Tournaments over BagManForHire was the winner.

2. CursaKuma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7gN7oxMDwI&feature=channel_page (how ill win the tourney with balrog)

you might as well ban all the other unlockable characters

"Why the fuck are there banned characters?"

"DirrtyNinja said:

"Why the fuck are there banned characters?"

THANK you. There is absolutely nothing at all that indicates these characters have any reason to be banned....anyway, fuck it. I'll go find or host a real online tournament or something."

I'll sign up. My GT is MetPurifier.

When I saw this post title I was excited...then I was even more excited to see it was being held on Sunday, a day I could actually make.  No Gouken?  I'm out.

Maybe Gouken is banned because his name rhymes with "broken." That's the only thing I can think of.

im in GT: bagmanforhire

Hey like I said I might change the rules around . Most of the tournaments I play in ban the "Boss" characters. I wasn't really sure about akuma and gouken really figured I would see the reaction So with quite a few posts of people bitching guess I got my reactions. I have no problems with letting people use akuma and gouken, I do think personally think seth should be banned and will keep it that way.

Ok, I'm in if I can use Gouken.  GT in profile.

I've got to work. Do'h.

Well, banning Seth is still unnecessary given that he's got the stamina of a baby seal, but whatever. Most people know that, like Dan, he's hardly worth using, so I'm sure banning him won't matter one way or another.

EDIT: Gamertag is ii axxess ii

sorry walrus I made it on a Sunday cause I figured more people could make it.

I'll join, even though I'll most likely get owned first round.

GT: Digital447

"sorry walrus I made it on a Sunday cause I figured more people could make it."

Uh, Seth is middling at best.  His HP and stun are trash and his overall game is average.

"Uh, Seth is middling at best.  His HP and stun are trash and his overall game is average."

if you don't like it the simple choice is don't join.

It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

Hulk's 360 should be back this Monday.   If it doesn't immediately red ring as soon as it's taken out of the box this time Hulk will sign up.  But until then Hulk can't commit, but would really like to.  Especially since it's on a Sunday which is a perfect day for it.

"It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

My Cammy just devastated online...and that seems to be the only place it'll ever happen.  =  /

If MB signs up, y'all are fucked.

"

I just can't help but laugh excessively at the decision, that's all.

Reminds me of a tourney going on over at NikeTalk that has a "no cheesing" rule.

It's amusing to watch this stuff play out.

"if you don't like it the simple choice is don't join."

People will always find a reason to bitch,cry, and complain about something. I just wanted to throw a tourny have some fun and give someone a small reward. I never thought people would bitch about that this much. I'm guessing darkcatalyst probley uses seth or something.

Actually, I play Akuma, Abel, and Bison.

I just tend to laugh whenever I see unnecessary and misguided rules.

"jakob187 said:

"It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

My Cammy just devastated online...and that seems to be the only place it'll ever happen.  =  /

If MB signs up, y'all are fucked.

"

God dammit Jakob, now you've got me all worried. Would you say he's harder than Gouken on hardest difficulty? "

"Jolly_Lolly said:

"jakob187 said:

"It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

My Cammy just devastated online...and that seems to be the only place it'll ever happen.  =  /

If MB signs up, y'all are fucked.

"

God dammit Jakob, now you've got me all worried. Would you say he's harder than Gouken on hardest difficulty? "

Jolly_Lolly, remember when we played (MetPurifier, I was playing Cammy)? Well, consider that I have a really hard time against MB's Gouken."

"Jolly_Lolly said:

"jakob187 said:

"It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

My Cammy just devastated online...and that seems to be the only place it'll ever happen.  =  /

If MB signs up, y'all are fucked.

"

God dammit Jakob, now you've got me all worried. Would you say he's harder than Gouken on hardest difficulty? "

Jolly_Lolly, remember when we played (MetPurifier, I was playing Cammy)? Well, consider that I have a really hard time against MB's Gouken."

So what's going on.

