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Posted by Donkeysraliens

Judging by the pics, Charlie goes back to school in this ep, man what a craaaaazy weekend he's had hu? he gets interrogated by the police, his cousin gets abducted, his uncle ends up in hospital then he fights a tank and finds a sweet gun, so if you ask me, no amount of homework or questions about melons are gonna faze him at this point, kid's got one messed up life...though on the plus side, he's got a bunch of girlfriends, one of which enjoys steak! so, ya know, swings and roundabouts....

Posted by DanielJW

Zombie Morooka in this episode.

Posted by Leadcat
Jeff's last update: Please stop sending me links to that Persona 4 comic. You know, the one with the big spoiler in the first few panels? Thanks. 
 
well thanks everyone.
 
I guess we can at least hope Vinny hasn't been spoiled.
Posted by Turambar
@Leadcat: Yeah, I was wondering how long that was gonna take...
Edited by Ventilator

*Twiddles thumbs*
 
So...
 
Anyone have anything useful to tell me about the Nyx fight in P3? I am doing just fine until it breaks out the God Hand, then I just can´t keep up with healing my party AND trying to increase my defense to avoid insta-death from God Hand. The AI isn´t smart enough to use Mediarama when I tell it to heal/support, so when I use my turn to revive someone, that means that Nyx is getting 4 TURNS IN A ROW WITH NO HEALING and I´m totally dead.
 
Also, anyone who sent Jeff/´Vinny the link to the Persona comic is a fucking idiot. I read it, got spoiled and was saddened, why would you do it and not feel like a stupid fuck while doing it?

Posted by RagingLion

Yeah I started reading that comic and then hit a spoiler.  People had already been hinting about the spoiler in the comments of previous episodes anyway so it wasn't the biggest thing, but I wish I hadn't known about it.  Hopefully there's more interesting stuff to be revealed which hasn't been spoiled for me.

Posted by Turambar

I'm honestly surprised the comic didn't have a few panels dedicated to the other spoiler for the ending.  The one that's causing all the buzz is heavily hinted at by the game itself on rainy days so it's not too bad.

Posted by papercut

yay! 123!

Posted by KaosAngel

So close to the first potential ending...
...best of luck guys!

Posted by Turambar

Ah, Alone is finally playing in the evening.  Arguably one of my favorite tracks in the game.

Posted by Orbi

Could someone actually link me to this comic? I've finished P4, so spoilers don't matter. I'm interested to see what all the fuss is about.

Posted by AllanIceman

Yeah 50min.

Posted by Nexas

They really should be keeping Chie in. She's already behind the others lvl wise and at this rate she won't learn Godhand for a long time.

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Posted by skrutop

We're comin' for you, Nanako!

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Orbi said:
"Could someone actually link me to this comic? I've finished P4, so spoilers don't matter. I'm interested to see what all the fuss is about. "

Persona 4 forums.
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@Leadcat said:

"Jeff's last update: Please stop sending me links to that Persona 4 comic. You know, the one with the big spoiler in the first few panels? Thanks.   well thanks everyone.  I guess we can at least hope Vinny hasn't been spoiled. "


Wow, some of you people are total idiots.  I wonder if those of you who sent the link even read that comic, and see that it contained a massive spoiler RIGHT IN THE FIRST FEW PANELS!
Posted by Chewii101

Frustrating. Just frustrating. Why send Jeff, who for this entire time has been trying to avoid spoilers, a comic (which I found highly amusing) that spoils everything.  
 
I say GG to you sir, who ruined it for Jeff. 

Posted by Nexas
@Chewii101 said:
" Frustrating. Just frustrating. Why send Jeff, who for this entire time has been trying to avoid spoilers, a comic (which I found highly amusing) that spoils everything.   I say GG to you sir, who ruined it for Jeff.  "
It doesn't really spoil anything that they don't already know.
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Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Nexas said:
" @Chewii101 said:
" Frustrating. Just frustrating. Why send Jeff, who for this entire time has been trying to avoid spoilers, a comic (which I found highly amusing) that spoils everything.   I say GG to you sir, who ruined it for Jeff.  "
It doesn't really spoil anything that they don't already know. "

YES it does!  If you find reason in every joke that is made in that comic, it becomes obvious what's the spoiler!  The comic is not only about the scenes in the beginning, it foreshadows upcoming events in the future of the game!  In there there's a joke that is a massive spoiler to the True Ending of the game!  Why would you think Jeff realised it was a spoiler himself? 
Edited by Turambar
@Nexas: Well, they did joke around about said character being the killer, and now they get some semblance of a confirmation.  I will add this: Jeff, worry not, there are enough twists left over that you should be very satisfied.  Even that spoiler is not what it seems.
 
