Patrick wouldn't like this at all.

I guess you wouldn't be part of the grand majority of people who praised The Last of Us for its depiction of violence at that E3 demo with the guy begging for his life and getting a shotgun to the face.

guys i think this is supposed to be about a funny conan video where he plays a game.

That spike through the head was brutal, but it's not like we haven't seen worse. Like your character getting his head chomped off in Dead Space, for example. Does a game having an explicit horror theme make it more palatable for some people?

That demo just made the protagonist come off like a psychopath.

On the subject of Tomb Raider, I look forward to playing it. I'm really digging the direction that this game is going.

Yeah, this. So everybody, I didn't mean anything by the title, I was just kind of poking fun of the people who mention Patrick whenever sexism comes up in a game(I love Patrick), I thought I worded it so you'd see that, but I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough :S. I also posted this in the Tomb Raider forum but it got moved to General Discussion, I guess since it turned into what it turned into which I honestly wasn't expecting, silly me I know, so I'm sorry for starting a shit storm. Mostly I just thought it was a funny video, but like others have said I do find this video series that Conan does to be interesting on how a casual or less than casual gamer reacts to things in video games that we've just gotten used to and don't even think of anymore because we've grown so accustomed to it.

no hard feelings against you, at least you were vaguely poking fun at it and not spewing actual irrational bile-hate like some here do. (just watched the nolan north video and i seriously have NO idea what people are raging about, save a little slight goofy awkwardness. guess i opened that can of worms myself. :) )

thanks for posting it and i enjoyed it!

Who cares if Patrick don't like it? Coco is awesome! Shocker men like women.

Conan's Clueless Gamer bits are fucking hilarious. All that other shit you guys are arguing about is retarded.

"There's a ship."

"I know that's a ship."

eh, patrick seems like the kinda guy that would lecture a black guy about why he shouldnt like django unchained after walking out of it happy. he's the standard well-off white male that jumps to causes he doesn't honestly care about to make himself feel better about himself.

ive sorta stopped giving a shit about patricks opinion awhile ago.

he's the "hey dude thats offensive" killjoy when someones telling a joke at a party.

Patrick literally has nothing to do with anything in this topic?

oh man, that video was great. The river death was fucked up though D:

Anyway, can't wait to play this game. I didn't even know it was being released next week.

If only we could invent a way to convert stupid internet controversies into energy. I think we'd become a Kardashev type II civilisation over night.

I find it hilarious that Patrick has written three articles (that I've seen) about sexism and is now labeled as some easily offended, extremist, feminist. Get over it dudes.

edit: I don't even think he has said anything negative about the game. Why is anyone even talking about him in this thread? I hear more people complain about feminist than I hear feminist complain.

I love that spike-through-the-head death, so brutal and yet it isn't particularly gory.

@artemesia: LMAO So What would you have the game relay to you after failing something? Have it go the ol' 'Positive Reinforcement' route and baby you!? Jesus! Messing up in dire situations like in Tomb Raider means your ass. If the developers just removed any kind of adverse outcome because they were too grueling, they'd be putting out an unfinished product.

Close your eyes next time.

I didn't see anyone flipping out when Leon got killed a thousand ways in RE4. Oh wait, that's because he's a man. Nevermind then.

That is just one of the many facets of amusement in this thread.

lol wow

You write one article about sexism and suddenly, the internet labels you all kind of things. Keep going, dude. You're doing great.

The last straw for me was when some guy at Gearbox dared to use the term "girlfriend mode" to explain an optional feature meant to introduce non-gamers to Borderlands 2, and allow them to contribute. Despite the fact that this term was used by loads of gamers and journalists alike to describe a feature of Mario Galaxy, and NO ONE CARED. Some people even posted claiming that they heard Patrick himself using the term when talking about Mario Galaxy on the Bombcast, although I'm not sure if that's true or not. Then a year or two later, people make a big deal out of someone else saying the same damn thing, likely to get hits for their shitty gaming blogs during slow news day.

It would be like me using the word idiot, and then people saying everywhere suddenly deciding that the term relates to the mentally disabled, and should be considered as offensive as "retarded."

Then, Gearbox president Randy Pitchford, releases a PR announcement saying that the guy was specifically talking about HIS girlfriend, and said that there's no room for sexism at Gearbox. It was at this point, and this is the last straw part, that professional gaming journalist Patrick Klepek reached out to Pitchford via Twitter and said the following:

Sorry, @DuvalMagic. You're wrong on this one, and it's Gearbox's fault it's blowing up. Phrasing matters. Words matter. Apologize, move on.

https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/235043338846339072

Since then, I'm officially a Patrick detractor.

To be fair, he's written at least five in the last year alone, not to mention the example I posted above.

@spaceinsomniac: I guess you don't like Jeff anymore either?

But...I mean it's a comedy show, of course that's going to happen.

@damisterchief said:

Good lord, that is so unnecessary.

The most offensive part about this game is how bad Lara's British accent is. Melodramatic and extremely over the top.

How dare games depict hazardous situations accurately. I mean it's not like people ever get impaled in real life. Never.

Yeah it's gruesome but so what? If anything to me seeing that happen would make me not want to fuck up again because it was pretty unsettling, then again I also found the Mortal Kombat pit fatalities (spikes) to be some of the most gruesome too.

