I remember that they've said that this is basically KOTOR3-7 or something like that in an interview a while back. In the KOTOR series the Sith were always a threat but there were usually characters saying that the Sith were just a sign of a much larger force looming in the background that was headed towards the galaxy. KOTOR2 suggests that dude from KOTOR1 (I forget your character's real name) left to confront that threat and I believe that at the end of KOTOR2, your main character leaves to take on this threat.

So I have one question: Does it seem like the unnamed threat will be addressed based off of what you've played so far?

It's the Emperor.

@Brodehouse: Yay for spoiler tags!

@Brodehouse: Oh, I know that's the case. I know all about the Sith Emperor. The thing is the OP doesn't and the OP wasn't asking who the threat was, only if the game addresses it. Straight up saying it's the Sith Emperor is definately spoiler tag worthy.

All you had to do was say, yes the game addresses it. Instead you acted like a lore whore and spoiled the story for someone because you already know the answer and want to show off.

@Brodehouse: You mean an Emperor like Palpatine? That's a let down. The prior games made it sound huge and like something beyond Jedi vs Sith but it's really just another Darth X dude causing trouble for the Jedi?

@Brodehouse: You mean an Emperor like Palpatine? That's a let down. The prior games made it sound huge and like something beyond Jedi vs Sith but it's really just another Darth X dude causing trouble for the Jedi?

@sickVisionz said:

@Brodehouse: You mean an Emperor like Palpatine? That's a let down. The prior games made it sound huge and like something beyond Jedi vs Sith but it's really just another Darth X dude causing trouble for the Jedi?

An Emperor, yes. But not an Emperor like Palpatine. They get into the emperor stuff some in the books that lead up to the launch of ToR. If you want to know some of the story details, I can throw them up in a spoiler tag for you. But regardless one thing I will say is that -

Plus, remember that Palpatine overthrew the Republic through almost nothing but manipulation and being a sneaky bastard. Whoever this Emperor is has shown a much bigger combination of brute force AND being a manipulative sneaky bastard. I think saying "Oh, he's just some dude" is probably selling him really short.

@project343 said:

@sickVisionz

@Brodehouse: You mean an Emperor like Palpatine? That's a let down. The prior games made it sound huge and like something beyond Jedi vs Sith but it's really just another Darth X dude causing trouble for the Jedi?

This new Emperor is unlike any other that I've heard of. I'd recommend reading the latest Revan novel for a full breakdown. All I'll say is that he's lived a thousand years and single-handedly destroyed all life on a planet with the force. It is suggested that the Jedi Knight story covers his death.

Darth Nihilus also had a power like that, and went down like a sucker. :p

@Jeust said:

Darth Nihilus also had a power like that...

I was going to say this but I though it might come off as overly negative. Since it's already out I'll also say that Malek/Revan in KOTOR1 were able to assemble an impossibly large Sith fleet/force without the Jedi being aware of it. KOTOR3-7 is really the premise of KOTOR1 with the bad guy from KOTOR2 and the whole giant evil lurking in the background that even the Sith were saying people should be afraid of and needs to be dealt with was just a Sith Lord.

I was thinking of checking this out and possibly getting a new PC if my laptop couldn't handle it (it barely runs Civ 5) but it sounds like the story is a rehash/remix of the first two games... and the story was the thing I was looking forward to the most.

@sickVisionz said:

@Jeust said:

Darth Nihilus also had a power like that...

I was going to say this but I though it might come off as overly negative. Since it's already out I'll also say that Malek/Revan in KOTOR1 were able to assemble an impossibly large Sith fleet/force without the Jedi being aware of it. KOTOR3-7 is really the premise of KOTOR1 with the bad guy from KOTOR2 and the whole giant evil lurking in the background that even the Sith were saying people should be afraid of and needs to be dealt with was just a Sith Lord.

I was thinking of checking this out and possibly getting a new PC if my laptop couldn't handle it (it barely runs Civ 5) but it sounds like the story is a rehash/remix of the first two games... and the story was the thing I was looking forward to the most.

I'm playing it, and the story is good. Each location has its plot and problems, and even if the end narrative is not that strong (I'm far from the end segment), the story has been very good and imaginative.

The interesting thing about this new Emperor is that the old ghosts of powerful Sith also hate the crap out of him. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

@Jeust said:

Darth Nihilus also had a power like that, and went down like a sucker. :p

Going to go ahead and spoil some things about the book...

Now to spoil what I've heard of the Jedi Knight story:

As someone who hasn't played Kotor (well, much), or read any books, or generally knows all that much about Star Wars, here's what I can elaborate on:

The story to the game has a lot of layers.

The first layer would be "side quests". These all have an over arching plot that take place on the planet, and even though they're "side quests", they all come together to form a beginning and an end, although a good portion of them can be taken interdependently, but also factor into the whole. For example, completing a secondary quest to, say, help some guy destroy a crane, will result in the final dialogue saying something like "We have secured this planet, thanks in no small part to you destroying a crane" or something like that.

The next layer would be your class quests. These form a good portion of your main story, and probably where the most intrigue comes from. It's very good, but each class is different and has their own story, and from what I've seen, this story ties into the next layer, but - at least at level 40 - aren't related to the games over all story, but are rather pieces of it.

Then there's the games over all story, that the previous layers all tie into. This is basically the tenuous piece between the republicans and imperials. The imperials are trying to start a war, I don't really know what the republicans are doing (having not played one), and that is the overarching story between the planets and class quests.

The Republic is just as guilty of making the cold war hot. Republic and the Imps hate the shit out of each other, they're both eager to start this war again.

@project343 said:

@Jeust said:

Darth Nihilus also had a power like that, and went down like a sucker. :p

Going to go ahead and spoil some things about the book...

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The Emperor uses a ritual and consumes all living things on his home planet, essentially draining it of force, and merges all those living things into his own soul. They describe his voice as having the sound of ten thousands voices.

As far as what happens in the book, The Exile (aka Meetra), Revan, and a Sith Lord all ally together to defeat the Emperor, and the Emperor wins. Meetra is murdered, Lord Scourge (the Sith Lord) becomes an immortal servant to the Emperor, and Revan is locked away in some cell where the Emperor constantly drains his life force. Many believe Revan is still alive in the point of the game, some 300 years later.

Now to spoil what I've heard of the Jedi Knight story:

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You eventually gain Lord Scourge as an ally and defeat the Emperor yourself.

Interesting. I had read something in those lines. I also read that the Jedi Consular would also fight the Emperor afterwards.

@Brodehouse said:

The Republic is just as guilty of making the cold war hot. Republic and the Imps hate the shit out of each other, they're both eager to start this war again.

Yup, the Republic works with a lot of nasty organizations (Hutts for example) and turns a blind eye. Parts of the game do get quite dark.