Also, you're in luck guys.  Void Quest was the longest dungeon in the game.  Heaven is either 9 or 10 floors, so you're almost there.
Posted by stallion74

That's absurd..You had Black Spot with Chie and you chose to forget it and now you complain about her skills although you still prefer to have her in your team....i can not understand this.sorry...and try to use some items for a start.it will make the battles less sp loss heavy and you will not have to spend money on fox...

Posted by Turambar
@stallion74: Black Spot is hardly a good skill.  Get over it people, it wasn't a good move on their part, but ultimately, nothing of value was lost.
 
Now, ditching masukukaja instead of sonic punch.  If you really need something to criticize them for, that's as good a spot as ever.
Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Turambar: The spoiler isn't about the killer.
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@FluxWaveZ: I know that.  I'm being vague and just a tad misleading for a reason.  Thanks for directly linking the spoiler to the True End instead of doing damage control and not letting further details out.  Good move.
Posted by Ventilator

LET´S NOT GET NEW CHEAP NAOTO ARMOR, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO USE HER EXCEPT THAT TIME WE DECIDE TO USE HER RIGHT AFTER THAT.
 
(And then wonder why she sucks)    
 
Also, while playing Persona 3 I realized that the super-evilguy from Persona 3 is voiced by the same dude who voices Yosuke. So watch out, he just started hitting stronger with his wind to gain your trust...or something...

Edited by chronix

I wish the characters you weren't using would level (even if slower than you) while you are in the dungeon so that noone ever gets 10 levels behind and becomes not really worth the effort (chie for me, like 20 levels below me)
 
oh and I don't know about anyone else but I brought Naoto with me and left her on act freely, she was okay on several floors, helping but she didn't have many useful skills
 
but on later floors, there are a lot of enemies weak to light or dark and she will not hesitate to go after that weakness even if you don't know its a weakness yet :) though when there are multiple enemies she won't _always_ go after the weakness of one of them
 
oh yes, and when you have the square rooms with a whole in the floor, enemies can't see you through the area over the hole, like all the other square rooms in all the other floors

Posted by Turambar
@Ventilator: Uh, they're swapping the armor between Naoto and Chie so I have no idea what you're talking about.   And until she learns muudo and hama boost, yes, Naoto is kind of lackluster.  Just like before she learns rainy death, Chie is rather lack luster aside.
Posted by Hyuzen

You guys should go into the video game with the B team tomorrow, or soon.

Posted by endaround

Its because the game wants you to switch characters in and out.  Its set up that way.  EXP scales, SP is the limiting factor and is expensive to recover and you want to finish dungeons in as little time as possible.  All that is screaming use all characters.  It isn't that hard to do when you need to go through each dungeon twice.
 
And losing Masukukaja was another head scratching moment..

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@Turambar: @Turambar said:

" @Ventilator: Uh, they're swapping the armor between Naoto and Chie so I have no idea what you're talking about.   And until she learns muudo and hama boost, yes, Naoto is kind of lackluster.  Just like before she learns rainy death, Chie is rather lack luster aside. "

They decied to start swapping the armor after they realized that Naoto´s current armor sucked, didn´t they?
I would feel like an idiot if that was their plan all along though... :) It seemed to me that they skipped their chance to buy new good armor, and then had to steal one from Chie because Naoto sucked without it.
Edited by Turambar

Thing is, exp scales in P4 so having a growth on each of them, while nice, isn't really all that important.  If they bring Kanji into Heaven, and win a fight, he will literally gain 8 levels (ok, not that much.)  It's pretty much what I did during my second play through of P4, bringing my neglected B team: Yosuke, Kanji, and Teddie into Magatsu Inaba, and watching Yosuke, who was the lowest, go from lv 25 to 70 in about 10 fights.

