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Unfinished: Killing Floor 2 04/21/2015

Dan and Jeff dress up in their favorite cool guy action movie gear and get to re-killing some zombies.

Sometimes we look at a game before it's done. When that's the case? Well... it must be Unfinished.

Apr. 23 2015

Cast: Jeff, Dan

Posted by: Jason

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Killing Floor 2

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You are already dead, again.

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"A dumb name for money"

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AWWW FUCK!

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Dr. Boss the Boss Doctor.

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I enjoyed the first one for quite a bit. I might pick this up eventually.

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Gotta love a team full of medics and pretty much no healing during the round.

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Love this game

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The first Killing Floor game is one of my favorite wave-based multiplayer games. I put in way more hours in KF than both L4D games combined.

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Gotta love a team full of medics and pretty much no healing during the round.

I've been playing KF2 a lot and I've noticed players healing each other happens way less frequently than it did in KF1.

I think it's a mixture of slower weapon swap speeds and worse hit detection on the healing syringe. In KF1 you could literally just aim your syringe in the general direction of a player and as long as they were in range it would connect. Now you have to aim directly at the player, wait for an arms raised ready animation, and then you can heal, and even then it doesn't work 100% of the time.

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@fzackm: Yeah, but all the medic weapons have an alt-fire healing dart and the auto aim is very generous for that, so you mostly don't have to use the syringe. Probably just a case of them all being new players.

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In the context of Killing Floor, everyone can throw their money to other people, to help players that join late in the game, so they can have powerful weapons for the difficult rounds.

I was surprised that Dan hadn't heard the term Dosh before.

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This game looks like hot garbage

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Did they remove the sharpshooter class?

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@jimipeppr: Not all the classes/perks are in the game yet, since it's early access. They'll be adding those, plus more maps and stuff as it gets closer to release.

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@jimipeppr: Maybe it was renamed to support, but I'm not 100% since I've yet to play it.

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Not sure when I last heard someone refer to money as dosh. I may have been in primary school.

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@jimipeppr said:

Did they remove the sharpshooter class?

Yeah, that was really the only thing that stuck out to me as someone who played a ton of the first one is there are 4 classes here instead of the previous 7 (also not here is firebug and demolition).

That assumes they stick with that through final release, which would be fine if they do as long as the classes are well done. But yeah, whether before release or afterward, there will be more classes I'm sure.

Also I'm glad to hear they like it. The first one wasn't amazing but it was a super solid and one I don't regret playing a lot. I look forward to playing it myself some day.

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Did they remove the sharpshooter class?

All of the classes from the previous game will be there as well as two new classes (one of them is another melee class apparently).

Also @danryckert when you use a weapon from another class, you'll gain xp but only for that specific class(same thing for welding, you only gain xp for suppoit when you do it).

Btw,hot tip against the boss, don't attack him when he's sucking the life out of a player because he is invicible when he does that, it's just better to heal the ally who got caught.

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Can someone who knows stuff about guns tell me what's up with that gun Dan was using? The magazine looks like it's for a rather small caliber round and doesn't look like what would go in a gun like that. Just looks really weird to me, as someone know doesn't know much about that sort of thing.

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Kind of a tough deal right now but definitely a buy for me when it has more content.

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That slow-mo shit needs to go. Other then that, looks like fun. I miss my L4D sessions.

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@lastly said:

Can someone who knows stuff about guns tell me what's up with that gun Dan was using? The magazine looks like it's for a rather small caliber round and doesn't look like what would go in a gun like that. Just looks really weird to me, as someone know doesn't know much about that sort of thing.

They call it the AR-15 'Varmint Rifle' and it uses 9mm rounds, so that's why the magazine is small.

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LOADSAMONEY

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I'm not one to complain about this kind of thing, but why do they always use controllers on pc first person shooters? Objectively the mouse is far better for fps then control sticks and pc games are designed with that in mind. Just strange, as it often seems to be detrimental in a game like killing floor where headshotting everything in quick succession in a row is pretty important.

