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Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.
What endgame stuff to get in order to beat Nyx in P3 FES
Higher Levels? I beat Nyx in about 5 minutes, most of that was taken up watching the cutscenes in between each form.
Kill the reaper and get its button,it unlocks a area where you can get TONS of xp,you could get to level 90 in no time.
Edit:reading the whole thing,seems like you would need Abaddon's heart item,It nulls every status alliment cept for poison.
Checking the list,seems like Alilat,Abaddon,Chi you and Messiah have items that will help you out the most.
Although Messiah is a bit out of your reach atm
In case you wasn't aware, to get the mission to defeat death you have to get the request from Elizabeth. You could still beat Death without doing that but you won't get the bloody pin afterwards, which like has been said is how you unlock the door to Monad.
It doesn't seem like you need that many more levels. It also seems to me like beating the reaper aught to be harder for you than beating nix right now. I agree on going into the extra dungeon. At least being over leveled should solve your problems. Is the bonus dungeon open to you right now? If so, you should abuse the living hell out of it. Just get saved before you go in and keep trying until you beat an enemy encounter. There is an enemy type there that is weak to physical. That's the one you want to fight the first several times as, even at your current level, you can whoop up on them pretty quick. Even the weakest enemy encounters give ridiculous xp, which means abusing saves will get at least your main character up to 99 pretty fast. That way you won't have to grind as much or as long. Grinding monad is a two pronged advantage to you. Not only don you gain levels but you also pick up badass personas which will land you some pretty rough attacks to use on old Nyx. Good luck and happy grinding.
Yeah. Now this has got ME all confused with all the different versions. So Monad is in fact not the area with Elizabeth and the boss battles. Evidently you have to beat the reaper to unlock Monad in fes? Or is it like you said, where the final days opens it like in p3p? If not, then Odin and thunder reign are definitely the way to go for that like you said. I know there are other ways but that seems like the best, especially starting out. I would say beating the reaper is worth it for the xp available in Monad.
For OP, what you want to do for that is fuse Odin and level him to 65, at which point he will learn thunder reign. It does severe thunder damage and it will stun the reaper, letting you do an all out attack. Even with Odin, and whatever levels you've picked up to this point, he will be tough. A lot of it is luck however. Some people insist that you should run away if the order of battle isn't basically you, team mate, team mate, reaper, Akihiko, but you might just want to play it by ear and see how you do. You do at least want to run if your turn comes right before reapers because that completely defeats the point. With patience, you'll eventually get him. Then you can go to the bonus dungeon and level up there.
" @WatanabeKazuma: Yeah. Now this has got ME all confused with all the different versions. So Monad is in fact not the area with Elizabeth and the boss battles. Evidently you have to beat the reaper to unlock Monad in fes? Or is it like you said, where the final days opens it like in p3p? If not, then Odin and thunder reign are definitely the way to go for that like you said. I know there are other ways but that seems like the best, especially starting out. I would say beating the reaper is worth it for the xp available in Monad.For OP, what you want to do for that is fuse Odin and level him to 65, at which point he will learn thunder reign. It does severe thunder damage and it will stun the reaper, letting you do an all out attack. Even with Odin, and whatever levels you've picked up to this point, he will be tough. A lot of it is luck however. Some people insist that you should run away if the order of battle isn't basically you, team mate, team mate, reaper, Akihiko, but you might just want to play it by ear and see how you do. You do at least want to run if your turn comes right before reapers because that completely defeats the point. With patience, you'll eventually get him. Then you can go to the bonus dungeon and level up there. "In FES you have to beat the Reaper, the door appears but you need the pin that it drops. I remember it well as it wasn't to long ago I did it myself.
Yeah. That's Persona for you. Unfortunately, it's one of those games that you almost have to follow along with a guide to play successfully. But once you've been through it once you know what to expect going through it again.
Ahh. That's a raw deal. I remember in portable, I used Monad as a tool to prep for beating the reaper since they messed with how all of that unlocks.
I'd say playing Persona 3/4 with a guide is a sure-fire way to ruin the games for yourself." @asmo29a: Yeah. That's Persona for you. Unfortunately, it's one of those games that you almost have to follow along with a guide to play successfully. "
@somnambulist said:
" @WatanabeKazuma: Ahh. That's a raw deal. I remember in portable, I used Monad as a tool to prep for beating the reaper since they messed with how all of that unlocks. "
Actually, no Monad unlocks in P3P the same way it does in fes. You must be thinking of the vision quest.
Only in the original P3 did Monad unlock by itself.
I got through P4 without guides just fine, then with my understanding of how to manage SLinks etc. new game+ed it on hard and got all the bonus stuff, all SLinks maxed out etc. So when I started P3 I went "hey, I know how this works, I'll just start on hard right away". Got killed in the very first tutorial encounter because the fucking shadow landed a crit, after one and a half hours of intro cut scenes and dialogue without a single save point. Restarted and managed to get through about 12 hours of it till I resigned and startet again on normal, and pretty much breezed through the whole game from that point on. Until Nyx..
I know I did Monad before I beat the reaper though. It probably unlocks on the new game plus and that's how I did it.
