Unfinished: Ori and the Will of the Wisps (02/26/20)

Hollow Knight > Dead Cells :P

Also this looks dope, can't wait to play it!

Wow! The soundtrack is really good!

I don't understand people that don't like Hollow Knight. It's souls combined with metroidvania with the perfect amount of rpg systems and difficulty ramp. The map/compass stuff makes exploring so much more rewarding, and you actually learn the layout of areas and they become memorable instead of just another block in the corner. It did something new and refreshing combined with just being a fucking rock solid game.

Anyways, this game seems to be HEAVILY inspired by Hollow Knight. Like, it's kinda shocking how much so. But now I'm interested for sure, I wonder how many people that liked the first game might be turned off with the changes here.

DON'T BULLY HOLLOW KNIGHT HE'S JUST A LAD

The first game was damm good, but not the masterpiece I hoped for. Got high hopes for the sequel!

Sumptuous. Did they take out the original save mechanic?

Brad don't worry. a map costs nearly nothing in Hollow Knight. The first maps cost less than 100 geo's, in a game where you end up with tenthousands of geos. Most expensive map? 150 geo's. Calling it a grind is a stretch.

Also, if you don't have enough geo to buy a map as you find the map guy, once you are ready to buy the map, it's available for purchase in town.

The orb from the first game made me stop playing. Wasn’t into it at all. This looks improved in every way. Well the name is terrible but basically every name is

This is the most hollow knight stuff... That pip screen is like copy and paste

Must resist watching.

Looks Great!

So, I get to murder all the wondrous woodland creatures with my energy sword? Sounds good to me.

too soon

hey- i loved both but U R correct. dead cells was fun, but hollow knight was dope as hell. maybe the best last boss of any game ever.

This looks stunning!
It's cool that they've (apparently) been inspired by Hollow Knight,
but it also means I'll (likely) be comparing this new Ori game to Hollow Knight,
and Hollow Knight raised the bar pretty darn high.

I will never forgive...

I cheat engined the end of Hollow Knight I couldn't stand any of the upgrades or the insane difficulty ramp that game had or the almost flash like animation quality the game had.

If you like Hollow Knight good on you I won't tell you how to live your life. It's just not my cup o' tea.

Wow, yeah, these guys played a lot of Hollow Knight, its clear lol. Which is fine cause HK is easily one of the greatest metroidvanias in the past decade hands down. But this game looks great and I can't wait to dive into it.

Which reminds me, the sequel to HK should be coming out sometime soon , or maybe around the new console launch.

I'm with Ben on why the pushback on metrovania like it or not it's a good way too tell you what kind of game it is.

I thought Hollow Knight's difficulty was structured in an intelligent way. At first, you don't have much health so it's quite hard. Then you explore the first area's and gain power. Once the main quest of the game becomes clear, you get to choose your difficulty. Are you going 'off the map' into area's that you don't necessarily need to be just to figure out what's up there? This is the difficult part of the game, but will lead you through parts of the map you will otherwise never see. Or do you focus on the main quest bosses? These are designed to be very completable for non-completionists and end up being a cakewalk if you have explored the map beyond what the main quest asked of you. Some people will beat this game after 4 bosses, others will beat nearly 30 bosses. For those that truly want to test their limits, you get to choose to play an optional platforming arena that pretty much turns this game into Meatboy. There's also an optional combat arena that asks mastery of the combat over a long period of time. You can make this game as hard as you want.

@onemanarmyy: It's absolutely masterful how they designed it. One of the best games ever made.

Sumptuous

these replies are almost all about hollow knight, jeeze. I have the Ori LE pre-ordered and I'm so excited, god I loved the first one and this looks absolutely incredible.

@mellotronrules: Agreed! That final boss was so epic, and I even liked the White Palace platforming section leading up to it.

Both are great games obviously and totally different. But HK is up in the same tier as Super Metroid for me personally.

Anyone who complains about the maps in hollow knight cant have played it for more than 5 hours. Seriously its such a non issue.

Jeff and Ben’s... “questionable” opinions aside, I am beyond fucking jazzed to play a new Ori game in a post-Hollow Knight world.

Big fan of Hollow Knight-likes.

@mechanized: Which parts in particular? Most of what I've seen here seems very similar to Ori 1, with some stuff from Zelda and character action games thrown in. I didn't play a huge amount of Hollow Knight but I'm not really seeing the comparison.

An Infinished, eh?

