@Kordesh: Well, what more do you want in terms of games?

all this did was remind me how long it's been since I watched TV and how very little I miss it.

I can get the good shows later thru netflix, and that's worked out pretty well. things like battlestar and the few other good sci-fi shows.

If I feel like a game then HD over the air kicks the crap out of HD over cable in terms of picture quality, and it doesn't require a sub.

@Kordesh:

What more do you want? Almost every single game that matters comes out on the 360, some have exclusive content or timed exclusives, and often perform better than their other console counterparts because 360 was the lead system (yes there are exceptions). Aside from Uncharted 3 and maybe Zelda, every single title that matters is on 360, if not exclusive.

Maybe you oughtta save your stock wise-ass, hater comment for chances where the complaint actually has some validity.

@TPoppaPuff said:

@Kordesh:

What more do you want? Almost every single game that matters comes out on the 360, some have exclusive content or timed exclusives, and often perform better than their other console counterparts because 360 was the lead system (yes there are exceptions). Aside from Uncharted 3 and maybe Zelda, every single title that matters is on 360, if not exclusive.

Maybe you oughtta save your stock wise-ass, hater comment for chances where the complaint actually has some validity.

Please tell me this is satire. I refuse to believe something this stereotypical is taking place here.

@Kordesh said:

Please tell me this is satire. I refuse to believe something this stereotypical is taking place here.

That's funny, cuz that's exactly what I said to myself when I read your first comment. Haters like you are gonna hate, no matter what. Doesn't mean I should have to listen to it or shouldn't point out the sillyness in your statements. Go ahead and tell me in detail what makes 360's current lineup so woefully inept compared to anything else this year, cuz I'll give ya a hint; they're all pretty even except Wii.

C'mon Insight!

@Branthog said:

...If you make it the right price with the right interface and offer the right variety of content with the least amount of bullshit barriers, people will opt to use your legitimate service over the hassles of doing it any other way.

Having to get a $100-$200/mo cable subscription so that you can get the $15/mo HBO subscription, so that you can watch your HBO content on your XBOX or iPAD (HBOGO) is not the way to accomplish any of that. These content licensing and distribution deals need to catch up to the 21st century.

AGREED

@bhhawks78: i have cox for cable and internet, pretty sad they cant do this when they make as much money of the consumer as they do lol.

in my area its damn near a monopoly

@faustyn: Thank you for giving some of these people some perspective. I don't quite understand people complaining about features added at no cost.

@014 said:

@McShank: Well, I sold my 360 over a year ago. It didn't get used.

Then why complain about something you are not going to use, And that you dont even have?

I was going to say "Oh boy so glad Canada wasn't left out!" but looking at that selection, we might as well have been.

JUST FUCKING LET ME ACCESS HBO IN SWEDEN ALREADY! WAAAAAH!!!!

I was going to say "Oh boy so glad Canada wasn't left out!" but looking at that selection, we might as well have been.

@simian said:

I was going to say "Oh boy so glad Canada wasn't left out!" but looking at that selection, we might as well have been.

A lot of the points on the list are international channels... why would you want a UK station etc. Canada gets a lot of stuff, right now we have basically nothing.

Looks like Canada gets this:

Astral Media's Disney XD, Crackle, Dailymotion, Facebook, Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment/Real Sports, MSN with MSNBC.com, Rogers On Demand Online (RODO), Netflix, TELUS, UFC, Twitter, VEVO, YouTube, Zune.

Between all of those I'd say most/all your tv needs are covered.

@McShank: Because the other systems will follow suit. Plus, people complain all the time about stuff that doesn't affect them immediately -- like weapon permits or age restrictions when they're already past the age. I might tell someone what I don't like about a vehicle I won't buy. Maybe that's part of the reason I won't buy it. This is normal conversation.

I really hope this isn't just another way to get more money from us... we are already paying for the gold membership

I like the sound of this. Sony is probably planing on doing this too. Why else would they ass and extra row for T.V on the xmb. HBO GO!

@014 said:

@McShank: Because the other systems will follow suit. Plus, people complain all the time about stuff that doesn't affect them immediately -- like weapon permits or age restrictions when they're already past the age. I might tell someone what I don't like about a vehicle I won't buy. Maybe that's part of the reason I won't buy it. This is normal conversation.

If sony follows suite then so be it. You dont have to ever use it.. you dont have to ever pay for it. Whats the problem? You are doing nothing but being "That guy" In this post since all your doing is putting it down even though you cant use it, and never will use it. Didn't anyone ever tell you "Cant say something nice, dont say anything at all?" Or otherwise stfu and keep walking?

Software bloat is a process whereby successive versions of a computer program include an increasing proportion of unnecessary features that are not used by end users, or generally use more system resources than necessary, while offering little or no benefit to its users.

So far, most people are happy about this announcement, and you are the only one who is sad about it. Bloatware is something people dont use or wont benefit. This is from what i read is going to benefit alot of people and will most likely be used by the majority.

My cable company isn't listed so this doesn't really change anything for me. What I take away from this is it's a step toward what I really want: a la carte programming straight from the companies themselves.

Having to pay $60 for standard definition Basic, SD Extended Basic and Pay-Per-View plus another $50 for SD Digital Premium channels (I never watch anything in standard def, ever) just to be able to get to the HD channels tier (for another $5) is growing old fast.

@McShank: We'll see what happens. I don't want to load up my PS3 or Wii and not be able to do anything until the ads load. If they make it discreet so it's hidden when disabled, then good. But if it's like anti-virus trials that come on computers that ask you to renew/subscribe, then I won't like it. That's bloatware.

Corporations run off money and do nothing without monetary incentive, especially entertainment companies. So whether it be luring you into a subscription or plainly earning money from ads, they plan on earning more revenue from these new features.

Unless it saves me money on my current cable subscription, I'm not interested.

My cable company isn't supporting this right now so not much changes for me.

Why do I see another increase in gold subscription fees coming in the near future? Have a piece of this cheesecake...good isn't it? ...how about a piece of this pie, everyone loves pie! Now pay me!