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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 131

It's time to give thanks for all the great games we have to play and to also sharpen those knives for some Game of the Year... discussion. We've got that ongoing Battlefront II saga, some fun facts about Mario Odyssey that might be a spoiler, and Rock Band!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 24 2017

Posted by: Vinny

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My special podcast

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Woah, 3 hour Beastcast.

The DJ Hero discussion reminded me of this incredible mix from the first game.

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WOOF!

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Dan doesn't seem to understand the concept of "metaphor" and it's kind of worrying.

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@melonpan said:

Dan doesn't seem to understand the concept of "metaphor" and it's kind of worrying.

He is a cartoon boy, worrying about it will give you an aneurysm.

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11 minutes in and I think Dan's brain broke discussing cookie dough.

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Today, I give thanks for the Beastcast.

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Make sure to skip the Hand of Fate segment if you want to stay happy

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Grand unified theory of the physical universe? Easy stuff. Does god exist? Pfft. Obvious.

Dan asks the question that's truly baffled humankind for centuries... how does D&D work??

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@melonpan said:

Dan doesn't seem to understand the concept of "metaphor" and it's kind of worrying.

Rocket Raccoon: [about Drax] His people are completely literal. Metaphors go over his head.

Drax the Destroyer: *Nothing* goes over my head...! My reflexes are too fast, I would catch it.

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Some fun facts about Mario Odyssey that might be a spoiler

Thx for the heads up @vinny :)

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I have a billion questions that I don't understand...

-Dan J. Ryckert

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I love Dan Ryckert.

Night in the Woods is hipster nonsense.

Nier Automata is a bad video game.

Boom.

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I love Dan Ryckert.

Night in the Woods is hipster nonsense.

Nier Automata is a bad video game.

Boom.

Please, don't be a troll duder. It is never necessary.

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@matiaz_tapia:

Not being a troll. Just putting out some opinions. Sorry you disagree with them :P

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Studio MDHR said that they own the Cuphead IP, but the first Cuphead game would never release on non-Microsoft platforms.
Sounds like a Mass Effect 1 situation.

Also the first 15 minutes of this show were amazing.

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i can listen to Vinny try to explain things to Dan till the end of time.

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Really disappointed that nobody uttered the words "Clam Slam" during the Splatoon 2 segment.

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Studio MDHR said that they own the Cuphead IP, but the first Cuphead game would never release on non-Microsoft platforms.

Sounds like a Mass Effect 1 situation.

Also the first 15 minutes of this show were amazing.

Mass Effect did eventually get a digital release on PS3 in 2012. Sure, it was five years later, but still.

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I never thought I would say that, and I will be stoned to death here, but I agree with Dan on D&D roles and he mirrors my feeling on it. I can never understand what is going on and why would I throw a dice to get something happen. Maybe if I play it, I'll understand it but it just sound so bizarre when I hear Vinny talk about it

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Its Friday, day of the #blessedcast with another 3+ hours!

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Cuphead isn't coming to the Switch. As far as the "whiny-ness" about the BF2 outcry, I'm not going to really miss Jeff Bakalar the next couple weeks.

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@bsmittel: I’m not to this part of the podcast yet, but how different from Jeff G’s comments on the Bombcast (which I agree with) about “don’t throw a tantrum” are Bakalar’s thoughts?

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Jesus Christ, Dan. Pretend for a second second that you have an imagination. When you were a kid, did you ever pretend to be something that you aren't? News flash: you were roleplaying!!!! All that DnD did is take that roleplaying process and establish some rules so that you have structure and you can't simply say "actually I'm god and you all suck and die because I said so."

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@faridmon said:

I never thought I would say that, and I will be stoned to death here, but I agree with Dan on D&D roles and he mirrors my feeling on it. I can never understand what is going on and why would I throw a dice to get something happen. Maybe if I play it, I'll understand it but it just sound so bizarre when I hear Vinny talk about it

Have you played a video game where there is a weapon or an ability of some kind that has a certain percentage chance at doing something like landing a critical hit? That's the game rolling dice "to get something to happen." In many table top role playing games such as D&D, the dice rolls are simply surfaced and performed by the players instead of hidden and performed by an automated system.

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'Is microsoft a boner joke?' - Vincent Caravella. 2017

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@dirk_funk: I don't think anyone is saying you can't have opinions. However, when you say things like "night in the woods is hipster nonsense," your words can easily be interpreted as an insult to the people who like the game (or the people who created it).

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That D&D section was straight up embarassing. Most of Dan's issues with understanding reality come off as funny to me, if vexing, but at some point he's actually just being bad at his job.

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An unexpected treat.

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Could probably have a dedicated podcast for addressing Dan's many confusions.

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Beastly.

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Beastly.

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Oh, Dan "rough ryder" Ryckert is taking the spotlight again

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I'm 12 minutes into this podcast and I'm just SCREAMING

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After listening to this podcast; it finally happened. I stopped caring about Giant Bomb. I let my subscription lapse because of money issues, but now I just do not want to. I love Vinny, but he can only do so much. Onward to the SuperBestFriends Podcast! To actual fun times with a baby dwarf, MattMcMuscles, and Woolie the Woolies Strike Back!

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@danryckert If you wanna try and look this stuff up on your own, this series of blogposts on different types of tabletop roleplaying games was helpful to me. Here's a choice quote:

For people who play a lot of tabletop games, D&D has a very complicated status. It’s a big classic game beloved by countless players and is tied to the DNA of pretty much all interactive entertainment out there. It’s also carrying around forty years of baggage and sacred cows from the pre-Nintendo era. It’s not hard to find dedicated groups of roleplayers who play D&D exclusively and it’s not hard to find groups that won’t play it under any circumstances.

Here’s the thing to get out of the way right up front about D&D. It is, and always has been, all about the bullshit.

Essentially, there's a gradient of games that move from pure improv to games with hard rules for every minute detail of the setting, and D&D is on the complex side. In videogame terms, let's say it's some sort of visual novel or storytelling adventure game on one end and Divinity Original Sin or Etrian Odyssey on the other. Considering how much fun you had with the game you all played at Christmas compared to how rough the Pathfinder sessions were, I definitely think the storytelling games are more of your thing.

On a related note, I guess Vinny might like Valkyria Chronicles. It's similar to Dragon Age Origins in how it mixes the real time movement with dicerolls and pausing.

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I have recently gotten into Rock Band for the first time. I wanted to try Guitar Hero, but you can't get controllers for it anymore. Used Guitar Hero (I think IV or less) controllers are $300 on ebay. So we are losing that history... mainly because Guitar Hero had to use a specialized controller, rather than just a standard controller like Rock Band uses. You can find the old GH software cheap and available on amazon, probably because you are SoL unless you already have a controller. I wish they would patch GH so you could use Rock Band guitars with it / ie. standard controllers. The current Rock Band (cheap) guitars are really good, I think.

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I can't wait for next week's episode where Dan figures out that Brownies also have eggs! Also, never let Dan talk about Skate ever again, please and thank you.

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I would love a one time feature where Dan and Vinny bake cookies from scratch

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On the topic of 2B's design, Taro just wanted to make a character that people would really want to cosplay. There's no deeper meaning than that lol.

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@redhotchilimist: I take offense to being lumped together as the same level of comment as someone using the term “mansplaining”