Ten Narrated Minutes of Splinter Cell: Blacklist

Looks like a good game, regarding the canon and lack of Ironside it is disappointing but i'll still play it.

Conviction was fucking amazing, all you guys hating it, wow.

Love the series and even Conviction, thought it was a good balance of stealth/action/good storytelling, however this looks just too far in the action direction

I realise the stealth options will be there, but why not just reboot the franchise? or have Sam as a handler for a new character? At least itll be fun and hopefully keep the challenge maps and PEC challenges and stuff i guess

I kind of don't want to torture people. So I guess this game isn't for me.

And admittedly, I've only climbed a couple of times, but I'm fairly sure that's not how it works.

Also, who is this guy who is clearly not Sam Fisher, calling himself Sam Fisher?

SPLINTER CELL: WAR CRIME

This game actually looks like an atrocity. A crime against humanity of some sort. Torture Ahmadinejad lookalikes to death, fire tazers into water, stand behind cover, murder dogs, employ "killing in motion" and do sweet-ass parkour moves.

It's like they played 10 commercially successful games, threw in a bit of modern conflict, put the name "Splinter Cell" on it, added a known Splinter Cell move, and pulled a game out of their ass.

Oh, and no Ironside.

Looks pretty good. I lost interest after Pandora Tommorrow though.

Ironside has an awesome voice, but I wouldn't have guessed just how much this changes the feeling of the game. Now his voice is just generic "tough" guy. He sounds like he could be from literally any military game from the past 10 years.

I can't fathom why there's so much disdain for this game. It looks really fun. Conviction was O-K but the whole going rogue and using a broken mirror etc didn't feel like Splinter Cell. I like that he's back in the suit, the goggles look cool and being more mobile is definitely a plus.

Since when do people have issues with torturing "bad guys" that mechanic has been around for ages. It's a video game so fuck it. I bet that there will be a ton of levels were you sneak around in some facility hiding in vents and hanging from pipes. Conviction was super action oriented but it had some good sneaking levels like the office building you infiltrate.

I guess I'm in the minority that likes this type of game since I'm excited for it while te Bomb guys were hyped for Halo 4 which looked like just another Halo game to me.

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

I hate dogs in video games. So goddamn much.

Sam Fisher Vs DMX

Look out for it

@Arker101 said:

I don't remember the dog murder at the E3 demo, huh, I wonder why they left it out. I was already un-sold on this game with what appears to be the lack of stealth and Ironside, though.

Yo dawg. I heard you like Ironside. So I put some Ironsights for Ironside so you can aim down the sights while you shimmy to the side.

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

I think it looks fun. If you want to play Chaos Theory so bad... go play it. It's still there. Wanting a new game to be the same as the old game or you'll throw your toys out of the pram is what makes you an entitled moron.

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

I think it looks fun. If you want to play Chaos Theory so bad... go play it. It's still there. Wanting a new game to be the same as the old game or you'll throw your toys out of the pram is what makes you an entitled moron.

Here's the thing though, I want to play this game. I'm criticizing the god-awful marketing of this game and how huge of a disservice Ubisoft is doing to this game. The developers promised a lot cool mechanics and I do think they will deliver, I want to see those not this COD knock-off schlock. I've already seen it a dozen times, I'm simply not interested in this style of gameplay anymore.

Well i'm pumped for this game it's also a great shame to hear no Ironside. They didn't even try to get someone to match the lower growl of Fisher - now he just sounds incredibly generic. Like many others are saying I would of been happy with a new character. It would stop us playing as the Benjamin Button of protagonists as Sam seems to be getting younger all the time.

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

People moan when it stays the same... adding new mechanics to a game doesn't automatically deserve criticism, especially if you haven't played it yet. Stealth is still there, but they added more action to it. What is the big problem in that? Heck, they allow you to choose your approach much more freely than past Splinter Cell games. I’m sure there are ways around the violence or at the very least suppress it but no-one ever gives the developers the chance to showcase it.

They don’t have Ironside. Well…maybe Ironside didn’t want to voice him anymore. Does the game itself deserve criticism because of that? Do they have to stop producing Splinter Cell games? Will gamers bitch if they removed Sam from Splinter Cell?