@milkman said:

@spaceinsomniac: I guess you don't like Jeff anymore either?

My issue with Patrick is mostly him demanding an apology, which I felt just made him look like an ass. Just as it's wrong for someone to suggest that they automatically know Patrick's thoughts when it comes to a situation, I think it was wrong for Patrick to refuse to accept the initial Gearbox explanation, and instead continue to vilify the man / company for a few poorly chosen words.

He could have just accepted Gearbox's stance that there's no room for sexism at the company with a simple "glad to hear it," but no, he had to demand an apology for an an informal term that both he and Giant Bomb pretty much ignored, until it became some sort of bandwagon issue.

God he is getting old... so... so...old. Oh God!!! I'm getting old!!!

I am indeed still here. Can't get rid of me that easily! XD

But yeah, I am stoked for this game! Haven't been this excited for a Croft game since like Legends and actually most games since Uncharted!

Yeah how dare Patrick write about a subject that is apparent in games and obviously on this fucking website by the tone of the op, Jesus no one is forcing anyone to read those articles he writes etc.

@spaceinsomniac: Don't really see a problem with that tweet. I'm Interpreting it as" You're only making things worse by trying to talk yourself out of it. Apologize and everyone will forget about it".

Yeah, but LP was banned for awhile and no one was sure why but it was just a glitch in the system and...

Uh. OK jason86, I can forgive, but I don't think I can ever forget.

Hearing him talk about the game on the bombcast without sounding like he had actually played it was incredibly annoying. So there's some of this in it, who fucking cares? As someone mentioned, Leon gets his head sawed off a bunch of times in RE4. Mortal Kombat is based on completely obliterating your opponent. I have never seen this kind of backlash over any other game, but suddenly it's too much? Come on.

The Last of Us demo's violence fit from the survival-horror aspect of the title. People just don't expect this kind of visceral, in-your-face bloodshed from a TR game. I'm not sure if it fits the character either, even if CD has rebooted the game in the "gritty" survival direction.

It's suddenly too much because the character has boobs.

Let's just make Lara a man who enchants his enemies with rainbows and kittens while on a quest to find the cutest unicorn EVER. That should make everyone happy.

Funny to see a bunch of people hate on Patrick for his opinions but when Jeff had some pretty negative things to say about Tomb Raider after last years E3 when they said "You'll want to protect Lara" no one said anything.

I mildly chuckled at the Conan video.

As my first exposure to Conan, that was hilarious. The game looks pretty cool. That river death is really horrific and I get what they mean when they say you want to protect her because when I am going through that game, I am going to make sure that doesn't happen. It's incredibly unsettling because it hangs there for just a little too long. I don't usually react much to video game violence because it never looks all that realistic but that hit me pretty hard. In games like Dead Space, you don't really see a face struggling, he's in his robot suit and you don't get to see the pain he is going through. Isaac's deaths are also pretty quick but when you are looking into the eyes of the person as they are dying, it's fucked up. If they were trying to make me feel terrible, then they succeed.

Yeah, Patrick's anti-Conan O'Brien stance is notorious.

No one said anything? You must have missed the backlash with people saying the situation was being blown out of proportion. It was around the same time as "Girlfriend Mode" and people thought the reaction to that was stupid as well as the term had been thrown around for years already and had been used to describe the assists from a 2nd player in Super Mario Galaxy.

It then came out that the lead writer for the game was Rhianna Pratchett. You can imaged it was quite a shock when all the white knights learned that the imaginary misogynistic white male writing all these "sexist" scenarios for Lara was actually a woman.

http://www.edge-online.com/features/tomb-raider-writer-rhianna-pratchett-on-controversy-and-characterisation/

The response of a gaming press and public, many of whom had not even seen the trailer let alone played the scene in context, was a source of frustration to Pratchett. Not least because at the time of the furor she had yet to be announced as one of the writers working on the project.

“It got people talking and thinking about character and the relationship between characters and females. The debate had a value to it. I just wish there had been more restraint and people had waited to judge it in context. People were assuming you were white, straight, middle class American man.”

@oscar__explosion: I don't know. I kinda feel like there going for an incredibly harsh brutal environment, something a kin to Dead Space. The brutal deaths are supposed to reinforce the bleakness of the world, so it's less about the character and more about the world their building.

I figured it was going to be a link to an I.Q. test.

Patrick's probably a Leno fan. Fucking cyborg piece of shit.

Wait, so what does this have to do with Patrick? You may not agree with the guy, and find him hypersensitive or whatever, but continually singling out a staff member like this is really shitty.

Nerves are still firing for some moments after impact, so no.

Some of you are way to invested, almost obsessed with this topic. I don't have any idea why Patrick would care about this.

Replicants aren't people.

Why should someone say anything? How was saying that in any way wrong? Our society has always protected the health and well-being of women FAR more than it protects men in any form. I agree it's the definition of the word sexist, but so are the laws pertaining to issues such as rape and domestic violence. This guy didn't say anything that hasn't already been completely accepted by our society.

I watched that last night after @willsmith posted it on twitter. I laughed my ass off. That was one of the funniest video game related things I've seen in a while.

If you are taking any of that shit seriously, than you are missing the whole point. Calm down guys.