The Jedi Consular Storms In The Old Republic

This trailer looks like shit.

That looked pretty good to me.  I mean it's an MMO so I'm not sure why people would expect something other than static combat.  Yeah, before the GW2 zealots chime in, I know about that game, too.  Since ArenaNet went in a different direction, we'll have to see if their ideas work over time when the game is released sometime in the future.  This reminds me of KOTOR and that's a good thing.  The combat was calculated in the original Knights, so I'm hoping for some of that here.  I'm not interested in The Force Unleashed's style of hyper-kinetic activity.  I want something I can play for hours without suffering eyestrain or cramping.  Besides KOTOR wasn't about combat, it was about story and if this continues that tradition, then I'll get some good play from it.
 
@Krrutch said:

i will always seek ridiculous shoulderpads

i will always seek ridiculous shoulderpads

Even as a Bioware fan, it's pretty obvious to me that this is getting hype based on the fact that it's a Star Wars/KOTOR-themed MMO, rather than whether it is actually an amazing MMO or not. So I remain optimistic, but I have to say Guild Wars 2 is looking tempting...

Holy shit that looks boring. Even the poor Jedi in the video looks bored.

Is the music from Mass Effect 2?

The animation looks so jerky. 

Look at those shoulder pads!

This looks so amature considering the people behind it

@saxmusician20 said:

How did Lucasarts manage to make Jedis so uncool? I used to think of them as the mysterious and awesome "wizards of space." Now they are the "generic action character # 5,001." I am really disgusted with Lucasarts. P.S. WHERE IS MY X-WING OR TIE FIGHTER SERIES REBOOT???

WHERE IS IT????

Today's Forecast: Cloudy with a chance of Jedi Consular storms.

How did Lucasarts manage to make Jedis so uncool? I used to think of them as the mysterious and awesome "wizards of space." Now they are the "generic action character # 5,001." I am really disgusted with Lucasarts.  
 
P.S. WHERE IS MY X-WING OR TIE FIGHTER SERIES REBOOT??? 

There's no way I'm signing up for another game of "Kill 50 dire boars".

So unless TOR has a radically superior quest system...

Looks sweet.

@Gildermershina said:

Man, I really hate how MMO combat has no action to it whatsoever. Troopers just standing there in the open shooting each other until one of them dies, then aiming at the next guy and so on. And the Jedi duals are two guys standing rooted to one spot facing each other trading ridiculous over-animated attacks where they do a crazy backflip - and possibly just miss due to the nature of the game. I mean, that'd be fine if that's what Star Wars combat looked like, but it isn't. The only really static lightsaber duel was Vader vs. Obi-Wan, and they sure as hell weren't doing crazy jumps. That said, I'm willing to give this game the benefit of the doubt because KOTOR was kind of the exact same way.

Your problem isn't with the MMO genre, but rather, is with the RPG genre. Look at the original KOTOR games--they're incredibly "stand around and watch numbers tick." With that said, there are quite a few "twitch skill" MMORPGs out there. Hell, even limited to the free to play categories, I can name a few.

See: Dragon Nest, Spiral Knights, Vindictus.

I am aware this gameplay choice is part of most Western RPGs, and like I say, KOTOR is a great example of that. I guess I just wish we'd get a little bit more advanced, and get better at hiding the dice-rolls. The problem I have is more that an MMO on this production scale that's set in a huge action-based universe, maybe should try and address those action gameplay aspects a little better. I understand RPGs need to run dicerolls, but I'm not sure why these dicerolls can't still happen while players and NPCs are moving about, reacting to the environment. I can forgive them for the melee stuff - I'm sure choreographing a proper dynamic lightsaber fight on the fly is near-impossible - but gun-wielding characters could surely move around, maybe move behind cover for a save bonus, and maybe you have a simple trade-off for moving-and-firing where you have less accuracy but you are also harder to hit. I know I'm just throwing ideas around, but I think I'd be more excited to see some mechanical innovation within the MMO space that fits the property than to learn they've got X thousand hours of voicework.

Leave it to an MMO to make cool things like awkward and shitty.

Hmm... actually that didn't look too bad at all haha.. I kinda liked it.  Not sure I'm gonna play the game though.. kinda done with MMO's.

This isn't the game you're looking for.

Sorry for the crude response but wow that looks so shit.

I guess I'll just have to face the fact that Mass Effect has taken over the KotOR mantle and move along.

Lightsabers that don't dismember aren't Lightsabers. 

