Our Officially Unofficial Feud With GamesRadar (They're So Dead)

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Edited By jeff
Had I been there in person, we could have arm wrestled for it.
Had I been there in person, we could have arm wrestled for it.
Though I didn't hear it myself, I guess the GamesRadar podcast crew had some greasy things to say about our review of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. Angry forum threads ensued, which is when I first heard about it. I think I probably slowly shook my head for a bit, then got on with my day. Then Brett Elston got ahold of me to see if I wanted to come on the TalkRadar podcast and talk about the ensuing drama. So I stole Brad's Skype headset and laid it down for around 30 minutes or so.

OK, now you're up to date with the events that led to this moment. We ended up talking about the nature of reviews, the audience's thirst for controversy, and the new releases of the week. Head over to their TalkRadar page to give it a listen.

When it comes to people who review games talking sideways about other people who review games, there's really only one thing that comes to mind. This:

  

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#1  Edited By jeff
Had I been there in person, we could have arm wrestled for it.
Had I been there in person, we could have arm wrestled for it.
Though I didn't hear it myself, I guess the GamesRadar podcast crew had some greasy things to say about our review of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. Angry forum threads ensued, which is when I first heard about it. I think I probably slowly shook my head for a bit, then got on with my day. Then Brett Elston got ahold of me to see if I wanted to come on the TalkRadar podcast and talk about the ensuing drama. So I stole Brad's Skype headset and laid it down for around 30 minutes or so.

OK, now you're up to date with the events that led to this moment. We ended up talking about the nature of reviews, the audience's thirst for controversy, and the new releases of the week. Head over to their TalkRadar page to give it a listen.

When it comes to people who review games talking sideways about other people who review games, there's really only one thing that comes to mind. This:

  

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#3  Edited By dtran1212

ROUND ONE!!  FIGHT!!!

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#4  Edited By PsYuSoFly

lmao AWESOME!!

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#5  Edited By FallopianTube

Are they sure they wanna mess with a site called GIANTBOMB

KICK SOME ASS. Blow some shit up

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#6  Edited By neoepoch

It's time for another video Bomb Crew! ROLL OUT!

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#7  Edited By NateDogg

HAHAHaha

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#8  Edited By miningguyx360

TDar is better than any podcast on the web (construtive critsism)

oh yeah HEY YOU LOOK LIKE A REAL JERK!
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#9  Edited By lukegib

wat is da name of da song in da backround of da video

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#10  Edited By adsapien

I guess the drama that spawned Giant Bomb wasn't enough.  I was hoping for a slag-fest to come out of Eidos' Sith-like antics, but this would suffice too.
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#12  Edited By brokenlegg

We need another internet beef video Jeff!

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#13  Edited By Alphazero

One thing that's clear... Jeff is wittier and faster on his verbal feet than those folks.

OH SNAP! NO HE DIDN'T!

But for real, it's true.

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#14  Edited By SuperMooseman

blap, blap... blap?

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#15  Edited By jakob187

WOOT WOOT!!!

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#16  Edited By MAST

Why do people have such a difficult time understanding that game reviews are just opinions. They are going to differ, big deal. You can't expect to agree with every single one of them. Move on...

And hurray for forum lemmings that are constantly trying to start controversy.  >_>

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#17  Edited By jakob187
miningguyx360 said:
"TDar is better than any podcast on the web (construtive critsism)
oh yeah HEY YOU LOOK LIKE A REAL JERK!"
PAP PAP!!!  And Frazier goes down for da count!!!
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#18  Edited By AdventChild

Gamesradar just got CRITIQUED

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#19  Edited By RedactedProfile

im suddenly reminded why i love this site so much, and why i used to love GameSpot :)

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#20  Edited By BiggerBomb

1. Games Radar = douche bags. amirite or amirite?!?!!?

2. That video is the shit.

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#21  Edited By PLWolf

lukegib:
Bow Down: The Westside Connection

and lol@bringing back the video. hahahaha

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#22  Edited By kingmasters

I just listened to the podcast and go talkradar sucks what do they think there howard stern or something?

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"wat is da name of da song in da backround of da video"

It's called "Bow Down" by Westside Connection

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#24  Edited By jakob187
MAST said:
"Why do people have such a difficult time understanding that game reviews are just opinions. They are going to differ, big deal. You can't expect to agree with every single one of them. Move on...

And hurray for forum lemmings that are constantly trying to start controversy.  >_>"
Dood...chill out.  It's all in fun, fool!  PAP PAP!!!
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And this podcast sucks btw so far. I think they start having Jeff on around 30:00.

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Okay I lied, it's more around 40:00

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#27  Edited By Akira

I just listened to the original podcast where they're slating GiantBomb for giving it 100%. One of the first things the guy says "...I haven't read the review, but..."

So, you're doing a piece on journalistic credibility and responsibility....and you don't do any research? Mmkay.

