"@Black_Rose :Nobody is exiled, this is dumb
Exactly what I think. Forgo the hellos, goodbyes, etc. and I think it would be better.
Edit: If Karmum is exiled, then I should be too, because I can see the mod's side as well."
PLEASE READ! - Why Bomb Squad was locked!
This topic is locked from further discussion.
"Hamz said:Thanks. And i have read through this entire topic, a topic i made out of respect for the community, and all i've seen is the same trend in most of the posts. "Bomb Squad isn't spam, it had good discussion, unlock the thread, mods suck, Karmum is sucking up, trolls shouldn't have been the reason it was locked etc"."Closing of Bomb Squad was not solely because of trolling, it was mainly down to spam. Call it discussion if you will but having a topic of 4000 posts where people say "hey guys im drinking some coffee!" and a mass of replies are all similar too "coffee owns", "hey", "ye i like cofffee" etc is just spam. It can be done in a blog, PM, IRC or some form of instant messaging service.Hamz makes good points in this post. "
Off Topic is for non games related discussion but neither is it for general chatroom stuff such as "hey guys how is everyone, i just got back from eating dinner". You all have an IRC channel that you use, do it in there. Not to mention that the BS topic was frequented by a small number of users and we took the utilitarian decision to close it for the greater good of the community. We had recieved a lot of complains about the topic from people and the main issue was it had nothing but spam in it and pointless discussion that could be had elsewhere.
And Pleasureizmine you really have no right to shout and complain about Bomb Squad being locked. You're one of the biggest contributors to the spamming in those topics and apart of the reason they got closed."
And like i said the BS topic wasn't locked just because of trolling. And Pleasureizmine you can't deny you were the biggest spammer in the Bomb Squad topics.
"Hamz said:The point about the thread was that, regardless of how much "spam" you believed to be in there, it was all contained in one thread. Why would people complain about a thread they could easily not click on? If they were complaining because they post on there, and they wanted it to be a better place to post, they still lose! This whole thing is a lose-lose situation for the users, and you know it. There's no winning in this."Closing of Bomb Squad was not solely because of trolling, it was mainly down to spam. Call it discussion if you will but having a topic of 4000 posts where people say "hey guys im drinking some coffee!" and a mass of replies are all similar too "coffee owns", "hey", "ye i like cofffee" etc is just spam. It can be done in a blog, PM, IRC or some form of instant messaging service.Hamz makes good points in this post. "
Off Topic is for non games related discussion but neither is it for general chatroom stuff such as "hey guys how is everyone, i just got back from eating dinner". You all have an IRC channel that you use, do it in there. Not to mention that the BS topic was frequented by a small number of users and we took the utilitarian decision to close it for the greater good of the community. We had recieved a lot of complains about the topic from people and the main issue was it had nothing but spam in it and pointless discussion that could be had elsewhere.
And Pleasureizmine you really have no right to shout and complain about Bomb Squad being locked. You're one of the biggest contributors to the spamming in those topics and apart of the reason they got closed."
What is this preventing? Keeping "spam" out of one topic that doesn't matter? It's not even entirely consisted of spam. The point of Off-Topic is to just have a place to chat. That's why there's a part of the forums devoted to it. You don't need to download any bullshit and find your way to the chat. You're making it unnecessarily difficult to chat with a few people.
It's ridiculous. Let us Bomb Squadders have our thread back. It never hurt anything.
"Hulk said:I've never stated that mods suck. I'm only stating that the action taken here by the mods has been pretty unnecessary."Hamz said:Thanks. And i have read through this entire topic, a topic i made out of respect for the community, and all i've seen is the same trend in most of the posts. "Bomb Squad isn't spam, it had good discussion, unlock the thread, mods suck, Karmum is sucking up, trolls shouldn't have been the reason it was locked etc"."Closing of Bomb Squad was not solely because of trolling, it was mainly down to spam. Call it discussion if you will but having a topic of 4000 posts where people say "hey guys im drinking some coffee!" and a mass of replies are all similar too "coffee owns", "hey", "ye i like cofffee" etc is just spam. It can be done in a blog, PM, IRC or some form of instant messaging service.Hamz makes good points in this post. "
Off Topic is for non games related discussion but neither is it for general chatroom stuff such as "hey guys how is everyone, i just got back from eating dinner". You all have an IRC channel that you use, do it in there. Not to mention that the BS topic was frequented by a small number of users and we took the utilitarian decision to close it for the greater good of the community. We had recieved a lot of complains about the topic from people and the main issue was it had nothing but spam in it and pointless discussion that could be had elsewhere.
