Learn About the Makings of Dragon Age 2

" I am really looking forward to this game, but im kinda worried about it to, from what i can see in the trailers and these interviews ,  im guessing you no longer will be able to choose a class, or buy and find new armor and wepons, hopefully  they wont take away the ability to craft items to, like potions and elexirs. .  im sure it will be a great game, i just hope  they dont take to much away... "

I am really looking forward to this game, but im kinda worried about it to, from what i can see in the trailers and these interviews ,  im guessing you no longer will be able to choose a class, or buy and find new armor and wepons, hopefully  they wont take away the ability to craft items to, like potions and elexirs. .  im sure it will be a great game, i just hope  they dont take to much away...

Mark Darrah looks like the Nostalgic critic.

I see characters are still unaffected by being soaked in strawberry jelly.

"We made it casual"

Orgins was one of my favorite games last year. this has quelled some concern but i hope they release a dev walkthrough so i can be sure about this game. THo i will say its bioware and i trust them to make a quality experience and will probably get this anyway

Nooooooooooo! Mirror's Edge cinematics :(((

So pumped for this game.
 
PS. I love you, BioWare.

 On other things I like the character design of the main character, to be honest I love crafting my own character but I'd prefer if he was more narratively involved. Its hard to be immersed when hes standing there with a dumb blank look on his face the entire game.   

You can customise the look of the main character a whole lot. I semi-accidentally did so at Gamex and made a terribly ugly character (with a totally different skincolor under his close-cut hair..) and a pretty funny-looking tattoo straight over his mouth.We laughed a bit seeing this dude as we played. then the EA staff told me I couldn't play anymore, and I was terribly unsure as to why. I guess he just didn't like me having fun and trying to get to terms with the combat?

EDIT: TL;DR: Character Creation seems to be sort of Mass effect-y (appearance, class, from what i saw)

Absolutely loved the combat in the first one. Didn't think a single battle dragged out, I felt that every encounter was huge and unless I was smart about my actions, I would fail
 
I like games that make me use my brain for more that hitting the trigger button when something runs across my screen.

Hmm...I'll withhold judgment until I see more. I loved me some Dragon Age Origins, but I'm willing to put some faith in Bioware. They've never disappointed me before.

" Am I crazy for being sad that even Bioware is giving up on the RPG format? "

Dragon Age Origins is to Mass Effect as Dragon Age 2 is to Mass Effect 2.
 
As soon as he started talking about taking the core rpg elements and shaving off the rest that what I instantly thought of. 
 
For me playing on higher difficulties in the first game really had you use your party in a strategic manner especially to get by on bigger battles. This just seems more like Mass Effect 2 where your team mates might as well not be there at all as your a wholly sufficient killing machine.
 
I'm curious to see what the character/stat sheets looks like. If there are any. 
 
Anyway, this is a Bioware game and regardless of the supposed mechanics I still love a good RPG and I'm willing to take whatever the developers feel like they need to do to the game.

Yeah, I don't know. A lot of Dragon Age 2 sounds so different that they might as well just started a separate franchise at that point instead of trying to call it "Dragon Age". Then again, it sounds like they want to be for RPGs what Halo was for shooters, which means vast simplification and a complete abandonment of the sort of PC RPG that Dragon Age Origins secretly was. Rest in peace, I guess.

Hm the combat is a gamble but it could work, not sure how i feel about magic being real time though... i can understand melee or archery since there wasnt much strategy involved but the magic.... hm i don't think they will pull it off.

" @AlisterCat said:

" I WANT combat that is like dice rolls. That's the point. I don't want responsive combat, Dragon Age is not Dynasty Warriors. "

A happy medium is possible though, Two Worlds 2 actually manages to do it quite well. "

dis is not liek DA:O...i want diserolls and shit...

This is gonna be really bad, and I'm gonna laugh when people complain how bad it is.

i just beat the first one and need to get the expansion they make them to fast

sweet

" Hey guys, remember how the entire point of Dragon Age as a franchise was to be a revival of hardcore CRPGs like Baldur's Gate, with tactical combat, point-and-click controls, deep character creation systems, expansive worlds to explore and a forgoing of technical polish in favour of intelligent and multi-faceted storylines and quests which allow for real choice and consequence?  Remember how awesome it was to see Dragon Age leading what could have been a veritable Renaissance of the Western RPG, returning it to its pen and paper-based roots? 
 
Because I think BioWare forgot. "

" needs multiplayer "

 I want tactical chess...I liked pondering my moves and taking time and pausing the game.   Also, how the fuck are these spam guys writing stuff.  Ban their goddamn accounts or something

I remember a quote from BioWare in the summer stating that Dragon Age was the most successful title they had ever put out.  If most successful means most sold I have to wonder why they are taking it down the road of Mass Effect 2, a game less successful according to them.