Damn this trailer was terrible.  They need to get on with the beta already cuzz shit like this isn't very inspiring. 

Kane liv... oh wait, wrong game.

@Gildermershina said:

Man, I really hate how MMO combat has no action to it whatsoever. Troopers just standing there in the open shooting each other until one of them dies, then aiming at the next guy and so on. And the Jedi duals are two guys standing rooted to one spot facing each other trading ridiculous over-animated attacks where they do a crazy backflip - and possibly just miss due to the nature of the game. I mean, that'd be fine if that's what Star Wars combat looked like, but it isn't. The only really static lightsaber duel was Vader vs. Obi-Wan, and they sure as hell weren't doing crazy jumps. That said, I'm willing to give this game the benefit of the doubt because KOTOR was kind of the exact same way.

Your problem isn't with the MMO genre, but rather, is with the RPG genre. Look at the original KOTOR games--they're incredibly "stand around and watch numbers tick." With that said, there are quite a few "twitch skill" MMORPGs out there. Hell, even limited to the free to play categories, I can name a few.

See: Dragon Nest, Spiral Knights, Vindictus.

Steam fanboys need to STFU.

wow that was terrible, really really bad.  were most of those animations missing frames or what?  also why is no one moving?  was that all static lightmaps?  Is this 2004?  what the hell is going on over there at bioware?  I love how it's 2011 and all the round objects have gotten upgraded from pentagons to octagons.  Really fantastic modelling guys.

@Gildermershina said:

Man, I really hate how MMO combat has no action to it whatsoever. Troopers just standing there in the open shooting each other until one of them dies, then aiming at the next guy and so on. And the Jedi duals are two guys standing rooted to one spot facing each other trading ridiculous over-animated attacks where they do a crazy backflip - and possibly just miss due to the nature of the game. I mean, that'd be fine if that's what Star Wars combat looked like, but it isn't. The only really static lightsaber duel was Vader vs. Obi-Wan, and they sure as hell weren't doing crazy jumps. That said, I'm willing to give this game the benefit of the doubt because KOTOR was kind of the exact same way.

Your problem isn't with the MMO genre, but rather, is with the RPG genre. Look at the original KOTOR games--they're incredibly "stand around and watch numbers tick." With that said, there are quite a few "twitch skill" MMORPGs out there. Hell, even limited to the free to play categories, I can name a few.

See: Dragon Nest, Spiral Knights, Vindictus.

Did he just pull a Darth Vader creation move at the end?

Damned DPS! Always kill the Healer first!

...or the mage... though, the healer is like an especially dickish mage.

Matt, without the light saber, he wouldn't be able to defend himself against melee attacks. DUH.

I wish it was Williams composing the soundtrack and not just dudes licensing Two Steps from Hell to do it. Iono. Maybe that was just for the trailer. But man, the more I see of this game, the less excited I am for it.

There's no way I'm signing up for another game of "Kill 50 dire boars".

So unless TOR has a radically superior quest system...

It looked alright until that epic battle where dudes stood in one place shooting each other for a minute.

@Toxin066: There are 5 and a half hours of original music in The Old Republic plus music from KOTOR and the original John Williams soundtrack. Don't worry, the music sounds amazing.

Completely psyched for this game - I didn't ask for this originally, but will be more than happy to play through 8 different main KOTOR stories and hang out with my friends in this world. For those who just want a single player game out of this, you could always just play through a long class story without grouping with anyone. Then resubscribe when/if you feel like doing another?

I have absolutely no idea why people are so cynical about this game. Anyways, I'll probably roll Consular as my Republic alt, but I'm gonna be maining an Imperial Operative.

Where is the ambassador? 

Ugh. All the combat looks so awful, it saddens me. Maybe take some of that Fourth Pillar and put it into the fun shit?

Still a Day One purchase for me. My friends and I are psyched to fight for the Republic. 
 
I'll be rolling a Consular after seeing this video. Jedi Sage is going to be awesome.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nobody asked for this, all we wanted was KOTOR 3.

Watching this makes me want Guild Wars 2.

@TheChaos said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nobody asked for this, all we wanted was KOTOR 3.

I've got good news for you: that's basically what this is, only with online co-op.

That looked terrible.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nobody asked for this, all we wanted was KOTOR 3.

@TheChaos said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nobody asked for this, all we wanted was KOTOR 3.

Pretty much. They have dollar signs in their eyes, though. Can't blame them for going after the WoW money.

No Steam, No Sale

I'm a Jedi, and I NEVER change my facial expression.