Splinter Cell has torture scenes. Do games that involve gruesome executions like Gears of War get criticism? Does Dishonored get criticism for allowing people to get consumed by rats? No.

@OtakuGamer said:

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

People moan when it stays the same... adding new mechanics to a game doesn't automatically deserve criticism, especially if you haven't played it yet. Stealth is still there, but they added more action to it. What is the big problem in that? Heck, they allow you to choose your approach much more freely than past Splinter Cell games. I’m sure there are ways around the violence or at the very least suppress it but no-one ever gives the developers the chance to showcase it.

They don’t have Ironside. Well…maybe Ironside didn’t want to voice him anymore. Does the game itself deserve criticism because of that? Do they have to stop producing Splinter Cell games? Will gamers bitch if they removed Sam from Splinter Cell?

Splinter Cell has torture scenes. Do games that involve gruesome executions like Gears of War get criticism? Does Dishonored get criticism for allowing people to get consumed by rats? No.

@bolded

Yes. That is exactly what I'm always complaining about. It's always for some asinine reason that the PR or the marketing doesn't let the developers showcase the games the way they want. No we have to show the boring, COD schlock not what this game is truly capable of. Same thing happened with Hitman.

Also my point about criticisms still stands, people have the right to voice concerns over a game they're paying money for it even if they have not yet played it. I don't believe they should outright dismiss it as long as it doesn't appeal to their taste anymore.

P.S I don't mind changing Ironside. It's just Sam looking 20 years younger looks really freakin' weird especially if it's set after Conviction. I would've preferred a new protagonist honestly.

@Packie said:

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

I think it looks fun. If you want to play Chaos Theory so bad... go play it. It's still there. Wanting a new game to be the same as the old game or you'll throw your toys out of the pram is what makes you an entitled moron.

Here's the thing though, I want to play this game. I'm criticizing the god-awful marketing of this game and how huge of a disservice Ubisoft is doing to this game. The developers promised a lot cool mechanics and I do think they will deliver, I want to see those not this COD knock-off schlock. I've already seen it a dozen times, I'm simply not interested in this style of gameplay anymore.

I feel that a lot of folk on gaming forums forget that they are the least important demographic to target. The games industry is an... industry. The goal is making money. Showing trailers showcasing action sections in this game will help sell the game to the target demographic for this game, just the same way showing redcoat murder will sell the game to the Assassins Creed 3 target demographic. You are unimportant to the marketing machine because you will buy the game anyway, and if you don't your demographic consists of a very small number of vocal forumposters.

The killing in motion gameplay looks like an awesome addition and there are obviously going to be stealthy sections too. The ironside issue can't really be helped and neither can him looking younger (the target demographic doesn't want to play a geriatric spy).

The only real COD "knock-off" I saw was the airship bombing sections.. But even they looked pretty cool. (Hey, COD is the most successful franchise ever, they are doing _something_ right).

So stealthy. The Curious Case of Sam Fisher.

I see a lot of "entitled" still making the rounds in the defense of developers/games. Please stop using it wrongly, and please stop thinking they're your gods and the games are gifts to you.

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

I think it looks fun. If you want to play Chaos Theory so bad... go play it. It's still there. Wanting a new game to be the same as the old game or you'll throw your toys out of the pram is what makes you an entitled moron.

Here's the thing though, I want to play this game. I'm criticizing the god-awful marketing of this game and how huge of a disservice Ubisoft is doing to this game. The developers promised a lot cool mechanics and I do think they will deliver, I want to see those not this COD knock-off schlock. I've already seen it a dozen times, I'm simply not interested in this style of gameplay anymore.

I feel that a lot of folk on gaming forums forget that they are the least important demographic to target. The games industry is an... industry. The goal is making money. Showing trailers showcasing action sections in this game will help sell the game to the target demographic for this game, just the same way showing redcoat murder will sell the game to the Assassins Creed 3 target demographic. You are unimportant to the marketing machine because you will buy the game anyway, and if you don't your demographic consists of a very small number of vocal forumposters.

The killing in motion gameplay looks like an awesome addition and there are obviously going to be stealthy sections too. The ironside issue can't really be helped and neither can him looking younger (the target demographic doesn't want to play a geriatric spy).

