Quick Look: Dungeon Defenders

@project343:

You know anything about the 2 locked classes? The Barbarian and the something, oh and also see you around on the PC version ;).

@louiedog said:

@sear said:

I like how Sanctum started the "trend" but nobody on Giant Bomb seems aware of it because it's not on XBox LIVE.  Ah, consoles.  It's also colossally better than Orcs Must Die, which bored me to tears about 2 minutes in. That said, Dungeon Defenders actually looks pretty good and I know even a bunch of people who are normally quite :monocle: about things enjoy it, so I might have to take a look.

Who are you referring to when you say nobody on Giant Bomb is aware of it? There was a Quick Look back in May. I'd also like to point out that Dungeon Defenders came out on iOS and Android months before Sanctum was released.

Fair enough about the Sanctum Quick Look, didn't realise it was there.  It's just that they've been talking about tower defense games lately a fair bit and haven't mentioned it once, even though I haven't seen anything that is even remotely as interesting or replayable.

Shitty wizard... Swizard? Like the one in Torchlight?

@TwoLines: I dunno, I beat Torchlight with the wizard pretty easy. I specced him into the pet tree and just let them kill everything. It was the most easy mode class I've ever played

@UnrealDP: I know absolutely nothing. Hopefully they'll release a DLC expansion for the game--including some more maps and those two classes. Will gladly pay $5 for it.

And boy, am I ever curious about that last one. I mean, Barbarian... whatevs. But that last one looks like a crazy inventor lady, judging by the silhouette.

@Leekspin: Heh, I meant the enchanter that fucks up every tenth time he powers your weapon.

@TwoLines said:

Shitty wizard... Swizard? Like the one in Torchlight?

THE WIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRD

I think part of Brad's problem with the wizard guy is that he's playing this more like an action game than a tower defence game. He's not really gathering every bit of mana and laying down towers effectively. He's just running around swinging his sword madly (which is fine, just a different play-style). The wizard guy has way better 'towers' than the melee knight class he's playing here. If you lay down towers properly you can beat the first 4 waves of that map without even having to shoot anything with the wizard... Also the wizard has a secondary attack that does a bunch of AoE damage around him... I assume he never even used the secondary attack... Not really Brad's fault for missing this stuff though, the game doesn't exactly let you know about any of these things clearly.

"Like an Option in Gradius"

I smiled at that.

Is this game worth getting if you are only going to play by yourself?

I really don't like the artstyle of this game for some reason.

The UI & Font smack of Torchlight really hard

I think apprentice and squire are of the same skill level to be honest, however i do prefer fighting as a squire, I also recgnise swords from other games.

I played the demo, found it kinda boring.

Brad you make me cry watching you play. Why would you put the shooty turrets in FRONT of the walls?!

@I_smell said:

@TwoLines said:

Shitty wizard... Swizard? Like the one in Torchlight?

THE WIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRD

Baboo

Did they even realize that this is a tower defense game? Pretty much just showed off the art style and the melee combat part of the game, skipping past all of the tower defense part.

With only one person, Brad, you most certainly don't want to see the Ogre. They suck so hard.

Painful to hear Brad talk and see Patrick play the apprentice. It's the easiest class if you have any kind of understanding how a TD game works. Hint: towers.

Played for a few hours on steam last night. Had a ton of fun. Took a few rounds but once i got a good group together its crazy.

I like how they didn't even try to upgrade their towers. In a Tower Defense game.

Wow! Brad sucks.

@Matoya said:

@I_smell said:

@TwoLines said:

Shitty wizard... Swizard? Like the one in Torchlight?

THE WIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRD

Baboo

Indeed. Videeooo gaaaames.

Click the right stick in to shoot? What?

I just wanted to say that the wizard is a fine starting class. I started with him and he was just fine.

I would be willing to bet that Brad horded all his mana instead of investing it in towers. A wall(and you don't really need this) and a couple towers at the choke points and you will rape every wave EASILY. Try starting with the huntress now she is hard.

I really want to like this game. I pre-ordered it on Steam for the fun pre-order TF2 goodies.

So far, I feel like Orcs Must Die is a better defense game, overall, but it is only single player.

Dungeon Defenders is a more in-depth, long-term experience and co-op is a damn nice option to have. However, I've played it 3 times in the last 3 days... and each time i fire the game back up my character(s) are missing. I'm bored of doing the first level over and over... how in the hell are you supposed to save your character?

@Slayergnome:So I finished watching the video, and build 3 walls and put a ranged turret infront of it.... Yea I can definatly see why you had trouble with the wizard, they assumed u had some tower defense experiance before hand honest mistake.

@Wandrecanada said:

Brad you make me cry watching you play. Why would you put the shooty turrets in FRONT of the walls?!

To protect his walls from taking damage of course. :)

God, I adore this game. So gooood.

It looks like this game NEEDS multiple players. I tried the demo solo, and found it incredibly tedious.

This looks pretty cool. I'll have to pick it up when there's a good sale. Too much stuff to play right now.

