Quick Look: Vessel

Seems like a pretty cool game. Gonna add it to my steam wishlist.

@Autechresaint said:

Jon Hopkin's music is awesome..hope this gets more people into his past work.

Amen to that. It was these guys through whom I discovered him after using 'Lost in thought' for their first trailer and I've absolutely adored him ever since. I got Contact Note for Christmas which is what this soundtrack seems to be mostly using, but his other album Opalescent which is one of my all-time favourites might also be in there.

The game looks great. I will definitely pick it up at some point. Steam wishlisted.

Man, this game looks quite good. I really enjoyed this quick look. Thanks, guys!

This looks hella cool.

The puzzle side of the game looks fucking awesome.

The controls though look horrendous and that's really off putting for me. If I know the solution to the puzzle and the only thing stopping me completing it is the fact that the controls are horrid it's just not good enough.

Will probably pick this up at some point but got other stuff to play right now anyway.

Let the bitching about Brad's playing (hopefully not) begin!

This looks really cool, and I love the music.

Imagine if something like this were done with- oh... ValvE already did that.

This looks like the best pee simulator since Mario Sunshine.

Fluid dynamics includes gases, as gases and liquids are both fluids, BRAD.

That hot air balloon thinks Oscar Wilde rendered himself outmoded when he adopted Stoicism at a time when he knew the elite would grandfather him in as a venerated neo-Hellenic sage.

I love it when the GB crew finds games like these on Steam that I never heard of. And Brad....thank god you QL these with Vinny. You are terrible :)

Never, EVER QL a puzzly game solo, please. You know that feeling you get when you're playing and not knowing what to do and the entire internet is screaming at their monitor because they can see what to do? Yeah, this is one of those times. I love you Brad, but man - you do some painful QLs...

@brad : "I wish there were a dotted line, so they could remove some of the trial and error."

You're kidding me right? Do you just want to walk right through it? It's a puzzle game, puzzle games require trial and error. Lazy ass gamers.

Something tells me that if they weren't using a X360 controller they might not have so many problems with trying to make small incremental movements.

@gladspooky said:

Yo, Brad, most people try to figure out what their goal in a puzzle is, first, instead of just picking random aspects of the puzzle and being like, "This Rubik's cube? I'm twisting it? Is this working? What if I get three different colors in a line? Does that do anything? I'm gonna keep doing that until something happens."

So, what, if you had a rubik's cube you'd just sit there and stare at it and plot out all your moves to the end before you even touch the thing? Well, that's cool I guess ... but I wouldn't speak for what most people would do or which way is superior by whatever judgement. Trail and error, interacting and playing with things to see what happens is a perfectly valid way to play. Maybe it's just fun to go into a room and shoot water around the place for a bit instead of standing there figuring out exactly what to do before moving or touching anything.

@Coreymw said:

@brad : "I wish there were a dotted line, so they could remove some of the trial and error."

You're kidding me right? Do you just want to walk right through it? It's a puzzle game, puzzle games require trial and error. Lazy ass gamers.

The puzzle is working out what to do? Not spending ages fiddling with wheels to get the angle perfect once you've figured it out? Lazy like having a cross-hairs in portal ... what's the point of playing if you know exactly where the portals are going to end up ... so lazy.

This game looks really cool. I hope brad does a review, I'd like to know how long it lasts and what new mechanics will be introduced later on. At the moment the game is on my steam wishlist.

You the man Vinny!

@TyCobb said:

Wasn't that contraption from Super Mario Sunshine?

That's what I'm saying! Apparently the path to critical acceptance for FLUDD was to abandon the primary-colored plumber on a console and become a steampunk guy on PC.

This is using Jon Hopkins album 'In sides', to be specific the track 'Vessel' from the album.

ur right I do have great taste in music

Oh man, Brad missing his jump to the elevator and falling all the way down was hilarious. Thank you Bradley for these amazing moments.

TopHat Blimp!!!

That said, this game looks awesome.

Man, this game just kept getting cooler as the played through it. I really wanna play this.

Vinny: "Or at least a way to just hold down that button"

Gee, I wonder how you'd hold down a button in a game full of button-pushing automatons that can be created at will...

minor facepalm.

those animations are awful

Looks really awesome.

@gladspooky said:

Yo, Brad, most people try to figure out what their goal in a puzzle is, first, instead of just picking random aspects of the puzzle and being like, "This Rubik's cube? I'm twisting it? Is this working? What if I get three different colors in a line? Does that do anything? I'm gonna keep doing that until something happens."

Really?

Cause that's exactly how I approach every puzzle I encounter

@artofwar420 said:

Looks really awesome.

@Set said:

those animations are awful

@kozmo7 said:

This looks like the best pee simulator since Mario Sunshine.

