Quick Look: Closure

Glad to see they're doing a Quick Look of this. I'd been meaning to look into this game.

Also: First! :)

Patrick! Haven't seen him in a while. I've missed regular QLs.

Nice! Wow, this looks decent..

I played this on the PC a couple of years ago... it was pretty neat :)

Black & White is my favorite color

This game is a great concept.

Hey Patrick, any chance of getting a Xenoblade Chronicles quicklook this week? We know you have a copy :)

Is it just me or is the sound mix much louder than usual?

@Antihippy said:

Is it just me or is the sound mix much louder than usual?

I like it. Seems more in line with most of the other things on my system. I usually have to turn the volume up a bit more for GB stuff.

Patrick :D, Finally getting out those QL! :)

This actually looks pretty cool, is this coming to PC (other than the original Flash version)?

Nice.

Give more quick looks!

@murisan said:

@Antihippy said:

Is it just me or is the sound mix much louder than usual?

I like it. Seems more in line with most of the other things on my system. I usually have to turn the volume up a bit more for GB stuff.

Same here. After the video ended, I went to turn the volume back down to normal before unpausing my music. Then I realized I had never turned it up.

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Had no idea they made a more fleshed out version of this! I randomly stumbled onto the flash game just last week.

What closure!

Bought this last night after being pleasantly surprised by the demo. Great little game, curious to see how the difficulty curves up later in the game....

This looks pretty cool actually. I'll have to give this a try at some point.

@BobJustBob said:

@murisan said:

@Antihippy said:

Is it just me or is the sound mix much louder than usual?

I like it. Seems more in line with most of the other things on my system. I usually have to turn the volume up a bit more for GB stuff.

Same here. After the video ended, I went to turn the volume back down to normal before unpausing my music. Then I realized I had never turned it up.

It's nice that it's louder, but it's just a tad too loud for me. I've actually had to turn my/the video player volume down for all the Quick Looks, except for the Raccoon City Quick Look, since the move. 10 - 20% quieter would be just about perfect.

Is this DLC for Mass Effect 3?

Little too much reverb on the microphones. or rather ambient bleeding.

Closure....Will this game leave me indifferent in the end?

Closure time! You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

Could it be that the sound is mono? Could someone s̗͉͓ͩ̅ͥ̇̈́a͙͕͖̲ͮ̅͌ͦd̯̫͍̔̋ͭ̋̑̉ͮn͈̭͓̰̺̟̼̗ͫ̒ͯͅf̬̯̮̞̭̱̩̝͋͒͛̐͋̇i̗͈̩̙ͦͫ̾͛͆̅̾͒f̳̫̓ͨͪ̏̉̋m͚͇̈́ͮr͍̝̮̥̰̻͙̗̈͑ͮ͌m̤̭͔̮͓̱͎̼̫̈͆̍̈́ͯͩ̉̚ ͖̙̙͉̋̓ͨt̺̱̰̗̼̠̟͓̰͌ͬ͂ͥh̯͓̙̖̥͔͒͆̃̊ͮͬ̋̈́̾a͎̗̓͒̊ͤ͑t̰̗̳͊̎ͫ̈́͛̎ͣ̾̈ ̰̥̩̩͙̤̅ͫ͗̍̔́ͩ͋ȋ͚̰͓̮̻̋t̫͍ͫ̄ͣ ̬̜̭̙͚̹̾͛̾͐̃i͈͉ͧ͂͐͑̓s̠̥̮͕̲͈̺̔͐̍̒ͩ̑ ̭̼̙̩̫̞ͤ̓̆̌̂ͧͣĭ̱̰ͥͤ̍̓ͮ̈ͮ͛ṋ̞̦̠̤̟̟̑̽̏.͔͖̥͎̜̳̘̋̊̋́̃̓s̭̤̥̗̾̾ͬ̈͗ͦͪ̚.͚͓̭̹̙̤̄ͤd̮̪̗̣̭̠̲̆͐f̬̙͍̪̺̘̎ͩ̒̌̈́j̠͕̞̻͉̱͓ͥ́ͪͮ̽̆͐ͤ;͙̮̦̲̙̹̼̪ͯ̒̎̍̆ͭ͗s̞̪̹ͥ̽̈́̔ͣ̾̽a͕̖̣̤̦̙͍ͯ̌ͩ̇d͚̝͓̠͔ͦͧͨͣͯ̓f͈͓͊̓̒̓ͩͭͧ͊̍ ͎͎̳͓̯͊ͫ̀ͫ͒̒͐͆́ȯ̳̫̻͎̦̳͖̾͒̿̑̋̿͂h̜̞̹̗͍͍ͨ̄ͧ͋̍̍ ͕̳͈̟̈ͪg̭̰͇̬̦͕ͨͯͬ̇͗ͯͩͧ͋o͕̞ͪ̊ͥ̀ͫ̏̐ͨͫd͍̺̯̠̪̰̀̅ͫ ̝̰̪̜̮̘̪ͩ͐ͤ͆̓̀̚š͕͙̥͇͚͙̝̦̱o̤̙̺͍͍̙ͩͤ͑ͦ̈́̾̋̚m̭͙̗̙̈́ͧ̿̓̓̉ͩ̾̓e̦̲ͪ̊͒ͫͫ̍̎ó̭̬͔̻͇͈ͨ̓ͥ͌̊n̻͙͍̮͓̰͌̈ͮ̄͂͂ͮ͗ͯͅe͉̲͓̬̞͚ͩ͐̿ ̜̜̈̌͋͊͑ͬs̩̳̆̿͆̔̈́̄ͦ̎ĕ̦̟̱͉͍̗̙̦̈̒ͪ́n̟͍̮̒͒ͯ͐d̟͚͕̼̼͊̓̋̿͆̎̇͂ ̭̪ͤ̽ͦ̓͒͌̊͑͛h̬͕̰̒̔͐̍ͥ̍ͮͥe͚̥̾l̙̋́̓ͤ̀p̹͕ͨ̾ ̫͙̝̣̰̻̾̏̆ͅi͍̲̖̣̽̐ͧͣͤ̑̓ͅͅṭ̖̝͂ͭ̑͂͒ͫ̂ͤ ͓͕̝͓̼̲̝̾̆ͧ̓̚h͖̰͈̹̳̞̓̌̓̃̔̓̎͒ā̫͙̪͈̪̲̤̋̀̓̔s͙̻͒͒ͬ̿ͥͅ ̥͕̮͓̹̑̇̃̈̄̐̾ͤ̄ḅ̙͖̹̜̬̳͆̈͋͆͂̒͑̃̈́e̞̖͓̰̜̭̩ͨ͂ͫ̈́g͓̰̺̺̹͍̘͌̍̐̅͗ͣ͂̽ṷ̹͔̳̘̂̓̿̀̌͛̚̚n̮͆̎ͫͨ͛͆