Giant Bomb's weird distaste for Hollow Knight always confused me considering its near universal acclaim everywhere else. It's as close to perfect as a metroidvania can be, I can't think of a more intelligently designed game. I'd go as far as say it has surpassed Super Metroid and SOTN as the new standard for the genre.

To keep this on topic, as someone who didn't love the first Ori, hearing the sequel might be heavily influenced by Hollow Knight has at least me a lot more interested now.

I would watch a video series of Brad playing Hollow Knight.

I've always thought Hollow Knight was the most overlooked game by GB.

I remember there being a thread about what to call this genre, and Brad pretty much stumbles into the suggestion I had; Open-world platformers.

Y'all ever hear a take about Hollow Knight so bad you're forced to immediately go to sleep?

Why do I get the YouTube version of this video with all of the ads and overlay shit going on?

@nigeth: click the 3 dots at the bottom middle of the video and choose go back to GB player.

@sirdancelot: Can't be worse than Jeff's Outer Wilds take on the GOTY pod. Between that and his bouncing off Hollow Knight, I'm eternally bummed he is so dismissive of what are probably my two favorite games of the last 5 years.

I bounced off Hollow Knight too. Dunno why people would care if someone else doesn't like something they like :S

Dead cells is infinitely better than hollow knight which is a good game but doesn't even come close to dead cells.

Sorry I had to fix the fact the dumbest post in 2020 is at the top of the page

The only frustrating thing about Hollow Knight and Giant Bomb is that there isn't anyone to counter their negative impressions, which is really weird for one of the best games of the last decade. Like, this whole map thing is such a minor detail, I didn't even think about it when I finished it.

Maybe if you're in it for the loot and numbers going up. It didn't do too much for me.

@steveurkel: Dead Cells is a mindlessly repetitive slog compared to the intricately hand crafted world and abilities of Hollow Knight.

Sorry everyone I had to correct a flawed (and really rude) correction, but we’re all good now.

Ori the original is a great game as well. Their saving system was really clever and let you played as dangerously as you wanted to. While the escape sequences could start to drag as you replayed them over and over again, you couldn’t deny their spectacle. Just a really great game in the metroidvania pantheon so I’m really looking forward to this here sequel. Day one Game Pass baby.

Can't wait to play this, especially if they've expanded on ways along the lines of Hollow Knight. Ori was a tight, fun experience with great movement, and had some really great sequences that took advantage of all that. But (at least for me) I didn't play it until after Hollow Knight, so it got overshadowed by the best Metroidvania ever made, given that Ori is comparatively linear, guided, and less rewarding of exploration.

Also like hearing the worst Hollow Knight takes in the world for the tenth time. Don't get discouraged Brad, it's an amazing game.

i started the video and just had to stop it, i really don't want to spoil this game if i can avoid it. the visuals are so stunning right off the bat, it reminds me of Muramasa.

The first game was great, this looks fantastic, and I love the energy the crew has on this QL.

Man, I am so excited for this game. I've even scheduled a few days of PTO for the release, so I can spend a long weekend immersing myself in it. Really looking forward to all the new systems they've added, especially since I haven't touched Hollow Knight at all.

This is the worst Hollow Knight quicklook I've ever seen.

I really like the mobility going on here. I gave up on Blind Forest when it first came out, because the difficulty frustrated me to no end. I've been playing it again now on PC since it's on Game Pass and while the difficulty spikes still make me grit my teeth at times, I think I'll try and get through the whole thing this time. Will give this one a go too, that decision made a lot easier by the fact that it'll be available on Game Pass.

I put around 30 hours into Hollow Knight, maybe, then my old man hands couldn't handle the combat anymore and I lost any interest to keep going.

I played Hollow Knight on Switch some years ago and really bounced off of it. Whereas Ori is my favorite metroidvania. But all this talk of how good HK is and how the new Ori is heavily influenced by it is making me want to revisit HK with a quickness and give it a fair shake!

I really enjoyed the original but I just can't get excited about this. It always felt like a game that should stand alone. Can't help but feel like "been there, done that". I don't really need to do it again. Feel the same way about Nioh 2. I miss when sequels would take big risks with major tonal shifts and bold ideas. Though, this was always designed to be a comforting game so its nice to know it'll be there when I'm craving this kind of thing.

I look forward to playing "Ori and Does Team Cherry Need to Contact their Lawyers???"

Wow... Someone (or several someones) at Moon Studios / Xbox REALLY LIKED playing Hollow Knight, so much so they made this, which is uncomfortably close to a near 1:1 ripoff in places.

Hollow Knight is easily one of the best independent games of recent times.