Yup,Yup, and Yup.

I think I saw a video with machines like this over at Xhamster....

Not gonna lie, this game looks cool as hell.

The concept looks pretty neat, but I reeeeeally don't like the way the main character controls. It looks like he just gets caught on every surface and is really awkward.

@Coreymw said:

@brad : "I wish there were a dotted line, so they could remove some of the trial and error."

You're kidding me right? Do you just want to walk right through it? It's a puzzle game, puzzle games require trial and error. Lazy ass gamers.

Puzzle games should be about figuring out the proper steps to arrive at the goal/solution you want. Puzzle games should not be about ballparking the trajectory of a dodgy fluid dynamics system that has water immediately turn into small pellets. Brad has a point.

36 min 32 sec in I need a pee break

and unpause.

Looks great. Unfortunately I tend to start strong with these sort of games and after my first session or two, lose interest in starting it up again.

@BisonHero said:

@Coreymw said:

@brad : "I wish there were a dotted line, so they could remove some of the trial and error."

You're kidding me right? Do you just want to walk right through it? It's a puzzle game, puzzle games require trial and error. Lazy ass gamers.

Puzzle games should be about figuring out the proper steps to arrive at the goal/solution you want. Puzzle games should not be about ballparking the trajectory of a dodgy fluid dynamics system that has water immediately turn into small pellets. Brad has a point.

So in Portal, widely recognized as a fantastic game, you never misaligned a portal or made a bad jump because it was all about just figuring out the steps right? And Angry Birds would be improved by showing you a trajectory because that game is only about figuring out what to hit right?

Sorry, but you're wrong, dealing with "analog" mechanics like movement and alignment has a place in puzzle games. Besides, Vessel's fluid system isn't all that particularly difficult to deal with (speaking as a person who has actually played the game) and getting streams lined up correctly is part of the challenge and part of the fun, just like trying to get the trajectory right in Angry Birds or deftly maneuvering in Portal.

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By the way, about 3 hours in now and this game is great. The movement is ever so dodgy on occasion, but it's not that big a deal. It's no where near as critical that you have pixel perfect movement in this game as is compared to something like, say, Rayman Origins. Anyone who liked Braid or even games like Aquaria should pick this up.

@Sweetz: If you played through portal 2 you would know that there are frequent marks and signposts (not literal signposts btw) on where you should place your portals. Not to mention the surfaces where you can place portals are sometimes placed in a way so that you know where to align it.

@DarkbeatDK said:

I think I saw a video with machines like this over at Xhamster....

Wait, what?

this quicklook had my attention for all 40 or so minutes. looks good!

*Wessel

Here's an example of a QL that makes me buy a game.

@Antihippy said:

@Sweetz: If you played through portal 2 you would know that there are frequent marks and signposts (not literal signposts btw) on where you should place your portals. Not to mention the surfaces where you can place portals are sometimes placed in a way so that you know where to align it.

If I had played through Portal? Here's a great thing about Giant Bomb, you could have taken 30 seconds to look at my profile and game achievements to realize that I've played and completed both games and then perhaps you wouldn't be making baseless accusations. Yes, in the early levels do they really hold your hand with Portal placement. In later levels, especially in Portal 2 when you're trying to align light bridges or anti-grav streams, I found it's plenty easy to put a Portal at the wrong spot or make a bad jump and yet I didn't think there was any fault with the game for that.

Vessel isn't a strict puzzle game like Crazy Machines or something in that vein. It's a puzzle-platformer, and dealing with fuzzy mechanics is a part of the experience just like the other puzzle games with action elements. Aligning water streams really isn't as fiddly as Brad makes it look; and for the most part you have fluros stand on buttons so that the water stream itself is flowing and naturally acts as an aligning guide - like the part where they need to go between the 4 stream redirectors to get the nozzle part.

btw brad, gases are fluids...

@Porkellain said:

Here's an example of a QL that makes me buy a game.

Is it just me or are the sound effects really good?

I would play Burger Time with spike traps.

@gladspooky said:

Yo, Brad, most people try to figure out what their goal in a puzzle is, first, instead of just picking random aspects of the puzzle and being like, "This Rubik's cube? I'm twisting it? Is this working? What if I get three different colors in a line? Does that do anything? I'm gonna keep doing that until something happens."

What, and the rest of the people who aren't included in the qualifier "most" are wrong? Should they just be exterminated?

What is your point? Please explain.

This looks great!

There's something Amiga-ish about this, in a good way (most Amiga platformers had terrible controls), specifically something is reminding me of Harlequin I think.

someone is bad at playing games and its not vinny

that switch is probably for the end of the puzzle,  
..what am I suppose to do here? 
 
sigh...