2 minutes in MS paint to summarize a 30+ minute Quick Look! Also, Brad, try CUSTOM GAME some time! That said, you know I still love you, babeh.

Would you guys prefer the video be twice as long while I sold all my previous defenses and remade everything? The clunky, plodding interface is one of my major complaints about this game and I didn't want to continue slogging through it just to drag things out unnecessarily.

I made plenty of towers behind walls when playing this game in my off-time, and it didn't help much. Even building as many of the wizard's basic tower as I had mana for, the later waves still overwhelmed my defenses. The wizard class at low level feels underpowered and makes a bad first impression. Deal with it!

@Brad: Any time you ask "Would you like the quick look to be twice as long?" I respond with a hearty yell of "Hell yes!"

I WANT TO CONSUME MEDIA.

I really want to like this game. I pre-ordered it on Steam for the fun pre-order TF2 goodies.

So far, I feel like Orcs Must Die is a better defense game, overall, but it is only single player.

Dungeon Defenders is a more in-depth, long-term experience and co-op is a damn nice option to have. However, I've played it 3 times in the last 3 days... and each time i fire the game back up my character(s) are missing. I'm bored of doing the first level over and over... how in the hell are you supposed to save your character?

Great, another tower defense game with a generic-ass cartoony fantasy aesthetic.

Video game developers have no imagination.

@Brad: Also! If you haven't yet, I really recommend doing the Full Tutorial. It explains a couple things you may have missed, such as the ability to build towers mid-battle, that loot is outlined with a box in red, yellow or green (Downgrade, sidegrade, upgrade.) so you don't have to wait for the thumb thing to pop up (Though later on you just grab whatever cause shit gets so crazy.) and stuff like that. I actually found the interface to be pretty pleasant to use in this game once I played the tutorial.

Instantly intuitive? Nah... but once you get a basic grasp for it, it's easy. For example, you can TAP RB (Not hold!) to bring up your wheel, and just flick the stick in whatever direction, no holding is necessary on any of that stuff.

I know you're not here for a lecture on the game mechanics, but it makes a lot of things really friendly, such as the ability to lock your gear (That's why you couldn't sell one of your items.) so that you never accidentally sell or trade it, unlocking and locking is both free and instant. You're right in that the Squire is by far the best class early on, as posts on the forums will obviously allude to (The devs say that SQUIRE is supposed to be the novice class, not the Apprentice, not sure how they screwed up that one.) and that in later game, all the classes are much more balanced. Of course, it was instantly argued back that the game should be fun for ALL classes right off the bat, but I enjoyed my Apprentice a lot. The Monk, however, I find to be the most fun.

Definitely play the game with friends. Randoms are alright, but playing with friends really brings it all together. You can all be Squires if you want! The game is really deep, and really fun, I hope you stick with it and enjoy it because it's a real blast. There's a LOT of unexpected stuff in the game, and the Ogre you almost saw was just the tip of the iceberg!

Played this for at least 4 hours with a friend last night. It's so damn good, and challenging too! I am in looooove with my tier-3 upgraded spikewalls and demonic greatsword on my squire.

i never had any problems with the interface or anything

but i play on pc so

The game starts off soft but really ramps up when you level up quite a bit. I have a 28 squire and he devastates. The first 10 levels are pretty boring, but after that it is great. I recommend going to insane difficulty on the first level at around lvl 12. You can get to lvl 20 in two or three games of that.

You can tell if an item is better or worse by looking at the colour of the box around it!

You don't need to wait for the pop up every time!

This game has a game-breaking bug on PS3 where if you turn on your system with the BT remote, you won't be able to play DD with a DS3 or Sixaxis controller. You have to restart your system and use a controller to turn it on to be able to move your character around. I'll consider buying the game when they fix that and have a sale since this is the only game I've seen have that issue.

This looks incredibly boring compared to Orcs Must Die or Trenched/Iron Brigade

@Stubee said:

This looks incredibly boring compared to Orcs Must Die or Trenched/Iron Brigade

Unfortunately for you it's far superior to both and this Quick Look just didn't show that off since it was single-player on baby levels on what was clearly easy difficulty. So now you have to go spend $15! Trust me, you'll like it.

What is up with the camera going to look straight down on his head? Annoying as hell, I hope that's not happening in the PC version.

EDIT : I dont understand why they don't have people do these QL who know how to play that type of game.

looks fun. tower defense is fun to play every now and then. my favorite though is pixel junk monsters.

Having played the Orce Must Die demo on Steam literally MINUTES before watching this, the similarities are kind of glaring. Looks fun though. I almost got the iOS version, but I haer that it controls like ass.

Ok I played the demo. I don't know what you guys were playing but the Wizard is not bad. Maybe it's the X-box version? I found it easy to spam his staff attack and kill guys. However the game blows.

It's a great game and fun online. Shame the tutorial is poor on explaining that you can lock/unlock items to keep them safely kept in inventory. As well as the SELL ALL BUTTON that Brad missed. So much needs to be explained by the devs I don't know how they left out so much. Really hurts the game.

this games font is just like Torchilight's