EDIT: Having listened to the latest podcast, they seem like a bunch of cool guys. I'm glad everyone is friends and not just fighting over page hits, GamesRadar probably got a shedload from all this anyway :)
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#28  Edited By Silver

Does this mean that the feud with GameSpot is over?

Or is this feud in addition to that feud?

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#29  Edited By The_Dude_Abides

Jesus, why even sink yourself down to their level? They remind of these really really annoying radio DJ's we have on the radio here.

Sound quality of their podast is crap too. F*cking amateurs.

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#30  Edited By Sephiroth9997

Those a-holes only picked jax lines to laugh at. 

Racists

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#31  Edited By wrecks

God their podcast sux! sounds like an fm radio morning show.... weak.

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#32  Edited By supermuchbrown

god their podcast is shit ... you shouldn't have given them the time of day  ;)

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#33  Edited By alConn

I like da Giant Bomb kthx.

Seriously, the bombcast makes me laugh every week, I really look forward to listening to it Wednesday morning at work.  Please keep up the great work guys.

"Dude, these guys took a gun and put a chainsaw on it.  DON'T PLAY IT." -Jeff

I laughed my ass off when that was on the thanksgiving week bombcast.  Great stuff.

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#34  Edited By tekmojo

Intimidating.

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#35  Edited By wefwefasdf

Nobody talk to crap about Jeff's reviews man are beat them down... with TooHuman game cases.

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#36  Edited By mackgyver

Anyone who talk smack about GiantBomb and its crew.......PLAP PLAP PLAP!

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#37  Edited By c1337us

Hah ha ha. That was awesome funny.

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#38  Edited By Charleslegrand

Even better the second time

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#39  Edited By Giantkitty

Are we West side or East side? Somebody should make a flash game based on this.

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#40  Edited By Jimbo

Mmmm.  Well this tiff (pretend or otherwise) can only end up being a bit embarassing for all concerned.

Regardless, what people have to keep in mind with the GB rating system is that (for some reason) it's based on 'absence of problems',  rather than 'inclusion of awesomeness'.  It seems to me that any given game starts on 5 stars and will get that so long as the developers haven't dropped the ball on something.

The 5 star description is "Recommend without reservation" - in other words, "You should play this because there isn't anything wrong with it."  I don't think there's any question that the GB reviewers genuinely believe that each game they 5 star meets that requirement - it's just that it's not a very a high target for a game to hit. 

Personally, my preference would be that a 5 star rating should be reserved for games that are solid, obviously, but also bring something new to the table (COD 4's multiplayer structure say) or that take an existing concept and do it to a much higher standard than it's current competition (Bioshock's atmosphere / art / story for example).  I would get far more from a rating system that differentiates between the truly outstanding and the (much more common) 'there's nothing wrong with it' games. 

Take Battlefield: Bad Company for example - it's a solid game, but does it bring anything that I haven't already had from a dozen other games just like it?  Not really.  I feel you could probably make a similar argument for a handful of other 5 starred games on the list.

Given that GB already cherrypicks the games it reviews - therefore making 1* virtually redundant - I feel that they could toughen up the 5* rating without cramping the rest of their scale.  I suspect most people (that care enough to frequent sites like this), care more about easily identifying the creme de la creme than they do about distinguishing between the bad and the terrible (neither of which they will ever buy anyway).

Integrity plainly isn't the issue - integrity is the very reason most of us initially chose to come here in the first place.  The rating system may be too forgiving, but the scores given do match the current rating descriptions. 

That said, the content of the review itself is infinitely more important to me - at least here I can read or watch a review without feeling like some smarmy salesman (who started gaming when Wipeout or GTA 3 made it ok to do so) is just quoting the back of the box at me verbatim.

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#41  Edited By Spiritof

TOASTY!

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#42  Edited By landon

Too Human, it's  a video game.

Yup, that about sums it up.

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#43  Edited By Coleslaw893

ROFL, that video was awesome. Loved the Kevin VanOrd and Hillary Goldstein references.

Time for Giant Bomb to kick some Games Radar @$$.

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#44  Edited By GreggD

BiggerBomb: Go back into your hole of idiocy. They never take themselves seriously, and neither should you.

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#45  Edited By snake6phw

Oh my god Jeff, that was amazing.

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Did you guys actually listen to it? You're missing the point.

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#47  Edited By sickVisionz

Thats one of the best video i've ever seen.  Dude in the background with the GiantBomb shirt as a bandana made it official

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#48  Edited By RHCPfan24

I love that video.  Have for awhile.

Well, I hate when people argue about reviews.  Especially GB's.  These guys know what they are doing, and MKvs.DC is a lot fun.  I played it at a friend's house.

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#49  Edited By Jayzilla

absolute comedy. jeff you are a sucker mc son, and i mean that as a compliment.

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#50  Edited By bartholomew999

srsly, who gives a crap about gamesradar?