
    Why could they not just say shit happens? I could only think because  this would be deemed immoral. Why is it fine then to see someone getting a kick out of gluing a kids severed fingers , or the hero teleport inside someone and rip him open? But to show a naughty word, we can't have that now can we. 
     
    I'm not saying open the flood gates and have the kiddies watching porn and back to back Richard Prior live sessions, I just think that swear words and nudity (when used in context and done tastefully) shouldn't be tared with a different brush.  
     
    Sex happens in real life, not the cheap synth music "thank god you fixed the air-con, it's been so hot lately I just can't wear anything around the house but this g-string here, I don't have any money but is there anyway me and my identical twin sister Tammy can repay you" kind of sex, but  sex is a part of life.  
     
    So are the moments where the only way to express yourself in a certain situation is to use a swear word or a group of mates you'll hit the piss with when you will just casually swear during conversation. These are both fairly natural and (providing you are respecting the opinions of others) harmless aspects of human nature.  
     
    Why are they considered immoral, yet detailed and graphic forms of violence are seen as a lesser evil?
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    I think there is an unnatural imbalance in the way that these two subjects get portrayed in the mainstream,   
    Now both are interconnected in the animal world, And they are of course heavily associated with the history of our species, But why is it that Sex or any form of Nudity is to be censored? to be Shunned?  
     
    I don't understand why nudity is to be frowned upon when if I were to look at a mirror after a shower, BAM! there it is,  
    Now don't get me wrong, I Love explosions, I like to sit back and watch a Michel Bay movie for the visceral thrill of action, But why if there is a flash of tit it instantly get's a higher censor rating? 
     
    Now For a bit of background, I live in New Zealand, We are liberal in our view of a lot of things, My mother is an artist/writer and is very liberal, My father is from Amsterdam, He grew up in the red light district, It is safe to say that he is not a prude, and they brought me up to have my own voice and my own views in a society that usually restricts what children should learn/not learn, Now I state this because from a young age I was able to have my own opinion without any restrictions, which helped broaden my world views faster than my friends or schoolmates could.  
     
    I think it is hypocritical for censors to ban media, be them games movies T.V shows whatever, if they contain Sexual imagery, But they allow violence, I am allowed to shoot people in the head in GTAIV, But the Australian classification  board made R* take their game back and redo a cuts-scene that contains a rocking car? 
     
    I for one do not understand that logic, Another prime example is the shitstorm that happened after the "Nipple slip" Wardrobe malfunction, I say "Nipple Slip" because anyone who actually saw the footages or photos knows that there is a clasp or nipple cover over the actual tit. 
    It was a staged performance that people in America went absolutely crazy over, Because of a nipple.  
     
    Why, Because of the children, Because we have to keep them in the dark about sexual behaviour, We can't have kids running around having, "sex"  well they wont, Sexual behaviour does not start until puberty, so why is it that when they reach that age, 13-18 society dictates that they aren't mature enough to watch a bit of tit. 
    But they are absolutely mature enough to watch an act of violence. 
     
    I was able to play whatever game I wanted to at any age, except for GTA3, I played the earlier versions but My dad freaked when he saw how realistic the graphics were, how violent the game was, I am 21 now and when I brought my copy GTAIV at launch, he saw the game and flinched, He still does not understand how I can enjoy playing what to him is a sadistic game, And in his defence, it is, I would not let my children play such a game, Assassins creep two is out now, And there was just a   thread   that Jakob187 started, Asking if nudity was prevalent in it, And yes there is nudity, But in paintings, historical paintings, Now he was asking if it was enough to cause a disruption at his place of work, The key thing is that Violence was okay, Any amount of gore was ok, But sexual content was not. 
     
    I think that that is backwards thinking, I do not see the sense in that, 
     
    I want to let you guys have a debate, I want people that view Violence acceptable but Sexual content is not, Hell even if you don't have that view take up the devils advocate role,  
     
    There will be no name calling, I promise not to call anyone a puritan backwater hack. or a prude, (But that's what I'll think :) 
     

    Begin.       
     
      I think the real biggy I'm trying to hit home is the normailty of violence, especially in a dominantly religious state like the US which is also the source for most popular media (T.V, movies, games, comics) in the western civilisation if not most of the world. Case in point Image comics Spawn.  
     
    There is one issue where serial killer Billy Kincaid is "finger painting" which involves him gluing the severed fingers of a child onto a piece of paper. Then in another issue he is sent to hell (rightly so) where he is told the motto is "Ca-ca happens little buddy, ca-ca happens." 
     
    Why could they not just say shit happens? I could only think because  this would be deemed immoral. Why is it fine then to see someone getting a kick out of gluing a kids severed fingers , or the hero teleport inside someone and rip him open? But to show a naughty word, we can't have that now can we. 
     
    I'm not saying open the flood gates and have the kiddies watching porn and back to back Richard Prior live sessions, I just think that swear words and nudity (when used in context and done tastefully) shouldn't be tared with a different brush.  
     
    Sex happens in real life, not the cheap synth music "thank god you fixed the air-con, it's been so hot lately I just can't wear anything around the house but this g-string here, I don't have any money but is there anyway me and my identical twin sister Tammy can repay you" kind of sex, but  sex is a part of life.  
     
    So are the moments where the only way to express yourself in a certain situation is to use a swear word or a group of mates you'll hit the piss with when you will just casually swear during conversation. These are both fairly natural and (providing you are respecting the opinions of others) harmless aspects of human nature.  
     
    Why are they considered immoral, yet detailed and graphic forms of violence are seen as a lesser evil?
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