The only real COD "knock-off" I saw was the airship bombing sections.. But even they looked pretty cool. (Hey, COD is the most successful franchise ever, they are doing _something_ right).

It's as if you're implying I don't like action games when I pretty much really do. Also, I don't get this "Action and Explosions! sell" marketing mentality. The Syndicate Reboot would like to have a word with you. I mean sure, established shooter franchises sell a lot I'll give you that. Why do you think so many people are hyped about Watch Dogs? Was it the boring cover-based shooting at the end of the trailer or the innovative hacking mechanics set in an open-world and the cool universe they've set up?

I don't know why publishers don't set themselves apart from the competition and insist on marketing their games to look so homogenized they're indistinct. COD is keeping selling millions because it's really good at what it set out to do, that's it. My biggest problem with this game is the marketing. That's all.

Also I'm looking forward to this game btw.

Great. Quick-Time Event torture sequences. I understand that there is a degree of separation between the actions of myself and the video-game character, but I can't overcome it in this case. Why do I cackle with glee while I strangle a minotaur with its own tongue in GoW but cringe when I see Sam stab a guy in the collarbone and twist the blade? I think it's because this godawful trend of "rrgritty realism war is super-violence hnnng" masturbatory, cringe-inducing one-upsmanship happening in the industry is honest-to-Christ too much for me. I don't want to do that in a videogame. I'm out not even two minutes into this video. I think anyone else who thinks this is awful should speak up about it, too.

He seems like he can almost do too many things to the point where it won't be a challenge.

If this is indicative of the whole game then I don't really want to play it. Hopefully it's just Ubisoft showing the most marketable part they have.

I'm willing to give this a chance. Conviction wasn't without its flaws but I thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless.

@Hardiharr said:

Great. Quick-Time Event torture sequences. I understand that there is a degree of separation between the actions of myself and the video-game character, but I can't overcome it in this case. Why do I cackle with glee while I strangle a minotaur with its own tongue in GoW but cringe when I see Sam stab a guy in the collarbone and twist the blade? I think it's because this godawful trend of "rrgritty realism war is super-violence hnnng" masturbatory, cringe-inducing one-upsmanship happening in the industry is honest-to-Christ too much for me. I don't want to do that in a videogame. I'm out not even two minutes into this video. I think anyone else who thinks this is awful should speak up about it, too.

Tom Bissell did when he saw it at E3.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8157257/line-explores-reasons-why-play-shooter-games

In early June, at the E3 convention in Los Angeles, I attended a demo for a game called Splinter Cell: Blacklist. In the demo, I watched the Splinter Cell franchise's long-established hero, Sam Fisher — operating somewhere in Middle Eastistan — enter a tent, kill two gentlemen, and grab a third. Sam asks this third gentleman where a certain colleague of his might be. The gentleman declines to answer, so Sam sticks his knife into the gentleman's clavicle. The gamer is then given an onscreen prompt to twirl around his controller's joystick, which in turn twirls around Sam's knife in the gentleman's wound. The screaming gentleman gives Sam the info he needs — and, suddenly, it's "moral choice" time, for Sam has to choose whether to kill or knock out his freshly tortured victim. Let's review: a moral choice —afteran interactive torture sequence.
We've arrived in a strange emotional clime when our popular entertainment frequently depicts torture as briskly effective rather than literally the worst thing one human being can do to another — yea verily, worse even than killing. Inflicting pain and suffering on a captive human being because one person feels like it and the other can't stop it … is this not what we're told awaits sinners in hell? Is this not the domain of Satan?
I left the Blacklist demo sick and infuriated, which was a shame, because the person introducing the demo was a game designer I admire and have long wanted to meet. I really wanted to ask this man how he felt, demo-ing that. Ask the programmers and artists, too, how they felt, bringing that moment into this world. I wanted to ask them all what the deal is with this industry we're a part of. I didn't. Couldn't. I know people who've been tortured. Someone I know was tortured because of something I wrote about him — a cold little bibelot I'll take with me to my grave. I described my Blacklist experience to some gamer friends, a couple of whom thought I was overreacting. Overreacting to a blithe, shrugging presentation of the very definition of human evil, all in the name of "entertainment." I spent a couple days feeling ashamed of being a gamer, of playing or liking military games, of being interested in any of this disgusting bullshit at all.

