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Giant Bombcast 483: Sega Flair Vs. Virtua Hogan

This week we stretch our Arms, crash into the Danger Zone, try and fail to play Friday the 13th, ponder the Far Cry 5 reveal, do some E3 speculatin’, blast through a lightning round, and entertain the idea of a new Seaman?!

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

May. 30 2017

Cast: Jeff, Brad, Ben, Jason

Posted by: Jason

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Nice, just in time for a new cast.

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Nothing like falling asleep to a new ep of bombcast. This new guy is so great.

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e3 scoop: dark bowls, new yoshinoya game

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Lightning round!?

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Time for the bombcast. perfect !

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Seamen look so creepy.

I would have liked to hear some more stuff about the american militias. Like, it seems like the Bombcast crew all know about that stuff, but either it happened so long ago that I was a child or the news just haven't made its way over here, because this is the first I'm hearing about it.

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Yay Bombcast. Whole lot of topics listed here that I'm interested in hearing them talk about.

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Bambino

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Second!

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Did people just hate the GBA Sonic games? Because I remember those as being good Sonic games in that classic style.

As for Streets of Rage, I think Vanillaware would do a good job. Between Odin Sphere, Muramasa and especially Dragon's Crown, they really mastered making beat 'em ups that feel good and worthwhile. Some of that's the leveling, but it never really felt as important to me as the art and gameplay of those games. The people behind that Scott Pilgrim game could probably make another fun one, too. I liked that Scott Pilgrim game a lot. But yeah, just a good spectacle fighter would be nice too. There aren't a ton of those coming out anymore either. I think Bayonetta 2 was the latest one, and that was a Wii U exclusive.

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No fighting game matters until Virtua Fighter comes back. Also, I'm buying Tekken 7? :|

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woot woot! time for a podblast.

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What e3 only 2 weeks away!?!? I thought it was way off in June... oh wait... shit.

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Curious to hear some ARMS impressions. The game played rather well this weekend, so I know I will be disappointed when the duders crap on the controls. :(

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@red720 said:

What e3 only 2 weeks away!?!? I thought it was way off in June... oh wait... shit.

Yeah, this was my exact reaction. I feel like new year's day was just the other day.

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2>1>3>PSP>4

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i feel like the logical endpoint of "dwayne 'the rock' johnson 2020" is that "we regret to inform you the duck is racist" tweet. he's gonna say some dumb shit and it's all going to end in tears

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I can't stand this new Ben dude... can't believe they hired this lame duck

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Talking crap about Guns n Roses and then bought stickers on an app for Linkn Park.

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Jeff's response to whether or not he wanted some rye absolutely killed me.

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as much as i don't like to say a dev is beholden to making a certain type of game forever, that burnout team just needs to make the full spiritual sequel to burnout takedown. with actual courses. and fuck burnout paradise.

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It starts to feel like Threefields is cranking a lot of different physics prototypes out, without being able to use that in a fun game.

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Snus? As in General porsjon? Confused.

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GBEAST will fill in the gaps

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Jeff is right, we need a new NOLF, or at least I need a new NOLF

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Perfect. In time for sleep.

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FOR FUCK'S SAKE! XD That intro was perfect for someone who was going to go to bed.

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I can't exactly explain why, but when Brad said Toma-GO-chi I got very upset.

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Seaman was also filed under this episode from 2015 but it doesn't turn up in the news section for the Seaman category for some reason even though both episodes are filed under Seaman. Bug? Or they just started populing News section recently or something. Edit: Nevermind. I see now that the 2015 episode is filed under Seaman the game and this episode is filed under Seaman the franchise.

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Who on God's green earth could possibly think that Hogan is better than Flair??

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I believe the Warner Bros. Monsters Izzy in San Jose was referring to are King Kong, Godzilla, Mothra, and the other giant monsters from Japan. WB has the rights to them and they're definitely building a shared movie universe for them.