I played the flash version a few years back on Kongragate I believe. It was a neat little game.

oh jesus... this game is messed up, in the best way possible.

Looks really cool, got £20 PSN card from my brother for my birthday so I will check out the demo and buy it if I like it

I didn't think this game wasn't very enticing at all. Then again I'm sick of every indie game being a platformer.

Am I the only one that's getting a real mid-90s Liquid Television vibe?

I could use some closure

This game is a huge mindfuck. As soon as I tried the demo, I had to buy it. Much like Braid, you have get to get used to a completely new way to play a platformer.

And the music is creepy, great sound design when you go into the water.

Must buy

Interesting mechanics. Can't say the same about the visuals

Wow, this looks awesome. Love that retro-futurist aesthetic.

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

This looks pretty cool, I need to get this after I get Journey.

Finally some closure.

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Nothing with Metal music in it can be pretentious.

@PimblyCharles said:

Hey Patrick, any chance of getting a Xenoblade Chronicles quicklook this week? We know you have a copy :)

Probably not until next week, thanks to the Molyjam.

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Quick question: Who gives a shit?

Also your lame attempt at asking us to explain something (that even you don't know about) while refusing to accept obvious answers is sort of sad.

@Xeirus said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Quick question: Who gives a shit?

Also your lame attempt at asking us to explain something (that even you don't know about) while refusing to accept obvious answers is sort of sad.

Wow, defensive much? Also not how he didn't answer the question. Hah.

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Quick question: Who gives a shit?

Also your lame attempt at asking us to explain something (that even you don't know about) while refusing to accept obvious answers is sort of sad.

Wow, defensive much? Also not how he didn't answer the question. Hah.

Well, I could give you a couple of reasons:

First of all, and the most obvious to me is for game play purposes. You're safe in the light, you're not where it's dark. One could even go as far as saying the mechanics are pretty "black and white" so why muddle it up with colours? Sure making it black and white certainly adds an esthetic appeal, but adding colour wouldn't add to the game play; in fact, I would say in this instance it would detract from the experience by taking focus away from what really matters: the puzzle solving. The stark contrast of black and white make it really easy to tell where you can and can't go.

And if that's not good enough for you, this was also developed by a small indie team, which means they more than likely had limited assets (i.e. time, money, people) so if you can get your art team to stick to only black and white, it should help make development as a whole much simpler. There's a lot of work that goes into the colour therory used in games - not that making it in black and white, makes it a walk in the park for the artists - and if you can "skip" that part, it probably helps with the development as a whole.

Does that make it pretentious? No. Artsy? Sure. Bad? Most certainly not.

@geekbot said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Quick question: Who gives a shit?

Also your lame attempt at asking us to explain something (that even you don't know about) while refusing to accept obvious answers is sort of sad.

Wow, defensive much? Also not how he didn't answer the question. Hah.

