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#1701 Edited by Datajack (157 posts) -

@mb: Would be interesting to see in that new thread a bit of a summary of the body of work they've both done, for those of us whom are unfamiliar with their background portfolio.

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#1702 Edited by Mike (17991 posts) -

@datajack said:

@mb: Would be interesting to see in that new thread a bit of a summary of the body of work they've both done, for those of us whom are unfamiliar with their background portfolio.

Yeah that would be great! Sadly I'm not familiar enough with either one of the new guys to do it. I'm sure Rorie or Jeff is writing something up as we speak, or at least planning to. It would be totally fine if someone from the community that is familiar with Dan & Jason wanted to do it, though.

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#1703 Posted by Danteveli (1441 posts) -

@mb said:

@marc said:

Holy lord what has this thread turned into? Jeff hired the best people for the job. They just happen to be white dudes. It is not a big deal. If it were a woman or someone not white who were most qualified for the job, I'm sure they would have gotten it. People who make a big deal about these things are half of the damn problem.

Evidently you're not allowed to hire the best people for the job if those people are white males. That's insensitive and does not support diversity!

That's a pretty dumb misrepresentation of what people are unhappy about. No one is saying Dan and Jason aren't qualified and that they won't work well on the site. From what I've seen (heard, technically) of Dan on the Powerbombcast he seems like a cool guy, but you're treating 'diversity' and 'qualifications' as though they're two ends of the same axis which is supremely fucked up.

e: To be extra blatantly clear, no one is saying that Jeff is some racist, sexist monster for doing this. He's a great guy and I'm sure he made his choices based on who he thought would work best. I haven't even seen anyone angry about this, just kinda sad because this is the same sort of thing that happens all the time.

To be honest someone should say all that stuff about Jeff. Or did Patrick forgot about his crusade when its closer to home? Its stupid and untrue but that would be right thing to do after going after everyone else about everything that could be viewed as racist/sexist. Maybe thats just me.

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#1704 Posted by development (3158 posts) -

Listening to the new Bombcast... super hyped for the future of the site now. Both the West Coast guys and Vinny and Alex in New York, along with lone Klip Klop.

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#1705 Posted by chubbs21 (67 posts) -

I have much respect for Dan and everything he does. I'm super happy to see him here. Already excited to see his some articles from him.

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#1706 Posted by TruthTellah (9821 posts) -
@mb said:

If someone were to start a new topic welcoming the new guys to the fold, maybe we could put all this behind us and finally move forward. I just hope the welcome topic isn't turned into some kind of platform to argue about Giant Bomb's hiring decisions or toss out a bunch of backhanded insults against the new guys. Anyone new is going to have a big enough uphill battle as it is just getting acclimated to everything.

Considering your comments just now about potentially locking a non-staff thread for addressing similar issues which you may disagree with and feel like mocking, I can understand some hesitance from duders to make a separate non-staff topic welcoming the new guys to the fold.

When you said this thread "would have been" locked, you indicated that staff-created threads like this are apparently the only safe haven from quieting those with any potential reservations about the new hires. I find it hard to believe that is the genuine policy of the moderators or staff.

I agree that Dan and Jason have a stiff enough challenge as it is; I've been around here long enough to be concerned about the eventual "The new guys are ruining things!" threads and comments. But members should feel that they can express reservations and concerns about the selection without fearing that they will just have their concerns mocked or threads locked.

Despite having any reservations, I welcome them with open arms. They are part of this community now, and I'm glad they're here. I hope they do great. Yet, if I didn't feel quite so excited, I would hope I would be able to freely express that without fear of moderators that might not feel the same way.

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#1707 Posted by deactivated-5b531a34b946c (1251 posts) -

@mb said:

@datajack said:

@mb: Would be interesting to see in that new thread a bit of a summary of the body of work they've both done, for those of us whom are unfamiliar with their background portfolio.

Yeah that would be great! Sadly I'm not familiar enough with either one of the new guys to do it. I'm sure Rorie or Jeff is writing something up as we speak, or at least planning to. It would be totally fine if someone from the community that is familiar with Dan & Jason wanted to do it, though.

I was going to, but the "start a new topic" button takes me to a blank, white page. It'd be nice to set this thread and hopefully the diversity arguments behind us - as well as getting the community familiar with the new guys' past work. Personally, I have no idea what they were up to up until now, besides knowing that they're quite qualified for the jobs they filled.

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#1708 Posted by BeachThunder (15130 posts) -

Well shit, I'm going to have to learn how to spell Oestreicher...