And Pleasureizmine you really have no right to shout and complain about Bomb Squad being locked. You're one of the biggest contributors to the spamming in those topics and apart of the reason they got closed."
And like i said the BS topic wasn't locked just because of trolling. And Pleasureizmine you can't deny you were the biggest spammer in the Bomb Squad topics."
"The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have.
"The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?Yeah well, they are the Mods are what are we..nothing!!!
It's almost laughable now."
"DarthMaul said:No... we're making a fuss because we can't have a simple chat here, not because of the topic itself."The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
I like chatting with people about their lives and what they're doing and whatnot. It's ridiculous to not allow that.
"DarthMaul said:You do realize that if you added up all those posts in those forums you will have about oh..8000+ posts..not just another topic as you would suggest Hamz"The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
"Hamz said:Its a gaming website, the Off Topic section isn't really mean't for social networking needs. Places like MySpace, Facebook and Bebo can do that for you. Or better yeat MSN which is instant messaging, IRC etc"DarthMaul said:No... we're making a fuss because we can't have a simple chat here, not because of the topic itself."The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
I like chatting with people about their lives and what they're doing and whatnot. It's ridiculous to not allow that.
"
"DarthMaul said:That's why it's called Off-Topic... It's for everything else..."Hamz said:Its a gaming website, the Off Topic section isn't really mean't for social networking needs. Places like MySpace, Facebook and Bebo can do that for you. Or better yeat MSN which is instant messaging, IRC etc""DarthMaul said:No... we're making a fuss because we can't have a simple chat here, not because of the topic itself."The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
I like chatting with people about their lives and what they're doing and whatnot. It's ridiculous to not allow that.
"
"DarthMaul said:WHAT? Do you not know how forums work?!?! That's the point of an Off-Topic forum, for discussion not about gaming (chatting about lives, random things, everything except gaming)."Hamz said:Its a gaming website, the Off Topic section isn't really mean't for social networking needs. Places like MySpace, Facebook and Bebo can do that for you. Or better yeat MSN which is instant messaging, IRC etc""DarthMaul said:No... we're making a fuss because we can't have a simple chat here, not because of the topic itself."The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
I like chatting with people about their lives and what they're doing and whatnot. It's ridiculous to not allow that.
"
Jesus Christ this place is insane.
"Hamz said:Exactly...personally I dont have a problem with the IRC rooms, they are not bad. Although, I have to say that you guys are going doing a very bad path(The mods)...you are going to lose all respect if you keep up your antics."DarthMaul said:That's why it's called Off-Topic... It's for everything else...""Hamz said:Its a gaming website, the Off Topic section isn't really mean't for social networking needs. Places like MySpace, Facebook and Bebo can do that for you. Or better yeat MSN which is instant messaging, IRC etc""DarthMaul said:No... we're making a fuss because we can't have a simple chat here, not because of the topic itself."The more and more I think about it the more I think how fucking stupid this is; stopping users from a forum from chatting with each other on the forum?The same can be said about how much of a fuss a small number of you are kicking up over one topic being locked :)
It's almost laughable now."
We lock topics daily, and no one else kicks up a fuss about it like a lot of people who have posted in here have."
I like chatting with people about their lives and what they're doing and whatnot. It's ridiculous to not allow that.
"
"That's why it's called Off-Topic... It's for everything else..."Just because its an Off Topic board doesn't mean you can post everything you want in it, we have limitations on what reall deserves to be posted in here. And we felt having a topic like Bomb Squad was not needed not in its current state.
"dreDREb13 said:Exactly. I get that. That's why one thread kept all the random discussion in there. It's where you go if you feel a comment you want to make doesn't deserve a thread. The forums are better with it. And even then, the thread garnered some great discussion."That's why it's called Off-Topic... It's for everything else..."Just because its an Off Topic board doesn't mean you can post everything you want in it, we have limitations on what reall deserves to be posted in here. And we felt having a topic like Bomb Squad was not needed not in its current state."
