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Quick Look: Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword

We return to the world of Mount & Blade only to find that mounts and blades still rule the realm.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

May. 7 2011

Cast: Dave, Vinny

Posted by: Vinny

219 Comments

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@Styl3s said:
" That's it.. im building a pc to play this game.Anyone know a good PC i can build for 600-800 bucks? "
literally ANYTHING can run this game..
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@Beforet said:
" This game is so janky looking, but at the same time it is such a PC-ass PC game. There's something compelling about all of it. "
It's made by 6 dudes in Turkey so... yeeeaah.
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@eezo said:
" @Styl3s said:
" That's it.. im building a pc to play this game.Anyone know a good PC i can build for 600-800 bucks? "
literally ANYTHING can run this game.. "
Apparently not because my laptop can't run it, but i can run WOW, SC2 and CSS/TF2.
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Mount & Blade never looks great to me. Can anyone explain what the appeal is?

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I love you Dave, but you really make this game seem boring. 


Edit: Dave said that I'd say it was a bad quick look, Damn Hes good...
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I played the base game of this for about a good week or two straight and loved the hell out of it, but at some point I hit a wall and hit stopped being fun instantly. Eventually I saw through the over map and figured out how to game the system to get the best everything and I was unstoppable at that point. I really wish they would add more depth to the world map and that part of the game, as I was still enjoying the combat after all the hours I put into it as much as I did at the start, but the game just be came too binary for me and it lost so much of its appeal.

I really hope a studio with a better pedigree takes the ideas from this game and runs with it. If it was fleshed out and had some real production values put into it this could be such an amazing game.
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@Chirag4 said:
" Mount & Blade never looks great to me. Can anyone explain what the appeal is? "
The appeal is that it's fun! I haven't played much of it myself, so I can't really speak about the specifics, but this kind of open world, sandbox, non-fixed economy game is always great. The kind where you can benefit different factions, save towns or raid them and capture them for your own needs, be a trader or a warrior or a pirate, run errands for kingdoms to help them take over the world, or try to rule everything for yourself, capturing equipment, building armies... Always really fun to play with.

As for the multiplayer and the combat, it's strangely.. I don't know... realistic? You feel very powerful and very vulnerable at the same time, and it feels like the interplay between different types of soldiers and weapons is very much rooted in reality. The combat is hectic because it's so very tactical. Every attack is blockable, but you have to block in a specific direction, and if the attacker feigns to trick you into opening your guard and you block the wrong way, you're screwed. Horse combat is really tactile, with downhills giving you a speed advantage, and speed giving you a bonus to attack damage but also making it harder to hit enemies... unless you have a lance, which is perfect for pinning dudes on the ground, but then if you find yourself without a horse, you're worthless...

Like they said at the end of the quick look, there's no other game out there that plays like this. That's the appeal.
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I quite like how the guns mix things up.

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@Mikemcn said:
" I love you Dave, but you really make this game seem boring.  "
Maybe because it is boring? no matter how many videos i look at for Mount & Blade it looks real boring.
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First Universe Sandbox and now this? PC gaming pushing the industry forward! /trolling

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lol nice warcry Dave

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i feel this quick look is still going on somewhere, those two just couldn't put it down


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Hahaha :P No vinny, this isnt randomly generated, its an actual map of... u guessed it, Eastern Europe!

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Mount and Blade: Warband stole my life recently.  Especially with Crpg mod and Diplomacy mod.

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The people have spoken... and Giant Bomb delivers!

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@pornstorestiffi said:
" @Mikemcn said:
" I love you Dave, but you really make this game seem boring.  "
Maybe because it is boring? no matter how many videos i look at for Mount & Blade it looks real boring. "
I'd choose it over Mass Effect or Call of Duty any day. You need to play it to understand it, which is why Dave said Mount and Blade players are going to think its a terrible Quick Look. 
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Vinny makes every quicklook better.I wanted to see that horse go up the ladder too!

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It is much easier to kill people with a sword on your horse in first person.

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Dave doesn't even know how to couch his lance. Or that lances suck on ground.

Dave this is the worst Mount and Blade quick look SHAAAAAME

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@Olivaw said:
" Dave doesn't even know how to couch his lance. Or that lances suck on ground.Dave this is the worst Mount and Blade quick look SHAAAAAME "
It's the only one I've seen so technically it's the best.
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@Rox360 said:
" @Chirag4 said:
" Mount & Blade never looks great to me. Can anyone explain what the appeal is? "

Like they said at the end of the quick look, there's no other game out there that plays like this. That's the appeal. "
^ this. This game just reeks of creativity and it plays well. Graphics may be ridiculously low-budget but everything else is so fun. And mods.
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I need dissuasion to prevent me from buying this...

Ah who am I kidding I'll wait till it goes on sale for $5
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@DarkbeatDK said:
" First Universe Sandbox and now this? PC gaming pushing the industry forward! /trolling "
1 dude and 6 dudes respectivelly who made those games because they just wanted to make their own thing. Making games for consoles means ripping off others so you can cash in on borderline ADD kiddies.  /theturth
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Mustaches and Muskets is gonna be my new Renaissance Folk Metal Band

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*ghostly* Remember... the hotkeys...
ctrl+space to make time move forward on the map. Backspace in battle to bring up a tactical map.