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#1709 Edited by Mike (17991 posts) -

@truthtellah: The thread *would* have been closed pages and pages ago if it wasn't started by Rorie due to all kinds of off topic rants and arguing, it has nothing to do with my opinion on what is being said by some people.

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#1710 Posted by Mike (17991 posts) -

@mb said:

@datajack said:

@mb: Would be interesting to see in that new thread a bit of a summary of the body of work they've both done, for those of us whom are unfamiliar with their background portfolio.

Yeah that would be great! Sadly I'm not familiar enough with either one of the new guys to do it. I'm sure Rorie or Jeff is writing something up as we speak, or at least planning to. It would be totally fine if someone from the community that is familiar with Dan & Jason wanted to do it, though.

I was going to, but the "start a new topic" button takes me to a blank, white page. It'd be nice to set this thread and hopefully the diversity arguments behind us - as well as getting the community familiar with the new guys' past work. Personally, I have no idea what they were up to up until now, besides knowing that they're quite qualified for the jobs they filled.

If you go to General (or any other forum besides the new topics feed) you'll be able to start a new thread from there. It's a known bug that is affecting almost everyone right now.

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#1711 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

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I would rather have them hire someone who they are comfortable with and not because they need to fill a quota.

This kind of language doesn't help things :|. (Also, I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to say that the staff is uncomfortable around minorities, but just alerting you to that potential faux pas.)

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#1712 Posted by ramprat (63 posts) -

@video_game_king: To be fair, this whole thread seem to be all doom and gloom with who they should hire.

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#1713 Posted by deactivated-5914f5c50a1c5 (277 posts) -

@ramprat said:

I would rather have them hire someone who they are comfortable with and not because they need to fill a quota.

This kind of language doesn't help things :|. (Also, I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to say that the staff is uncomfortable around minorities, but just alerting you to that potential faux pas.)

I don't think anyone would infer that. Chill out.

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#1714 Edited by HerbieBug (4228 posts) -

Thread concluded. Goal fulfilled. Lock it down! :D

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#1715 Edited by TruthTellah (9821 posts) -
@mb said:

@truthtellah: The thread *would* have been closed pages and pages ago if it wasn't started by Rorie due to all kinds of off topic rants and arguing, it has nothing to do with my opinion on what is being said by some people.

Thanks for clarifying, @mb. It seemed like you were pretty much implying that it was the mentions of diversity(which weren't even common in the last few pages of silliness) when you responded twice to people complaining very clearly about those of us talking about a desire for diversity.

Along with your comment mocking those who might dare to bring up diversity and threatening a member objecting to your dismissal of her concerns, I think it's reasonable for people to conclude you were more bothered by talk of diversity than any off topic ranting.

If you're saying that's not the case, that's great, but I think you can understand how your responses could easily suggest otherwise.

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#1716 Posted by Jennifyre (494 posts) -

Too bad we didn't get a female new hire. I am disappoint.

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#1717 Posted by BradBrains (2260 posts) -

Fuck guys, yes there are some people who will complain anytime a white person gets a job but just talking about having another perspective isn't bad thing. People take way too much offense from this stuff.

Can we just close this thread and get a positive welcome thread going?

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#1718 Posted by conmulligan (1894 posts) -

For those similarly dejected that the diversity battle was lost, Patrick's Twitter fav's are somewhat comforting. At least someone's listening, which is about all I can ask for at this point.

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#1720 Edited by GaspoweR (4899 posts) -

@herbiebug said:

Thread concluded. Goal fulfilled. Lock it down! :D

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#1721 Edited by Dallas_Raines (2269 posts) -

Well, the intense, apocalyptic anger flowing through twitter right now makes me glad my internet will soon be shut off for the forseeable being.

I totally understand the anger and frustration people feel because of being mislead, but I just can't handle half of my twitter feed boiling with negativity.

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#1722 Posted by bboymaestro (744 posts) -

It was fun watching this unfold, layer by layer it kept escalating. I was glad I even got an application in, first time since graduating I really went full steam toward a job/career! Wouldn't mind a second chance, though! (maybe even the BEAST will open its gates...)

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#1723 Posted by ryanmgraef (243 posts) -

Fuck all if this BULLSHIT. Them dudes are alright!

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#1724 Posted by Rorie (5672 posts) -

I've closed this thread because it has the old forum problem of "clicking on the last topic page link doesn't actually take you there." There's a new thread for this over here.

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