Posted by Shabran

woooooooooooooo 50 minutes

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Ventilator said:
"LET´S NOT GET NEW CHEAP NAOTO ARMOR, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO USE HER EXCEPT THAT TIME WE DECIDE TO USE HER RIGHT AFTER THAT.  (And then wonder why she sucks)      Also, while playing Persona 3 I realized that the super-evilguy from Persona 3 is voiced by the same dude who voices Yosuke. So watch out, he just started hitting stronger with his wind to gain your trust...or something... "
What?  I thought Persona 3's Main Character is voiced by the same voice as Yosuke (Yuri Lowenthal)...
Edited by Turambar
@FluxWaveZ: Lowenthal did both the MC, Pharos and Ryoji. 
Posted by Ventilator
@endaround said:
"   And losing Masukukaja was another head scratching moment.. "
 

Can any Persona 4 elitist come here and say that Masukukaja has ever been necessary for him/her? Increasing/decreasing attack or defense works, but hit/evasion is such a vague thing to me.
 
Hey may hit you less often, but you have High evasion and a Ring of Running Away From Blows, so when do you use the Hit/evasion spell?
Posted by Sarumarine

Man, at first you guys slacked off on dungeons. Now you're ripping through them on the first day. Keep on truckin' guys. It's very close now. Very close. Heh.

Edited by Turambar
@Ventilator: Was pretty much essential for me since my Kanji couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Ventilator said:
" @endaround said:
"   And losing Masukukaja was another head scratching moment.. "
 

Can any Persona 4 elitist come here and say that Masukukaja has ever been necessary for him/her? Increasing/decreasing attack or defense works, but hit/evasion is such a vague thing to me.  Hey may hit you less often, but you have High evasion and a Ring of Running Away From Blows, so when do you use the Hit/evasion spell? "
It's great when your whole party avoids an attack, taking no damage from it.  That combined with lowered hit/evasion to the enemy is a nice combo.  But yeah, in a boss fight I'm most likely to focus on the attack and defense statuses than on the evasion/hit rates.
Posted by Turambar
@FluxWaveZ: How exactly does what I said imply anything about Namatame's role?
Edited by Turambar
@Ventilator: I'm pretty sure their opinion that Naoto kinda sucked came from her Megidola dealing a whopping 89 damage on everything.  Also, their reasoning behind not buying new armor for Naoto was they didn't know if they were going to keep using her or not, so they didn't want to invent 42k just yet.
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@FluxWaveZ: Uh, no.  I'm not.  Hell, can anyone deny that Namatame was the one dumping your party members into the TV after last week?
Posted by amino
@Ventilator: 
 Regarding Masukukaja,I think it is OK whether they dump it or not because first,they play in normal mode,so enemies agility is not so high.Second,they planned to fuse Trumpeter,who will learn Debilitate.Casting Debilitate on later bosses is enough to help them to finish this game.And third,they are not going to fight 2 secret bosses,which Sukunda and Sukukaja combination are crucial to hit those bosses.So,everything is OK.They play well.
Posted by Figcoinc

I loves Vinny's quick apology to his girl after the Antartica joke. haha
 
I know how it is man. One little joke can bring up trouble.

Edited by Turambar
@FluxWaveZ: I said there was some semblance of confirmation.  I can rephrase that as "their suspicions hold some merit." if you want.  Either way, that's a far cry from "you guys are right" (they're not) since it gives the idea that there is much more to it that just what they joked about.  How much more?  They'll have to find out themselves.
Posted by Bigdonkey1

one thing i haven't understood is the side bars on the video. the black and white art work things. are they in game or edited in later to fit the player?

Posted by Turambar
@Bigdonkey1: They're edited in.
Posted by Myomoto
@Bigdonkey1: Pretty sure it's because the PS2 is lacking in widescreen support.
Edited by FluxWaveZ
@Turambar said:

"@FluxWaveZ: I said there was some semblance of confirmation.  I can rephrase that as "their suspicions hold some merit." if you want.  Either way, that's a far cry from "you guys are right". "

You edited your comment.
Posted by Ventilator

I love the people here quoting spoilers, screaming at them for spoiling and presenting everyone more spoilers.

Posted by Poki3

Tentarafoo is pretty useless for you. you should have replaced that with Masukukaja, because whole party buffs are great :/
 
As far a Chile, she's probably worse then Kanji, but she's good. The problem is you forgot Black Spot, and that was her ONLY decent single-target Physical for a long time, so now you'll have to suffer through it. Don't use multi-target spells on single targets. Multi-target physicals are good just because they're multi-targeted (with 1 exception). They have lower accuracy and crit rates then single target spells. You'll probably better off just using a normal attack with her for single targets (Skull Cracker has a lower attack then your weapons at this point). Not saying you shouldn't use Chie. Actually the opposite, you should use the hell out of her so that she'll level and learn her next attack :/

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