I think everyone just needs to take a deep breathe and realise they're only video games. We don't need to get all deep and metaphorical with is torture okay and video game violence in marketing. No one outside of niche enthusiasts websites cares. Especially when they game is about a grizzled angry ass spy. He's not Mary Poppins; he's a spy.

Also this one is just for me, but I hate it when two conversations dominate the entire comments section. Once you have like 8 really long paragraphs, stop quoting. Just reply.

THANKS GUYS HAVE A GOOD DAY

I'm a cat person anyway...

Game looks really solid, but after the events of Conviction I'm very curious as to how/why Sam goes back to working for the government.

Huh, isn't this the same mission as the E3 preview?

The lack of Ironside is too weird, but if they come out with some good stealth gameplay videos then I might be back on board.... cause this doesn't look like fun

How is it a moral choice whether you follow your brutal torture of an enemy combatant with death or not? That's so out-of-touch with reality it's fucking preposterous.

Wonder why they blurred out all the buttons. They didn't want to show that it's running on the PC or what?

Why didn't they have a character who was secretly female, but changed her appearance to that of a male, in order to get the job she wanted.

Actually I cannot recall any game telling this storyline. I think it would be quite interesting.

Yeah, so Uncharted is bleeding into every other game ever, right?

@Hardiharr: @AssInAss:

I agree. That Tom Bissell article is an amazing read.

I think 'Killing in motion' is, in a way, a power fantasy - evoking complete control for just a moment.

There's something primal in it. I guess the most basic level of emotionally distancing yourself from this stuff is, well, thinking of it as a videogame at it's most basic level.

"I just stabbed that man in the chest! I shot and killed those three guys in 2.5 seconds."

"I changed that binary state from 1 to 0! I did it to those three entities in 2.5 seconds."

It depends what you see. I cringed when the dude screamed while the player was rotating the stick to twist the knife in his collarbone, because I just don't want to play a (sequence in a) videogame that evokes those emotions - and it's a unique response in this medium because I am in a way directly influencing what's being displayed to me.

I'm making that man scream like that, I don't like the way that makes me feel - I have become directly responsible for that discomfort I am feeling, and that makes me feel further like shit.

I'm just rotating the left stick on the controller, sure - but I'm interpreting what I see and hear.

I'm not sure I want to be thinking about human anguish and suffering while playing a videogame - though there are cases where that just might be the designer's intent. 'Realism' is a factor in this too. We can't expect the interpretation of videogame content to remain constant as many games more and more attempt to express realism. It is not real, but to an extent it may appear to be. It's not necessarily what it is, but what it evokes.

I prefer the problem-solving challenges of stealth in Chaos Theory, playing as Sam Fisher, cool #crackinwise spy dude. I'd like to think a little more/differently, instead of repeating the similar processes of take one guy out then mark a few others to have the game shoot those guys for me in slow-motion. I know there's more to it than that, and I do understand the appeal of it.

I also understand that this trailer's action-orientated game-play may merely be a marketing ploy similar to Hitman Absolution.

Just my two-cents duders.

Also, the video's tagline is hilarious.

Placing a moral choice to kill or knock out a bad guy after torturing the fuck out of him is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a video game. 
 
Otherwise it looks pretty cool.

Mark and Shoot still exists

Yeah, nah, I won't be getting this. Let me know when Splinter Cell is actually a stealth game again.

the reason most things get shittier over time is largely due to the bored, apathetic support by those who are so easily impressed by things made cheap and easy. if there is a franchise that has demonstrated more regression from one game to the next than splinter cell, i don't know what it is. so congratulations to all of you who buy this. you have officially become the "lowest common denominator" in the equation, and as such, you have effectively given just cause to eliminate all creativity and distinguishing features, such as "stealth gameplay," from ever being a burden ever again.

this rant is probably a little on the intense side, but what does it matter really? the people this is directed towards are hardly the type to take any criticism, let alone to actually have to read it, so to hell with them. at this point, the only real tool we have is public shaming.

