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Giant Bombcast 722: Suck Point Suck

We sneak in one more Bombcast before Game of the Year deliberations pop off. We throw blows in Windjammers 2, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Extraction, updates on the Microsoft and Activision-Blizzard situation, along with your emails!

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Jan. 25 2022

Cast: Jeff, Jason, JERF, Jan, Jess

Posted by: Jan

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the take on windjammers and why original might be more fun for newcomers is why i like power stone 2 so much and a sequel that appealed to the reviewers of today wouldn't work.

Power stone you can explain in a few minutes, cause its all context. Click either one of two buttons for your super, when you get 3 stones. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

Then everything, EVERYTHING works well with one button to attack, one button to use/grab stuff. Obviously, you can jump. Bam done.

Now I can play every character and the only thing separating me from an expert is the expert is out thinking me, jumping across the screen dodging and all, due to grabbing walls, (use button), jumping, attacking, stringing things, etc. there's more but you can do without it.

Making it super complex would throw away the appeal for people like me but attract people who didn't "get it" when it comes to power stone 2. It all seems easy or dumb till someone experienced shows it's not a silly party game but has some depth much like other on the surface simple games (smash, dive kick, etc.) That said making wind J complex just means it takes a bit longer to understand then it's still fun again and less masterable in a year or so. Still feels like if they took dark souls and added faster movement and tons of fighting game stuff or something, sure its more complex and fun, but feels off from what you love.

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Yes..TrueMotion in replays and some Youtube videos are very nice. For gameplay the latency is still severe though.

PS. Black frame insertion is a can of worms aswell.

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Y'all should totally turn Demo Derby into a GamePass romp. Thanks!

Edit: Wave Break>Skatebird; Wave Break was a little loose, but Skatebird was waaaaaay too stiff

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The Pauly Shore name drop 60% in is so strangely serendipitous; he's apparently touring right now and billed to headline the Mall of America House of Comedy on the 29th, with an asterisk, "special presentation"

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Can we set it up so that the premium video plays on default if you are logged in?

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“Do your own research on jizz”

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It really feels like they purposefully made Disc-Man look like a fucking degenerate what the hell. Seeing the screenshot now Jeff could not be more accurate in his description.

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"What happened to Disc Man to make Disc man this way??"

Long live Giant Bomb, long live Jeff

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For the 30fps cutscenes on PC Monster Hunter Rise: they're not pre-rendered, you can use the RiseTweaks mod to remove the arbitrary framerate and image quality cap on them.

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People communicate and cooperate online in a lot of games. Some PVP games basically demand it too. I honestly don't think you're giving the general multiplayer audience enough credit. People are out there playing games that are hard as nails without issue. I don't think having four buttons in Wind Jammers is a big deal either. The multiplayer presentation and lack of compelling local options hurt it a lot more.

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Bring back Salsa Doritos you cowards!!! Not Salsa Verde, or any of the other substitutes. I mean the 2000's purple/black back just Salsa Doritos. Bring that shit back!

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Bobby Kotick wants to make a Guitar Hero game because he was disappointed that “Rock Band: Nickelback” was a fake working title.

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On pie in the sky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIQpuKHHI-E

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Finally! Someone speaks the truth about Trumotion on OLEDs. Thank you Jeff G! I’ve got a fancy £1300 OLED & I genuinely can not stand it without trumotion on. The stutter or judder, whichever it is, is too much for me. It’s all I can see and makes my eyes bleed and feel like my brain is draining from my ears and nose. My mums £300 Samsung can do motion better. I hate it so much.

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Watching animated films with motion smoothing is a nightmare

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I’m with Jason on the Doritos. You are all fucking savages.

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I'll be honest: back around 2010ish, when we still had old TVs at home (we didn't get our first "HD TV" until 2013), whenever I'd go to some place like a Best Buy and see their wall of TVs that (in retrospect) obviously all had motion smoothing on, I thought it looked incredible. I had no idea what was going on/what it meant at the time. I just assumed that was the "HD" part of "HD TV."

Sure were a lot of visual cues in this... probably the worst it's ever been.

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I disagree about Windjammers 2 being worse for newcomers. I've played the original for maybe 15 minutes but after playing 2 for another 15 all the old and new moves felt natural to use, and I had a blast. The tutorial could have been much better, but I really don't think the new moves make the game less accessable in any way, it just gives the players more options. Just using the old moves worked well most of the time. Unfortunately the PS version really does have a pitiful amount of players, but when I found someone to play with the netcode was great. My biggest gripe is that it cost me about as much as a month of Gamespass, but what can ya do.

@mfnick: I have the same issue with my Lgc9 and it's maddening. Most of the streaming apps have audio sync issues too.

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if you want me to explain jizz music to you then you have to venmo me for the emotional labour

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On an LG OLED I turned all the true motion stuff off except de-judder to around 4 or 5, seems to strike the right balance for video content (making it not jerky) without making everything look mental.

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I don't like the high FPS look in movies because it looks unnatural and is jarring. It does make special effects look nice though IMO because they're digital. Of course a high frame rate looks great for UIs and video games, but otherwise I think it just confuses my brain to see video of real life at such a high frame rate.

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@haggywaggy: Yea that is the actual correct way of setting it. The manufacturer presets are a bit much. Doesn’t ever fully get rid of the judder though in my experience. Used YouTube setup videos and lot running at different frame rates and it’s mostly sorted but still noticeable at times.

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Jeff's logic puzzle conspiracy hole is the kind of crazy i need in my life

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Has anyone ever eaten a Dorito without any flavor flavour powder? Have they ever made plain tortilla chips?

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What is the picross style game Jeff talks about?

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Jeff is right - we need more 60fps movies/tv series

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I can't stand when people say GOTY as a word it's so cringey

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Playing with random Dota players is totally a thing millions of people do every day, so i don't see why Rainbow Six shouldn't have that option. It's not for everyone, but adding online matchmaking to a coop game will always open up a game to a bunch of people that don't mind playing that way. It's the kind of decision that doesn't devalue the game to those that don't need it, but can be a make or break it move for those that do want to play it online.