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@honkalot said:

How rare are the fusion cores for these things? I have like 7 right now. I imagine they're finite - and as with all finite resources in games I end up not ever using them in ironical fear of running out...

I read somewhere that you can recharge them at generators. I never tried it myself but I plan to later on today when I play again.

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I have one Power Armor problem. If your companion is wearing glasses and then gets into power armor, it causes the helmet to disappear. Not unequip, straight up disappear. I went through two power armor helmets before I realized it was my companion's glasses doing it.

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@darson said:

This is just madness. In Paris of all places....

That was my reaction too. Their intelligence network is one of the best and even they fell victim to this. Scary scary world we live in.

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@franstone Yeah, I think I'm going to with an Nvidia card. Not sure which one but I'm leaning more and more towards Nvidia. I watched some videos on how to change a CPU and it doesn't look that bad; honestly, the only thing I'm worried about is accidentally shocking my CPU with static electricity.

@dizzyhippos Cool, I'll check it out.

Another question for anyone that comes across this thread: As someone that doesn't have liquid cooling in his PC, will I have trouble with heat if I move towards the higher end AMD CPUs?

I've used AMD CPUs for the past 5 years and I've never really had an issue with the heat generated from them (they got kind of hot but nothing to crash my system or make them go haywire) but the reviews on the 8350 and up talk about the heat generation and a lot of the people reviewing them have liquid cooling. Will regular old fans be sufficient? I have no plans to move towards liquid cooling. Are the heat issues only if I plan to overclock my system, which I don't plan to do at all? (Not even sure how I would do that honestly)

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@franstone said:
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Great stuff, thanks for all the info everyone =D

Quick question, when I put a new CPU in will I be able to just turn my PC on and go or do I have to do something before it's up and running?

Also, since I currently have an AMD CPU am I limited to AMDs or will I be able to put in and i5 or i7 or something?

If you're just upgrading than you'll have to stick with AMD.

Can't just drop an Intel chip in your current motherboard.

You could very well be fine with just upgrading your video card.

Obviously getting that 8350 that Icemo suggested would help even more.

Cool, good to know. Good thing I asked that before buying anything. That would've been a disaster.

Also, would I be okay with dropping an Nvidia card in there or am I limited to an AMD card? I am very new to upgrading.

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Just FYI when upgrading with AMD make sure you have enough wattage since you didn't put your psu down. I ended up switching to nvidia since i didn't want to buy a card and a new psu.

I think the graphics card should be the first thing to upgrade but if you want to grab a new AMD chip like the 8350 I would probably wait till next year since the new line is coming out that will require a new mobo, which is basically building a new computer IMO.

Ah, I knew I forgot to put something down. I have a 750 watt PSU. I'm leaning towards going intel and Nvidia since I read that Nvidia runs cooler.

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Great stuff, thanks for all the info everyone =D

Quick question, when I put a new CPU in will I be able to just turn my PC on and go or do I have to do something before it's up and running?

Also, since I currently have an AMD CPU am I limited to AMDs or will I be able to put in and i5 or i7 or something?

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TLDR, upgrade, don't build new. Even then, you might not have to upgrade at all, depending on how close to the 1080p-60FPS-ultra settings thing you wanna get.

Long version:

As always, bottlenecks are CPU speed and video card quality. It's worth noting that Bethesda's RPG-ish games like Fallout/Elder Scrolls use a very customizable engine, so being above the "minimum" requirements at all basically means you'll be fine. Not "all settings on high/ultra at 1080p" fine, but probably "maintain a solid 40 fps on medium at 1080p" fine. For reference, their "recommended" CPU for AMD is the 9590 (link), which actually requires a liquid cooling system to function. Very few people will meet that recommendation. I guess the point is, you're not as bad off as you think you are.

On the "build a new PC vs upgrade" front, your current CPU indicates that you're on an AM3+ motherboard, which is still modern. My advice is usually that you should only "build new" if you need to replace the motherboard, which you do not.

So, upgrades. You have plenty of RAM. Your CPU could use a boost, and unless you're looking to drop a lot of money into it, I'd look at the FX-8350. The 8370 isn't really that much better from a price/power perspective, and 4.0GHZ is plenty for everything now and for the forseeable future.

Your video card could also use some more power. Any way you go, you should upgrade to at least a 3GB card (~$150), and if you're gonna be putting that level of cash into it, you should probably just go straight to 4GB. Everyone has their preferred brand, but usually MSI/ASUS are solid manufacturers. Basically find a brand you trust, try to hit 4GB, and keep within budget and you should be fine. You can go into minute details and get super serious with it, but in the end doubling the VRAM is what's making the difference here, everything else is just icing. Something like the ASUS R9 380 is 4GB for ~$220, and the MSI R9 390 is 8GB for ~$330. The range of choice here is dependent on budget.

I know most people tend to do Intel and NVIDIA over AMD/ATI these days (for a reason, AMD is definitely the underdog right now.) I don't have any modern experience with them, however, so if someone can comment on pricing/performance for NVIDIA cards or the real-world benefit of switching the CPU/motherboard to an i5 equivalent, absolutely hop in.

In the end, if I were in your position, I'd probably hold off on upgrading and try playing regardless. Put money into it if you have to, but it may not come to that. We'll see how well it's optimized on Tuesday. If you do feel like you need more power, hit the video card first, then the CPU. Let me know if none of this made sense, sort of late over here. I might be incoherent and unaware.

Awesome, thanks! I was worried that this was just going to get buried with no answer. This actually helps a lot. I'm going to see how my PC handles the game when it comes out and, if it doesn't handle it that well, I'll look into upgrading my card and CPU around Black Friday. I should also look for videos on how to change a card and how to change a CPU.

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I'm not sure where to put this (the PC forums are empty for me) so I thought I would put this here in the Off-Topic section. I've been on the fence on whether I should upgrade my PC or just build a new one, and since I have limited knowledge on these sorts of things I thought I'd come here and ask all of you. I want to play Fallout 4 on my PC because of mods but I apparently barely reach the minimum requirements (at least that's what someone said on the Steam forums), but since I'm upgrading I want to see how far I can go with it. Assuming, of course, I don't have to build a new PC.

Here are my specs. Apologies if I leave anything out:

Windows 7 64bit (Did I need to put this here?)

AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor (8 CPUs), ~3.1GHz

16gb RAM

AMD Radeon HD 7850

Um, I think that's it unless I left something out. Also, when I look at my graphics card in dxdiag it tells me I have 4095 MB of Approximate memory, but my card is a 2GB card; anyone know why it says that? Kind of confused by it. I guess I should also tag @mike since I'm told he's the PC guy to tag. Thanks in advance for any help/info you guys can provide =)

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This looks neat and makes me want to finish Nier, though I don't want to hook up my PS3 again to do it. I'm going to keep my eyes on this game. Was anyone else's attention drawn to how far away her swords floated off her back?

EDIT: Just read about the backstory of the game. Androids and metal aliens invading Earth that caused all the humans to flee to the moon? Okay, I can totally get behind that.