I think you take all items with you in a new game+. Since that includes the Blood Pin or whatever you need to unlock the door, that's most likely what did it." @mutha3: I know I did Monad before I beat the reaper though. It probably unlocks on the new game plus and that's how I did it. "
Nulling my party's weaknesses won't do me much good, that isn't what kills me. What gets me everytime in the end is some combination of fear/rage/charm/distress and the constant onslaught of almighty damage. The only thing that would really help at that point without more lvls/personas would be ailment immunity for the whole party. Or at least two.
" @somnambulist said:You can try and fuse Gabriel, he has a Null Charm spell....I think.I think you take all items with you in a new game+. Since that includes the Blood Pin or whatever you need to unlock the door, that's most likely what did it." @mutha3: I know I did Monad before I beat the reaper though. It probably unlocks on the new game plus and that's how I did it. "
Nulling my party's weaknesses won't do me much good, that isn't what kills me. What gets me everytime in the end is some combination of fear/rage/charm/distress and the constant onslaught of almighty damage. The only thing that would really help at that point without more lvls/personas would be ailment immunity for the whole party. Or at least two. "
The items that null stat effects are heart items from certain Persona ... if I recall it's Abaddon which nulls everything, and Narcissus has one which will null just Charm, but that's probably where the biggest problem is coming from. If you don't know, that's when you fuse a Persona and they have a little gem-like heart on their stat screen page thing ... then you have to level them up a certain amount and you'll get a item from them.To get multiple items you register the Persona with the heart item just before they are about to give it up, then discard the card when they do and pull the registered card back out of the compendium.Nulling my party's weaknesses won't do me much good, that isn't what kills me. What gets me everytime in the end is some combination of fear/rage/charm/distress and the constant onslaught of almighty damage. The only thing that would really help at that point without more lvls/personas would be ailment immunity for the whole party. Or at least two. "
Also there's some pretty good items in Monad.
STEP 1:
Buy Persona 3 Portable instead
STEP 2:
Have control over your entire party
STEP 3:
Win
That's how I did it anyway :(
Actually your only real mistake is you clearly didn't use the time in the game effectively. You should have leveled up constantly throughout the game and been clearing new area's in like 1-2 nights then farming them fairly well. When I got to end game I easily could beat the reaper without doing any grinding, could handle the extra dungeon fine immediately, and trust me, my main character did solo nyx. The weapons you get in the extra dungeon don't hurt either, they are the best in the game by a mile. Also work more on your persona fuses, don't accept crappy results and keep redoing until you get what you want.
@somnambulist
No you don't get to keep all items, you only get to keep non plot items and the gear equipped on your main character. Anything you had on your party is poof as well as the pin. Of course you get to keep the real bonus, the courage etc ranks and your persona list.
Ahh I remember when I fought Nyx. It was the summer of last year.. I was on my bed, eyes glued to the PSP I had been holding for many hours. It was a grueling experience.
Good luck! :|
Man, I must be extremely lucky because I managed to beat Nyx on my 2nd try without using any special personas or items.
" @Ventilaator: P3 FES is better than P3P so that's a pretty lame way to do it. "Totally agree, but I seriously could not beat Nyx even after my 50th try on the PS2 version, and did it on my first without any trouble at all on the PSP version. All because of direct character control.
" @FluxWaveZ said:Not being able to control your party in Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES is indeed a big fat bummer." @Ventilaator: P3 FES is better than P3P so that's a pretty lame way to do it. "Totally agree, but I seriously could not beat Nyx even after my 50th try on the PS2 version, and did it on my first without any trouble at all on the PSP version. All because of direct character control. "
" Not being able to control your party in Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES is indeed a big fat bummer. "I really didn't have trouble with not controlling your party directly in FES. Outside of the occasional unwanted Marin Karin, the leader commands served me pretty well. Not to brag, but it really just took me 3 times to beat Nyx and I wasn't following a guide or anything. The battle just required more strategy than most in the game. I do recognize the advantages that direct control bring, though.
" Man, I must be extremely lucky because I managed to beat Nyx on my 2nd try without using any special personas or items. "Nah, that is just skill. I did the same thing.
" @Cloudenvy said:I experienced a good handful of Wind Breaks from Yukari as well, sadly." Not being able to control your party in Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES is indeed a big fat bummer. "I really didn't have trouble with not controlling your party directly in FES. Outside of the occasional unwanted Marin Karin, the leader commands served me pretty well. Not to brag, but it really just took me 3 times to beat Nyx and I wasn't following a guide or anything. The battle just required more strategy than most in the game. I do recognize the advantages that direct control bring, though. "
" Actually your only real mistake is you clearly didn't use the time in the game effectively. You should have leveled up constantly throughout the game and been clearing new area's in like 1-2 nights then farming them fairly well. When I got to end game I easily could beat the reaper without doing any grinding, could handle the extra dungeon fine immediately, and trust me, my main character did solo nyx.
" @FancySoapsMan said:That's a Pro Tip right there!" Man, I must be extremely lucky because I managed to beat Nyx on my 2nd try without using any special personas or items. "Nah, that is just skill. I did the same thing. "
"Btw, I know there's a bad and a good ending depending on how you decide on December, 31st. Is the "good ending" path divided as well like it was in P4 where you absolutely had to speak with every max SLink and gather at Junes etc. to get the REAL real ending, or are you set once you decide to do the right thing on New Year's? "No not really. You just have to make the right call, the real ending is part of the "The Answer" which is actually alot harder than the main game.
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