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    Valve Discusses Charging Customers Based on Popularity.

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    #1  Edited By metal_mills

    One of Gabe Newell's theoretical Steam payment methods would charge more for players that are awful people.

    There are a few standard payment models for videogames today that include retail, monthly fees, and microtransactions. Valve boss Gabe Newell recently called these models "broken," revealing that the company is looking into new ways of charging customers based on the customers themselves.

    In a lengthy interview with Develop, Newell said: "The industry has this broken model, which is one price for everyone. That's actually a bug, and it's something that we want to solve through our philosophy of how we create entertainment products."

    Rather than pricing a product based purely on what that product is worth, Newell talks about pricing a product based on what the customer is worth as well. "Some people, when they join a server, a ton of people will run with them," Newell continued. "Other people, when they join a server, will cause others to leave."

    "So, in practice, a really likable person in our community should get DotA 2 for free, because of past behavior in Team Fortress 2," Newell added. "Now, a real jerk that annoys everyone, they can still play, but a game is full price and they have to pay an extra hundred dollars if they want voice."

    Newell also went over how Valve is already charging high-value customers "negative" amounts, such as those that were paid royalties for creating Team Fortress 2 items. "Their cost for Team Fortress 2 is negative $20,000 per week," he said. "You're never going to see that in a retail store ... It's people who make hats get paid. People who are really popular play for less, or free."

    Could this be a method that actually reduces the number of people whose internet anonymity causes them to spout an endless number of obscenities and racially motivated comments just because they were gunned down by a sniper? It seems like it might. Not that internet jerks would disappear overnight, but money could be a strong motivator to make someone pat a fellow player on the back instead of tea-bagging him.


     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110056-Valve-Discusses-Charging-Customers-Based-on-Popularity


    So if you're popular and people like you. You get a free game. If you're an arsehole and ruin games foe people, you get charged more and even more for voice or chat. It seems...a bit strange. Interesting idea but I can't see it working. If they changed it into some kind of rewards program(be a positive member, get free stuff) that could be cool. 

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    #2  Edited By Seedofpower
    @Metal_Mills: Yeah I just read about this. I think its pretty crazy and if they find some way to pull it off, I'm totally down. I've got a clean record and being rewarded for it will be awesome.
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    #3  Edited By mikemcn

    How the hell would anyone ever make this work. 

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    #4  Edited By Rayfield

    Interesting idea but I can see it leading to all sorts of headaches from pissed off users. Such as HOW COME HE GOT FREE SHIT WHEN I BEEN GODDAMN GOOD TO YOU VALVE etc....
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    #5  Edited By Slaker117

    This sounds like a bad idea.

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    #7  Edited By manhattan_project

    If they can figure out a way to do it, I'm all for it.

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    #8  Edited By TotalEklypse

    This made me laugh a little. 

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    #9  Edited By laserbolts
    Yeah I don't see this working. Sounds like a pretty dumb idea to me.
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    #10  Edited By Dany

    This is never going to materialize into anything for any service

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    #11  Edited By Vexed

    I love the idea of charging obnoxious people extra to enable voice, but I don't see how it could be implemented properly.  You can't base it off player feedback.... I get  bad reviews on XBL just for being better than guys on the other team.

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    #12  Edited By zor

    I have no idea on how they would enforce this so it wouldn't turn into, "Well, that player just kick my butt, so i am going to write a nasty comment about them. And since i want a discount on games, i'll pretend to be semi-bad at this game, so the other team can win and write nice things about me."


    Personally, i think this sounds like a dumb idea. I would rather people just played the game they were playing, and not try to win brownie points with the community in order to get discounts.


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    #13  Edited By SlightConfuse

    that seems impractial 

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    #14  Edited By Aus_azn
    @Rayfield said:
    Interesting idea but I can see it leading to all sorts of headaches from pissed off users. Such as HOW COME HE GOT FREE SHIT WHEN I BEEN GODDAMN GOOD TO YOU VALVE etc....
    Which would mean that your nice front has been put up just for free shit, and that you're really a douchebag inside, thus warranting Valve to charge you.

    Hmhm, I can see this working...
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    #15  Edited By Rockdalf

    Add up number of TF2's I've bought for friends * multiply by money spent in TF2 store * to the power of 36 (number of potatoes gotten in recent ARG) and my free games will come out to....


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    #16  Edited By beforet

    I never participate in the steam "community." Do I qualify as an "awful person"? Will I be charged extra?

    Look, I just have one thing to say for that:

    If the game costs more to buy on steam than it does elsewhere, where do you think my money is going?

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    #17  Edited By napalm
    @Slaker117 said:
    This sounds like a bad idea.
    This sounds like an awful idea.
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    #18  Edited By Freezer_Burn
    @Vexed: That's basically what I'm seeing too. It's a hilarious idea, that would be interesting to see implemented, but it wouldn't work simply because of the user aspect.
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    #19  Edited By benjaebe

    Wait, people are actually taking this seriously?

    Gaben is just taking the piss.

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