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@Krixok said:
" Gonna buy the complete M&B pack from steam for $50. Warband looked great when it came out, but I was too busy to get it at the time. "
Dang that is pricey. Steam just had the complete pack on sale a week ago for $20.
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Man...Dave is freaking terrible

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So fucking clunky.

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I like the premise of the game, but the janky gameplay and the last-last-gen presentation are a bit too much for me to get past.


I'd love to see a real publisher get a hold of this game, and put some money behind it.

- Scott
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Mount and Blade is really good despite how it may look on first appearance. With some real polish, better production values and what not it could be amazing.

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My favourite kind of Quicklook--a Dave PC quicklook. I wish they'd do more of these types of videos, but I'd assume I'm a minority.

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@ryanwho said:
" So fucking clunky. "
You remind me of the people who whine about how mods to games don't have the same polish as multi-million AAA games. Connect the fucking dots.
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dave is so into it

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@mbr said:

" @ryanwho said:

" So fucking clunky. "

You remind me of the people who whine about how mods to games don't have the same polish as multi-million AAA games. Connect the fucking dots. "
So clunky. You don't need an army of devs to get your proof of concept working. This is a sequel, full priced, and it barely succeeds as a tech demo. Fucking. Clunky. I don't care if its ugly, the mechanics are jank. You want to compare a full priced game to free mods, its your right to be a retard.
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@Krixok said:
" Gonna buy the complete M&B pack from steam for $50. Warband looked great when it came out, but I was too busy to get it at the time. "
Don't. Just get the newest one. There is no reason to play any of the older ones. The newst one is the exact same thing as the previous one, but with more improvements.
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This game is a lot of fun!

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@ryanwho said:
" @mbr said:

" @ryanwho said:

" So fucking clunky. "

You remind me of the people who whine about how mods to games don't have the same polish as multi-million AAA games. Connect the fucking dots. "
So clunky. You don't need an army of devs to get your proof of concept working. This is a sequel, full priced, and it barely succeeds as a tech demo. Fucking. Clunky. I don't care if its ugly, the mechanics are jank. "
15 dollars is hardly a lot to pay
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@damnable_fiend said:

" @ryanwho said:

" @mbr said:

" @ryanwho said:

" So fucking clunky. "

You remind me of the people who whine about how mods to games don't have the same polish as multi-million AAA games. Connect the fucking dots. "
So clunky. You don't need an army of devs to get your proof of concept working. This is a sequel, full priced, and it barely succeeds as a tech demo. Fucking. Clunky. I don't care if its ugly, the mechanics are jank. "
15 dollars is hardly a lot to pay "
Okay. There are less clunky games for that price and there are less clunky games for that size dev team. I just played through Anomaly, a 15 dollar game with a very small team and limited budget and it was a good game. I'm not comparing this game to a triple A game, I'm just making an observation. Shit's clunky. Opinions, people have them. I don't care how many qualifiers you tack onto the game, it doesn't change an opinion. 
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Mordecai needs his gat you punk-ass bitch!

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This makes me want to play Mount and Blade, but more than that I think it makes me want to play Pirates. The combat in this game really intrigues me though, I want to give it a shot.

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@ryanwho said:
" @damnable_fiend said:

" @ryanwho said:

" @mbr said:

" @ryanwho said:

" So fucking clunky. "

You remind me of the people who whine about how mods to games don't have the same polish as multi-million AAA games. Connect the fucking dots. "
So clunky. You don't need an army of devs to get your proof of concept working. This is a sequel, full priced, and it barely succeeds as a tech demo. Fucking. Clunky. I don't care if its ugly, the mechanics are jank. "
15 dollars is hardly a lot to pay "
Okay. There are less clunky games for that price and there are less clunky games for that size dev team. I just played through Anomaly, a 15 dollar game with a very small team and limited budget and it was a good game. I'm not comparing this game to a triple A game, I'm just making an observation. Shit's clunky. Opinions, people have them. I don't care how many qualifiers you tack onto the game, it doesn't change an opinion.  "
Every man for himself. Your opinion don't mean shit. Welcome to the world.
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The developers should probably focus purely on making the combat work cleanly instead of trying to do everything and succeed at nothing.  The lack of polish is evident that they chose quantity rather than quality.

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Hah, calm down. Look, if you've decided anything that costs 15 dollars or less doesn't need to actually be functional to be appreciated, that's your own deal. A free sample of shitty food is still shitty food, even for the price. But the fact is, plenty of low budget games are actually fun to play, and work like they should. So being low budget isn't some far reaching shield against any kind of problem with the game.

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I would totally watch a short episode each week with the adventures of Mordekai. Like a short endurance run.
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Whenever I hear "Mount and Blade," I always think "Mountain Blade." 

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@ryanwho: Nothing against Dave, I love the guy, but you can easily show this game without it looking janky. (As janky maybe) It's actually very good and the controls make complete sense, it's one of those games which looks terrible when you are disconnected from playing it and also when you aren't very good at it, sorry Dave. The first time I played it I thought it was kind of bad, but after a while you realise that it is just pure fun to play. I can totally understand your opinions when based on this QL, the game just works nothing more, nothing less.
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Get a shield Dave!!!

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Mount & Musket is actually better then this, and it's a damn mod;



  
  
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Mount and Blade: Warband in my opinion is better. There is a strong multiplayer community and the mods people have made and are still making are insane. I'm usually playing the Mount and Musket mod and participate in huge 100vs100 line battles online.