I would not want them in a DC/MK game. Sizes would be way off and cause headaches.

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Curious to hear some ARMS impressions. The game played rather well this weekend, so I know I will be disappointed when the duders crap on the controls. :(

Yeah the motion controls work very well :)
My only concern is if there will be comparable depth to say a Tekken 7. If that is the case, then I hope it'll get very big because it is fun to play and to watch.

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@danryckert: starting some east-west beef just in time for e3! Wooooooooo

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Off the top of my head there's only one piece of video game music that reminds me of the Mortal Kombat movie music and weirdly enough it's from Revelations: Persona.

You know guys they already made a really good modern beat-em up it's called Yakuza 0, perhaps you've heard of it. It's a lot like River City Ransom, but with a cool-guy crime story and goofy side stuff. I thought God Hand was a pretty rad take on that type of game as well. What's not rad is that Shinobi PS2 game. It's most certainly not a character action game, it's a platformer disguised as a character action game. I played it for the first time a few years back and thought it was awful. Much lower than a B game in my eyes.

Every week I pray that the toilet emails get fazed out but I guess that's not happening. I could do with less of these either/or emails as well. I don't mind one really clever one(which we rarely get anyway) but this lightning round format is pretty random and insipid if I'm being honest. Not all of his jokes hit but I really appreciate Ben's willingness to just riff on stuff, Jeff can't keep doing all the heavy lifting when it comes to clownin' around so that bit of comedic energy at least helps breath some life back into this podcast. Thanks as always and keep up the good work.

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The Street Fighter II Animated Movie is one of my favorite video game movies.

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Super bummed that every time in recent memory that Persona 5 has been brought up, it's been to talk in a slightly defeated tone about how "it's good, buuuuuuuut..."

It's awesome when a thing you like is mentioned by people who say they like it on the whole, yet only ever talk about the things they dislike. Invigorating. Especially since a lot of complaints (not just from Ben) are rooted in having played (or simply watched) P4.

God, I really hate being *this guy*, but it really seems like a lot of people are just falling into the "Persona 5 isn't Persona 4!" camp, and that's pretty lame.

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Jeff, Brad, Jason, and Ben are a good podcast team.

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Are these recent podcast titles intended to give me a headache upon reading?

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Super bummed that every time in recent memory that Persona 5 has been brought up, it's been to talk in a slightly defeated tone about how "it's good, buuuuuuuut..."

It's awesome when a thing you like is mentioned by people who say they like it on the whole, yet only ever talk about the things they dislike. Invigorating. Especially since a lot of complaints (not just from Ben) are rooted in having played (or simply watched) P4.

God, I really hate being *this guy*, but it really seems like a lot of people are just falling into the "Persona 5 isn't Persona 4!" camp, and that's pretty lame.

No offense to the team but GB plays a ton of games, way more than a normal person. For like 20 years or more. They get a taste of all the food but only really like smaller more intimate plates if you get my drift. LONG RPGS or ACTION GAMES will not really interest them with busy schedules. Just look at Zelda BOTW, Witcher 3 even the 10 hour dlc couldnt interest them. Its just too much of a time investment. Zelda helped ease things with 15 -1 hour objectives more akin to 2017s gamers who are use to on the go phone tablet experiences imo. That being said Give them a break im sure one or two of them will finish and vouch for the game come GOTY. Honestly if Destiny could get on the 10 a passionate person could explain why the game is good past the skepticism on problems the team has during the first 20 hours or so.

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@nesom said:
@poobumbutt said:

Super bummed that every time in recent memory that Persona 5 has been brought up, it's been to talk in a slightly defeated tone about how "it's good, buuuuuuuut..."

It's awesome when a thing you like is mentioned by people who say they like it on the whole, yet only ever talk about the things they dislike. Invigorating. Especially since a lot of complaints (not just from Ben) are rooted in having played (or simply watched) P4.