I just don't get why you can't at least make an experimental one. Everyone seemed fine with first ones...
"Off topic is not synonymous with spam, off topic exists for the discussion of things unrelated to video games."That topic wasn't spam. In the end, yes, it became out of control, but that's only because a troll made it that way. In the end, that was the cause of it all, and it's unfair.
"Off topic is not synonymous with spam, off topic exists for the discussion of things unrelated to video games."And to add onto that there are limits to what can be discussed. And everyday "life" stuff, while fun for some, is generally best left for websites like Myspace and blogs etc. Off Topic is not you're personal social networking place, perhaps if people posted more in the game related boards they could discuss things and make friends and socialise.
As it stands we will not be unlocking Bomb Squad anytime soon, for now its staying locked and perhaps one day we will start it up. I'm not saying its definately going to happen but things change.
whatever your motives/reasoning might have been, just know that you guys have probably done more harm than good today...
I think the mods just had a lot to deal with, a lot of off-topic threads like the "rate this thread" stuff and the WAYLT, and in their decisions they decided BS had to go to. I think maybe BS's closure was, in part, due to the overwhelming day of trolls.
I think some of the mods are seeing the BS thread as a way to up our post counts, but a lot of us don't care about the post counts and that's why saying "hello, goodbye," etc. isn't that big of a deal to them. If there was a way to disable post counts, I don't think most of us BombSquaders would care, but I can't speak for everyone.
"I think the mods just had a lot to deal with, a lot of off-topic threads like the "rate this thread" stuff and the WAYLT, and in their decisions they decided BS had to go to. I think maybe BS's closure was, in part, due to the overwhelming day of trolls.Yeah, I really dont get the whole point of the post count system..it is just another avenue to incite competition...in this case over something very silly.
I think some of the mods are seeing the BS thread as a way to up our post counts, but a lot of us don't care about the post counts and that's why saying "hello, goodbye," etc. isn't that big of a deal to them. If there was a way to disable post counts, I don't think most of us BombSquaders would care, but I can't speak for everyone.
"
"BoG said:BS fell well within the forum guidelines that I was made aware of. Really, for such a community oriented site, I don't see how a thing like Bomb Squad could be considered detrimental. It adds to the feeling of community, gives users a place to hang out together withouthaving to resort to an external service, and is a great place to meet and chat with new people. People who want that experience chill in BS, people who don't just pass it over."Off topic is not synonymous with spam, off topic exists for the discussion of things unrelated to video games."And to add onto that there are limits to what can be discussed. And everyday "life" stuff, while fun for some, is generally best left for websites like Myspace and blogs etc. Off Topic is not you're personal social networking place, perhaps if people posted more in the game related boards they could discuss things and make friends and socialise.
As it stands we will not be unlocking Bomb Squad anytime soon, for now its staying locked and perhaps one day we will start it up. I'm not saying its definately going to happen but things change."
And I really do hope you guys seriously take into consideration our complaints, instead of saying: "BS is dead and that's final.", because I've seen that kind of close-minded moderation staff strangle the life out of too many forums to want that to happen here. I really believe we have good points, and we would love to be listened to instead of being brushed off because we're irrelevant.
And if you're not convinced that people actually like BS, I'm fully convinced to list off those 20 users I mentioned before, all of which are valuable members of the community.
Yeah I don't see what's wrong with saying "hello/goodbye" to a fellow poster. We all try to be nice to one another, and believe it or not, not all of us are doing it for the "+1".
I think the mods need to give us a break, I treat the BS/RC threads the same as if I'm engaged in a real life conversation, where one greets the other and asks how their day is going etc.
"Yeah I don't see what's wrong with saying "hello/goodbye" to a fellow poster. We all try to be nice to one another, and believe it or not, not all of us are doing it for the "+1".It is not acceptable because it is not a chat room, it is a forum.
I think the mods need to give us a break, I treat the BS/RC threads the same as if I'm engaged in a real life conversation, where one greets the other and asks how their day is going etc."