Anyone else joining this tourney? let's get this show on the road.

i want to play against a Seth player, I never lost to one yet. I want to see a good one. Ban Dan, I hate to have someone record and youtube my defeat from a good Dan user. Dhalsim users are pricks also, they keep saying "Bigger than yours". I f*cken hate those guys! Oh, and f*ck Seth's stretchy arms too!

"PureRok said:

"Jolly_Lolly said:

"jakob187 said:

"It WOULD be when I'm working!!!

My Cammy just devastated online...and that seems to be the only place it'll ever happen.  =  /

If MB signs up, y'all are fucked.

"

God dammit Jakob, now you've got me all worried. Would you say he's harder than Gouken on hardest difficulty? "

Jolly_Lolly, remember when we played (MetPurifier, I was playing Cammy)? Well, consider that I have a really hard time against MB's Gouken."

Huh?? I didn't play any Cammy's oO"

Hell, put me in - GT: REDRUN

seth kind sucks '

If you are doing a tourney, you gotta do it right. Either ban all unlockables like "the pros" or set it to "take on all challengers". The home version of SF IV does not stray too far from the arcade cabinets we have been waiting to get our hands on here in the states for the longest. SF IV on the 360 and PS3 brought it even closer.  With all the unlockable characters, this version fells like a Champoinship Edition with all the tools (arcade stick not included) you need to challenge yourself to be the best and challenge the best.

Back to the topic in hand, here are three options that seem fair. Option 1: Banning all bosses would include the following: Sagat (SF Boss), Bison (SF II Boss), Akuma (SSF2T and SF4 Hidden Boss), Gouken (SF2 April Fool's Joke and SF4 Hidden Boss), and of course Seth (SF4 Final Boss). If you ban one, then might as well ban them all, to be safe. Option 2: No unlockable characters like the arcade cabinets. I need not to make that list, we all know who they are. Option 3: Allow all characters to play in the tourney and have the faith they are all balanced by movesets, stamina, speed and power. All players playing characters, even in mirror matches are not equal in skill. Common knowledge.

The only problem i see a major flaw in the tourney is that there is no strict rules addressing a problem we have online in ranked matches. We have people asking for a double blind option when we play so see less cheap tactics on the selection phase.

Solutions: Each player would register there character so no changing characters to handle another type of player. The pros chooses and register one character before the tourney starts as take on all challengers so there is no waiting to see who chooses what first. To make it right, players need to submit the one character they are going to play as, so the battle would be indisputable. This takes pride in the player's skill, win or lose, without hiding behind a character set for individual fights.

Please don't reply back as an angry forum troll. I understand if I don't like the rules, then I should not join. What was said above was just an observation on what had been done in the SF tourneys I had experienced in the past 15 years.

If you would accept me as part of the tourney, then my gamertag is REDRUN and I will play as Cammy.

Eh, I guess I'll tentatively put my name down.  I might pull out, but I'll give plenty of notice before-hand if that's the case.
Gamertag: Imperious Rix
And I'll be playing as either Chun Li or Vega.  Don't know quite yet.