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Walk in the door and get on the killing floor.

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Dan stop using a controller on a PC FPS, jesus christ!

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Looking forward to this release. KF1 was a surprise hit for me. Was even able to convince my friend to pick it up and had a lot of fun playing together. We hadn't done that since the old days of Counter-Strike.

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I look forward to the PS4 release. I need something to scratch that L4D itch.

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@nullset33 said:

@lastly said:

Can someone who knows stuff about guns tell me what's up with that gun Dan was using? The magazine looks like it's for a rather small caliber round and doesn't look like what would go in a gun like that. Just looks really weird to me, as someone know doesn't know much about that sort of thing.

They call it the AR-15 'Varmint Rifle' and it uses 9mm rounds, so that's why the magazine is small.

Its just their rendition of the colt SMG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_9mm_SMG

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Basically this

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Join survival map at level 1 and on top of that playing with a controller.......oh you better BELIEVE my jimmies were rustled.

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@jimmysmiths: Killing Floor 2 does have a generous console-like auto-aim for controllers so it isn't quite as bad. I played KF1 with a DS4 a few times as a couch experience and had to use mouse emulation that didn't work as well.

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Got the Deluxe addition the moment it went on sale. Killed the boss on hard for the first time an hour ago!!The game feels great and its perfect for 2-3 matches after work for me. Can't wait for more perks (classes), weapons and maps.

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Looks like the first game with better graphics

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Watching somebody play this with a controller is like watching someone play CS with a controller, it feels off. Seems nothing like it does with a mouse for some reason.

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@kryplixx: It's a staple of the Killing Floor series so it's not going anywhere.

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I've sunk in a lot of hours of KF1 and it's one of the most played games on my Mac. Considering they're making a Linux version over an OS X version I'll probably stick to KF1.

This looks great but it seems like they just added controller support, better gfx, and are officially calling the currency Dosh. Gameplay-wise, everything looks exactly the same as KF1. A few new enemy types would've been nice.

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Are there 50-person servers up yet?

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I fucking understand peoples peripheral preference for a game, but god fucking damn it. A controller for this game is just the stupidest thing ever.

I actually can't even stand watching a first person quick look with a controller being used, because the motion of it sickens me compared to a mouse.

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Yeah the zombie modes in CoD are really horrible. KF was not only around also, far longer than CoD zombies, but is a far better game.

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The two guys who "looks like they are from MASH" are probably french. Their avatars come from an old french comedy about WWII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_Where_Did_the_7th_Company_Get_to%3F

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I'm not one to complain about this kind of thing, but why do they always use controllers on pc first person shooters? Objectively the mouse is far better for fps then control sticks and pc games are designed with that in mind. Just strange, as it often seems to be detrimental in a game like killing floor where headshotting everything in quick succession in a row is pretty important.

As someone who uses controllers on PC fps's, it's not as detrimental as everyone makes it out to be. That, or I'm just better at video games than everyone else.

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Once you play hard mode the, AI behaviors and waves act A LOT differently and make each enemy type feel more intimidating.

I'd recommend it if this stuff feels too dry or stale compared to KF1. I feel they are also keeping a lot of the "new" stuff in the sequel hidden away for launch.

I feel this Quick Look should have been saved until launch

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@kryplixx said:

That slow-mo shit needs to go. Other then that, looks like fun. I miss my L4D sessions.

Why? Zed time is awesome.

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Dan playing KF2 with a controller and he's never played KF1 and the music is turned off? lol okay.

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Weird that he used a controller, not only is it worse than a mouse but pc shooters usually lack aim assist and playing with a mouse would be more useful to the consumer as every pc has a mouse and keyboard, a controller isn't representative of the pc experience.

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You earn xp from kills regardless of the weapon you use. The xp goes towards whatever class the guns belongs to. So if you use medic guns while a commando, you earn xp for the medic class, it just doesn't display on screen.