Mods, no one gives a shit about their post count. Apparently that's the reason behind this; you feel people are just +1ing.
Get rid of the post counter and then maybe you wont be so hard on us for saying hello and goodbye in a topic on the Off-Topic forum. People say hello and goodbye out of politeness and it's part of discussion. Saying what you like is part of discussion. Agreeing is part of normal discussion activity. Stop caring about whether or not you feel people are just +1ing. I doubt anyone gives a shit about their post count. If they do, then lol, that's just silly. Having a lot of posts means absolutely nothing.
Just bring back our topic so we can stop complaining and move on with the life of this site cuz it's going downhill right now in my opinion.
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Edit: saying hello and goodbye is not fucking spam! It's normal, everyday discussion.
Know what I just noticed?
Quite a few people in the SH, just said "Goodnight I'm going to bed" and there is no +1 post count there.
"Jolly_Lolly said:Is not a forum nothing but a list of themed chatrooms?"Yeah I don't see what's wrong with saying "hello/goodbye" to a fellow poster. We all try to be nice to one another, and believe it or not, not all of us are doing it for the "+1".It is not acceptable because it is not a chat room, it is a forum."
I think the mods need to give us a break, I treat the BS/RC threads the same as if I'm engaged in a real life conversation, where one greets the other and asks how their day is going etc."
"Jolly_Lolly said:AN OFF TOPIC FORUM! Who gives a shit if people say hello and goodbye, it's discussion. It's normal."Yeah I don't see what's wrong with saying "hello/goodbye" to a fellow poster. We all try to be nice to one another, and believe it or not, not all of us are doing it for the "+1".It is not acceptable because it is not a chat room, it is a forum."
I think the mods need to give us a break, I treat the BS/RC threads the same as if I'm engaged in a real life conversation, where one greets the other and asks how their day is going etc."
Chat rooms are too complicated. We're essentially in a dazzled up chat room anyways.
"Mods, no one gives a shit about their post count. Apparently that's the reason behind this; you feel people are just +1ing.Today at work, my boss demoted me because of this so-called "everyday discussion".
Get rid of the post counter and then maybe you wont be so hard on us for saying hello and goodbye in a topic on the Off-Topic forum. People say hello and goodbye out of politeness and it's part of discussion. Saying what you like is part of discussion. Agreeing is part of normal discussion activity. Stop caring about whether or not you feel people are just +1ing. I doubt anyone gives a shit about their post count. If they do, then lol, that's just silly. Having a lot of posts means absolutely nothing.
Just bring back our topic so we can stop complaining and move on with the life of this site cuz it's going downhill right now in my opinion.
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Edit: saying hello and goodbye is not fucking spam! It's normal, everyday discussion."
Me: Good morning, Mrs. Trudel!
Mrs. Trudel: OMFG NO SPAMMING. -1/hour
"DarthMaul said:XFD"Mods, no one gives a shit about their post count. Apparently that's the reason behind this; you feel people are just +1ing.Today at work, my boss demoted me because of this so-called "everyday discussion".
Get rid of the post counter and then maybe you wont be so hard on us for saying hello and goodbye in a topic on the Off-Topic forum. People say hello and goodbye out of politeness and it's part of discussion. Saying what you like is part of discussion. Agreeing is part of normal discussion activity. Stop caring about whether or not you feel people are just +1ing. I doubt anyone gives a shit about their post count. If they do, then lol, that's just silly. Having a lot of posts means absolutely nothing.
Just bring back our topic so we can stop complaining and move on with the life of this site cuz it's going downhill right now in my opinion.
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Edit: saying hello and goodbye is not fucking spam! It's normal, everyday discussion."
Me: Good morning, Mrs. Trudel!
Mrs. Trudel: OMFG NO SPAMMING. -1/hour"
"BombermanKiIIer said:I lol'd at that xD"DarthMaul said:XFD""Mods, no one gives a shit about their post count. Apparently that's the reason behind this; you feel people are just +1ing.Today at work, my boss demoted me because of this so-called "everyday discussion".