Maybe Michael Ironside didn't want to do another Splinter Cell game? That's no reason to blame the developer. His voice never stuck with me much anyways. I always thought it sounded like a generic action game hero. And since when is dog killing a new thing in video games? I'm not condoning dog killing or anything, but this is hardly the first game to let you do it. And are you guys forgetting all the torture scenes in Conviction where you do things like smashing through a porcelain urinal or sink with a guys face? Maybe they put the torture scene in there because it DOES make you cringe. And to anyone who is complaining about the mission being set in the middle east, perhaps you've forgotten that this is a series of games based on Tom Clancy's writing? The stories have always been like this, whether it's the russains or the arabs or the crazy right wing paramilitaries with the metaphorical nukes. You guys really do think you are "entitled", I'm not dick sucking the developers, I'm just not trying to actively hate this game for no reason.

Don't like his new voice at all. Why not just make this guy Sam Fishers protege since he looks and sounds younger and have Sam be his Lambert.

Sam Fisher looks like an asshole.

No thank you, I will rather play MGS4.

Looks ok, but it doesn't look like a Splinter Cell game.  I'm not sure why the niche games seem so terrified of doing what they do best.  Dead Space 3 seems to have the same problem.  Not every game needs to be fast paced action all of the time.

WHY DID YOU HURT THE DOG SAM??? WHAT DID THAT POOR DOG EVER DO TO YOU??? Oh wait..

I had hoped they removed the mark and execute thingie after Conviction, but I guess having an "I win button" focus test better than having to think alittle. Also Ryan is right, all these Tom Clancy games look alike, and its a very generic and mediocre look.

They better patch Ironsides voice in this

I will not buy a game where dogs are injured.

Killing is a moral choice, but torture isn't.

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@FauxNinja said:

@Packie said:

@OtakuGamer said:

I DON’T LIKE TOUTURE! IT’S A KILLFEST ACTION TITLE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! IT’S NOT SPLINTER CELL ANYMORE! MICHAEL IRONSIDE ISN’T VOCING SAM FISHER 0/10! Seriously?!

It seems like the gaming community now consists of a bunch of whiny entitled morons who try to find reasons to hate what looks like a solid game. A shame...

Criticizing a new game in a long-standing franchise for its mechanics and story does not make you an "entitled moron", I wish people would stop tossing that stupid word around seriously.

OT: I don't know what the hell's going on with the developers and Ubisoft's marketing. One group is promising us levels that are bigger than anything in previous games in the series with expanded mechanics on both the stealth and the action side, the other is showing us a really one sided picture and is doing a huge disservice to this game. Get your shit together Ubisoft.

I think it looks fun. If you want to play Chaos Theory so bad... go play it. It's still there. Wanting a new game to be the same as the old game or you'll throw your toys out of the pram is what makes you an entitled moron.

Here's the thing though, I want to play this game. I'm criticizing the god-awful marketing of this game and how huge of a disservice Ubisoft is doing to this game. The developers promised a lot cool mechanics and I do think they will deliver, I want to see those not this COD knock-off schlock. I've already seen it a dozen times, I'm simply not interested in this style of gameplay anymore.

I feel that a lot of folk on gaming forums forget that they are the least important demographic to target. The games industry is an... industry. The goal is making money. Showing trailers showcasing action sections in this game will help sell the game to the target demographic for this game, just the same way showing redcoat murder will sell the game to the Assassins Creed 3 target demographic. You are unimportant to the marketing machine because you will buy the game anyway, and if you don't your demographic consists of a very small number of vocal forumposters.

The killing in motion gameplay looks like an awesome addition and there are obviously going to be stealthy sections too. The ironside issue can't really be helped and neither can him looking younger (the target demographic doesn't want to play a geriatric spy).

The only real COD "knock-off" I saw was the airship bombing sections.. But even they looked pretty cool. (Hey, COD is the most successful franchise ever, they are doing _something_ right).

I think you are forgetting that we want good games, not shit ones churned out for the sole purpose of making money. We're not fucking stupid, we know that a business is supposed to make money. I remain important to the marketing machine because I won't be buying the game. The 'unique' experience this game claims to offer will be on a shelf at Gamestop with all the other unique experiences. You know, the shelf that holds the other action shooters where the targets are brown people and you have laughably bad 'moral choices'. The 'something right' you are referring to is called pandering to the lowest common denominator and taking the easy way out by following an established (and now tired) formula instead of trying something genuinely interesting (which the older games in the series did).