Well, I could give you a couple of reasons:

First of all, and the most obvious to me is for game play purposes. You're safe in the light, you're not where it's dark. One could even go as far as saying the mechanics are pretty "black and white" so why muddle it up with colours? Sure making it black and white certainly adds an esthetic appeal, but adding colour wouldn't add to the game play; in fact, I would say in this instance it would detract from the experience by taking focus away from what really matters: the puzzle solving. The stark contrast of black and white make it really easy to tell where you can and can't go.

And if that's not good enough for you, this was also developed by a small indie team, which means they more than likely had limited assets (i.e. time, money, people) so if you can get your art team to stick to only black and white, it should help make development as a whole much simpler. There's a lot of work that goes into the colour therory used in games - not that making it in black and white, makes it a walk in the park for the artists - and if you can "skip" that part, it probably helps with the development as a whole.

Does that make it pretentious? No. Artsy? Sure. Bad? Most certainly not.

You can have colors and still have shadow. And are you really saying they couldn't afford color? Really? Come on, they did it for the aesthetic alone. Not that there's anything wrong with being pretentious. I just think it's really boring to do an indie game in black and white. Might as well have made everything look 8-bit, too.

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Simple, its an easier visual style to convey. You're only dealing with two tones instead of a whole variety of colors. It makes the visual style more cohesive and is immediately striking. Print making uses a variety of inks and hard cuts to create similar looks. Black and white is also just its own style, black and white comics rely specifically on line art and heavy shadow for plenty of similar reasons.

@gladspooky said:

@geekbot said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@gladspooky said:

@Xeirus said:

@Zippedbinders said:

@Scarabus said:

Seems a bit too dark and pretentious, without being particularly esthetically pleasing like, say, a Braid or a Limbo. Think I'll pass.

Pretentious? I'm really not sure where you're excavating that kind of info. All I saw was a series of black and white puzzle rooms.

I'd also argue that it has just as much aesthetics and visual personality as something like Limbo. That game goes for silhouettes and this goes for more of a black and white comic/print making look.

Anything indie that people don't like gets called pretentious, I think that's hilarious.

Quick question: Why is it in black and white?

Now answer without talking about old movies or still photography or the struggles between light and dark.

Quick question: Who gives a shit?

Also your lame attempt at asking us to explain something (that even you don't know about) while refusing to accept obvious answers is sort of sad.

Wow, defensive much? Also not how he didn't answer the question. Hah.

Well, I could give you a couple of reasons:

First of all, and the most obvious to me is for game play purposes. You're safe in the light, you're not where it's dark. One could even go as far as saying the mechanics are pretty "black and white" so why muddle it up with colours? Sure making it black and white certainly adds an esthetic appeal, but adding colour wouldn't add to the game play; in fact, I would say in this instance it would detract from the experience by taking focus away from what really matters: the puzzle solving. The stark contrast of black and white make it really easy to tell where you can and can't go.

And if that's not good enough for you, this was also developed by a small indie team, which means they more than likely had limited assets (i.e. time, money, people) so if you can get your art team to stick to only black and white, it should help make development as a whole much simpler. There's a lot of work that goes into the colour therory used in games - not that making it in black and white, makes it a walk in the park for the artists - and if you can "skip" that part, it probably helps with the development as a whole.

Does that make it pretentious? No. Artsy? Sure. Bad? Most certainly not.

You can have colors and still have shadow. And are you really saying they couldn't afford color? Really? Come on, they did it for the aesthetic alone. Not that there's anything wrong with being pretentious. I just think it's really boring to do an indie game in black and white. Might as well have made everything look 8-bit, too.

"You can have colors and still have shadow."

- True, but that just complicates things.

"And are you really saying they couldn't afford color?"

- No. I think you misunderstand my point.

"Really?"

- Yes. Really.

"Come on, they did it for the aesthetic alone."

- That's possible, but there's really no way to know for sure. Smart developers rarely do something purely for esthetic reasons though.

"I just think it's really boring to do an indie game in black and white."

- You're entitled to your opinion.

"Might as well have made everything look 8-bit, too."

- They could have. It certainly would have made the visuals simpler and could in theory help streamline the puzzle solving, but I think what they did by making it only black and white helped serve their purpose well enough. :)

Tyler Glaiel, the genius behind this game is from my hometown, I think that's pretty awesome.

"Pretentious" seems to be the go-to word to describe indie games that are low on bells and whistles, when in fact they are just low-budget, low-manpower efforts which require simple, solid atmosphere or mechanics to accomplish their goals.

If you don't like the game, that's cool. But don't just attribute words to it or the developer when you're just trying to justify your dislike.

@murisan said:

@Antihippy said:

Is it just me or is the sound mix much louder than usual?

I like it. Seems more in line with most of the other things on my system. I usually have to turn the volume up a bit more for GB stuff.

Yeah I'm a big fan. I used to have to turn my volume all the way up to hear them clearly. According to the volume mixer the sound is very close to system level now.

As for the game, I'm pretty tired of 2d puzzle platformers...WITH A TWIST, but this seems cool enough.