People are crying because they're afraid of new things.  The combat in Dragon Age Origins wasn't bad but it did drag out.  A lot.  When you really get into what's going on with the story, but every single minor fucking battle in the game has to be executed with pausing and precision (provided you are playing on anything above easy) it slows things down a lot.  The combat is the reason I can't get through the game a second time.

DRAGONS!

Looks okay, but it's not the "tactical chess game" that I want in a Dragon Age game.  I want that strategy element that works best on the PC, not an actiony-ME2 type game set in a fantasy world.  I'm not going to say it's going to be a bad game, but it's shaping up to be not the type of game I am looking for.  I had enough of that in the last Fable.

I never see people complain about the The Witcher 2 doing essentially the same thing.

So they shaved off the edges. To create Fable 3 again.

This is going to be great. Need to find a way to get out of work for the whole of March.

I still can't believe how bad this game looks, especially for such a late generation game. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed Origins (even though it was terribly ugly and ran like a slideshow) but I was really hoping that they would elevate the graphics to current AAA-game standards.
 
I hope they give it a bit of a face lift before release (particularly the lighting model and ground textures).

Too bad for the I wanna an old school RPG with dices ... but I dont care Im in no matter what Bioware does so oviously cant wait for the game ..... I want nowwwwww!!!!!!! hehehe :)

Man, I'm not skeptical at all.  Even if they do change the combat from the strategic combat I loved from DA:O, I'm sure it will still make it into my top 20 games, as BioWare games always fucking deliver.

There is no way I'll buy this without a demo. The stereotypically 'badass' shit that turned up in the marketing near the release of Origins seems to now pervade the whole design ethos. 'Our lycanthrope character licking his own blood' in all the art etc. 
 
I'm still prepared for this to be a good game but man, I personally feel for the first time in a long line of bioware games that I need to try this out before I buy it. 
 
Don't get me wrong, there's a hell of a lot of stereotype in all bioware games and I have held that against them in the past but not much, so far, of this kind. We'll see I guess.

Well he sure said it, 'it's almost hard to communicate how much this game still feels like Origins despite feeling completely different.'
 
Dev gameplay walkthrough would probably do the trick.

Holy shit, dudes (dudettes, rather) cosplaying in dragon age origins armor sets, that's fantastic haha. 
 
It really does look neat and sounds great on paper. Apparently was great at the showing? Cool stuff all around.

I should play my copy of Dragon Age: Origins. 
 
Hahaha, yeah right..

" @DG991 said:

" This is just developer BS. They dumbed down DA:O for console gameplay, no way around it... but it probably will still be a good game.  "

I'm not so sure. From what I could tell from the brief clip of combat it simply looked faster thats all. It still had the powers and he was clearly using the mouse to target them not clicking to slash. I could wrong, but I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. It is Bioware after all.    What I would really like is for Bioware to put out some sort of demo. That way the people who keep bitching will ether shut up or will have more valid arguments since they actually played it. "  

" Nothing was wrong with the combat in DOA. Nothing was impersonal about the story in DOA. People's situations were profoundly effected by their interactions with your character in DOA. The first game sold because it was a classic RPG that felt like a chess game. That's what made it something unique that people wanted. You say you're taking the basic concepts, and making them feel new. What does that mean? It sounds like you may as well have said dumbing down. This is not going to be a chess game. This is not going to be strategic. But it's going to feel new. You say that you're not making something that goes against the good parts of DOA. But, by definition, it seems as though you already have. "

Those ten seconds of gameplay looked awesome.

" i dunno... hawke looks pretty stupid. 1 shoulder pad! i hate that. wear two shoulder pads damnit! i dunno. "

Nothing was wrong with the combat in DOA. Nothing was impersonal about the story in DOA. People's situations were profoundly effected by their interactions with your character in DOA. The first game sold because it was a classic RPG that felt like a chess game. That's what made it something unique that people wanted. You say you're taking the basic concepts, and making them feel new. What does that mean? It sounds like you may as well have said dumbing down. This is not going to be a chess game. This is not going to be strategic. But it's going to feel new. You say that you're not making something that goes against the good parts of DOA. But, by definition, it seems as though you already have.

Can't wait for this, to put it simple? Bioware like Valve is one of those few developers i put absolute faith in, they havn't let me down yet and though Mass Effect 2 was a little less RPG than what i would have liked i still enjoyed the experience.

i dunno... hawke looks pretty stupid. 1 shoulder pad! i hate that. wear two shoulder pads damnit! i dunno.

" This is just developer BS. They dumbed down DA:O for console gameplay, no way around it... but it probably will still be a good game.  "

/like. 
But let's just hope it still has the DragonAge feel.