Get rid of the post counter and then maybe you wont be so hard on us for saying hello and goodbye in a topic on the Off-Topic forum. People say hello and goodbye out of politeness and it's part of discussion. Saying what you like is part of discussion. Agreeing is part of normal discussion activity. Stop caring about whether or not you feel people are just +1ing. I doubt anyone gives a shit about their post count. If they do, then lol, that's just silly. Having a lot of posts means absolutely nothing.
Just bring back our topic so we can stop complaining and move on with the life of this site cuz it's going downhill right now in my opinion.
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Edit: saying hello and goodbye is not fucking spam! It's normal, everyday discussion."
Me: Good morning, Mrs. Trudel!
Mrs. Trudel: OMFG NO SPAMMING. -1/hour"
"Isn't it a bit ironic the ones who claim they don't care about their post count are still posting in here, with the same argument, thus, "+ 1ing" your post count?Or ya know... we could be trying to have an intelligent discourse with the mods and get this problem resolved in a way that is satisfactory for everyone. That might be it too.
Yeah."
"Jolly_Lolly said:Yeah, well guess what? We've had, what, 2 RC's and 2 BS's? You guy's didn't mind it back then, as I recall you even made one of them. The only reason I can see why you would lock it is because of the trolls, but then again you guy's seemed to manage fine when it came to them, so why the sudden change of heart?"Yeah I don't see what's wrong with saying "hello/goodbye" to a fellow poster. We all try to be nice to one another, and believe it or not, not all of us are doing it for the "+1".It is not acceptable because it is not a chat room, it is a forum."
I think the mods need to give us a break, I treat the BS/RC threads the same as if I'm engaged in a real life conversation, where one greets the other and asks how their day is going etc."
If you wanted to prove a point, you should have restricted these types of threads from the beginning. But since the mods didn't, I just can't take you guy's seriously anymore, it just seems like you don't know what you're doing.
We're not allowed to say hello and goodbye to each other. lololol, we're being freaking stopped from communicating with each other with everyday, simple discussion.Of course you are..just do it on one another's profiles and walls. That's really what they are there for.
"DarthMaul said:That's very very inconvenient. So if I want to say goodnight to a group of people (like the BS), I'd have to go around to all of their walls?We're not allowed to say hello and goodbye to each other. lololol, we're being freaking stopped from communicating with each other with everyday, simple discussion.Of course you are..just do it on one another's profiles and walls. That's really what they are there for."
"DarthMaul said:Wait, so let me get this straight. Someone is lurking the boards and in order to enter the discussion, they have to go to each person's wall to say hello? How the fuck does that work?We're not allowed to say hello and goodbye to each other. lololol, we're being freaking stopped from communicating with each other with everyday, simple discussion.Of course you are..just do it on one another's profiles and walls. That's really what they are there for."
That's very very inconvenient. So if I want to say goodnight to a group of people (like the BS), I'd have to go around to all of their walls?"You're right, I guess it is inconvenient...that's why we primarily suggested IRC as a substitute for chatting on the forums. You can say goodnight to everyone that's in IRC!
"DarthMaul said:Also very inconvenient. Seriously, this is just silly.That's very very inconvenient. So if I want to say goodnight to a group of people (like the BS), I'd have to go around to all of their walls?"You're right, I guess it is inconvenient...that's why we primarily suggested IRC as a substitute for chatting on the forums. You can say goodnight to everyone that's in IRC!"
"DarthMaul said:1. Hello MB!That's very very inconvenient. So if I want to say goodnight to a group of people (like the BS), I'd have to go around to all of their walls?"You're right, I guess it is inconvenient...that's why we primarily suggested IRC as a substitute for chatting on the forums. You can say goodnight to everyone that's in IRC!"
2. Not everyone goes on IRC
3. Like DM said, very inconvenient.
4. ???
5. Profit!
Ok kids i intended to make this topic for some mature discussion and out of courtesy for the community. And while it started off fine for awhile its turned into mod bashing, flaming and borderline trolling. So with that i'm closing it down, if anyone wishes to discuss the matter in a mature fashion then i suggest you send me a PM.
But i will give everyone this warning, DO NOT bring this discussion into other topics and DO NOT flame or pick on other users for their views and opinions over this topic. You have been warned.
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