"If you are doing a tourney, you gotta do it right. Either ban all unlockables like "the pros" or set it to "take on all challengers". The home version of SF IV does not stray too far from the arcade cabinets we have been waiting to get our hands on here in the states for the longest. SF IV on the 360 and PS3 brought it even closer.  With all the unlockable characters, this version fells like a Champoinship Edition with all the tools (arcade stick not included) you need to challenge yourself to be the best and challenge the best.Back to the topic in hand, here are three options that seem fair. Option 1: Banning all bosses would include the following: Sagat (SF Boss), Bison (SF II Boss), Akuma (SSF2T and SF4 Hidden Boss), Gouken (SF2 April Fool's Joke and SF4 Hidden Boss), and of course Seth (SF4 Final Boss). If you ban one, then might as well ban them all, to be safe. Option 2: No unlockable characters like the arcade cabinets. I need not to make that list, we all know who they are. Option 3: Allow all characters to play in the tourney and have the faith they are all balanced by movesets, stamina, speed and power. All players playing characters, even in mirror matches are not equal in skill. Common knowledge.The only problem i see a major flaw in the tourney is that there is no strict rules addressing a problem we have online in ranked matches. We have people asking for a double blind option when we play so see less cheap tactics on the selection phase.Solutions: Each player would register there character so no changing characters to handle another type of player. The pros chooses and register one character before the tourney starts as take on all challengers so there is no waiting to see who chooses what first. To make it right, players need to submit the one character they are going to play as, so the battle would be indisputable. This takes pride in the player's skill, win or lose, without hiding behind a character set for individual fights.Please don't reply back as an angry forum troll. I understand if I don't like the rules, then I should not join. What was said above was just an observation on what had been done in the SF tourneys I had experienced in the past 15 years.If you would accept me as part of the tourney, then my gamertag is REDRUN and I will play as Cammy."

I like the argument you made redrun. Hell maybe I went about the whole thing all wrong. This is my first time running a tournament and I'm just going off what rules have been for the online tournaments I have played in. But hey good thing about mistakes are you can learn from them.

Another suggestion, you need a lock in date and time so players need to take there time for there choices or changes. I would like to see the players play with pride like they always do and have faith in there skill and take on all challengers even when the odds are against them. Choosing one character to take on anyone of the others is the toughest thing to do, showing up to the fight is the easy part. I don't mind playing players who chooses Ken, Seth or Akuma. I just want a good fight.

edit*

I just want to add, these suggestions should be considered in the future events. Changing the rules now wouldn't be fair for all the current participants unless they all have their say.

Gambit, thanks for your input. We all have different backgrounds when it comes to any subject in hand. One thing for sure, we are all passionate about games. We would not be her if we were not.

Redrun There is a set date and time march 29th at 5:00 PM CST

interested to know how this turns out.
Gambit, best way to handle double-blind issue is to have players PM you their character pick, then post the list the day of the tourney. That way players can't counter-pick but still get to see the list beforehand to verify correct matchups.
also for future reference on banning chars - if EVO doesn't do it, you probably shouldn't either.

http://evo2k.com/?p=18

banned characters show up under "Rules:", check SF2 HD Remix for reference, it has one banned character.

Just got back from work. Who won, eh?

"Just got back from work. Who won, eh?"

Gambit,

Check out this site here http://gootecks.com/

Listen to the podcast, jump to 41:35 on the debate on Seth from the pros. I highly recommend you listen to the whole podcast from beginning to end. Good stuff on the debate.

You do have a valid point on banning Seth, but its not yet proven that Seth would be a problem in a tourney.

Registering one character is only really done in Japanese tournaments.  In most decent U.S. tournaments players are allowed to switch characters between matches.  Playing match-ups after losing your first match  is just as much of a valid strategy as switching from rushdown to turtling in the middle of a match when you realize one is not working.

As far as character banning for balance and what not, none of the unlockable characters are banworthy.  The only character in the game that's even in the discussion for banning is Sagat, and it's still too early to call for that.

im in Gamertag is halogu117

"Registering one character is only really done in Japanese tournaments.  In most decent U.S. tournaments players are allowed to switch characters between matches.  Playing match-ups after losing your first match  is just as much of a valid strategy as switching from rushdown to turtling in the middle of a match when you realize one is not working.As far as character banning for balance and what not, none of the unlockable characters are banworthy.  The only character in the game that's even in the discussion for banning is Sagat, and it's still too early to call for that."

"Registering one character is only really done in Japanese tournaments.  In most decent U.S. tournaments players are allowed to switch characters between matches.  Playing match-ups after losing your first match  is just as much of a valid strategy as switching from rushdown to turtling in the middle of a match when you realize one is not working.As far as character banning for balance and what not, none of the unlockable characters are banworthy.  The only character in the game that's even in the discussion for banning is Sagat, and it's still too early to call for that."