God, I really hate being *this guy*, but it really seems like a lot of people are just falling into the "Persona 5 isn't Persona 4!" camp, and that's pretty lame.

No offense to the team but GB plays a ton of games, way more than a normal person. For like 20 years or more. They get a taste of all the food but only really like smaller more intimate plates if you get my drift. LONG RPGS or ACTION GAMES will not really interest them with busy schedules. Just look at Zelda BOTW, Witcher 3 even the 10 hour dlc couldnt interest them. Its just too much of a time investment. Zelda helped ease things with 15 -1 hour objectives more akin to 2017s gamers who are use to on the go phone tablet experiences imo. That being said Give them a break im sure one or two of them will finish and vouch for the game come GOTY. Honestly if Destiny could get on the 10 a passionate person could explain why the game is good past the skepticism on problems the team has during the first 20 hours or so.

PS; I agree the team does seem very defeated when discussing AAA games that they like but dont have time to play or understand why the game is good but just cant click for them. It comes with being critical of stuff. The greater a thing is the more slight problems seem like huge issues. Example: Zelda's food cooking taking long, climbing in rain making you slip and wait for sunshine, breaking weapons all seem trivial when you can bulk up on food and skip animations, experiment with climbing methods and upgrades, and find tons of weapons all later in the game but for a group of fellas playing or stressed to play a huge backlog minor inconveniences become chores that weigh over your head till they fell like their impeding you in your search for fun in your short break. Overall im sure the games they discuss are fine and they are just pointing out anything to ensure everyone buying it gets a fair assessment on things that might not click. Nothing is perfect but that doesnt mean if something was it would be great to you...it would just be a bland thing everyone enjoys cause its inoffensive. I just think the team knows P5 is great and wants to have a more detailed discussion over it which unfortunately muddles into sounding like the game is an awful chore that the enjoy sometimes lol. But i nearly never hear them seem completely positive on a big title besides INSIDE which they loved but eventually when jeff got to playing it was slightly less impressed by but couldnt go against the teams enjoyment since they interpreted the game differently. Its all just a matter of taste and the team at GB has a nuance and specific palette. Try find someone on the team who likes your type of games and stick with their opinion to help assess games you may like. Example jeff doesnt like sonic so dont take it to heart if he hates running fast in a sonic game :)

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@lentfilms: it was especially great when seeing it as a young teen for obvious reasons, on top of the great animation of course.

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Wait... IO's being sold off, along with the Hitman IP, (perhaps) because Square Enix Japan (once again) bollocksed it up (again) with a Final Fantasy game going over time and over budget (again)???

Didn't they try to pull something similar with the Tomb Raider reboots: blaming Western IP / Devs for not being able to compensate for Square Enix Japan's problems with high enough sales???

Slow clap for Square Enix. (This is my I'm Not Surprised Face.)

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as much as i don't like to say a dev is beholden to making a certain type of game forever, that burnout team just needs to make the full spiritual sequel to burnout takedown. with actual courses. and fuck burnout paradise.

Agreed. That series was not improved by going open world.

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@mezmero said:

Every week I pray that the toilet emails get fazed out but I guess that's not happening. I could do with less of these either/or emails as well. I don't mind one really clever one(which we rarely get anyway) but this lightning round format is pretty random and insipid if I'm being honest. Not all of his jokes hit but I really appreciate Ben's willingness to just riff on stuff, Jeff can't keep doing all the heavy lifting when it comes to clownin' around so that bit of comedic energy at least helps breath some life back into this podcast. Thanks as always and keep up the good work.

Spending time on tired ass e-mails instead of talking games in depth is part of the reason the Bombcast has become really boring to me.

They spend too much time on e-mails on both podcasts. At least the East ones are more often interesting.

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@artisanbreads: I thought the same thing. Come on Ben, I thought you were cool.

He used the term dad rock pretty seriously so man I don't want to hear him talk music at all.