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Giant Bombcast 03/25/2014

We clear away the post-GDC haze to discuss Sony's virtual reality plans, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Arrowhead's new Gauntlet reboot, hot firmware updates, Infamous: Second Son, and another batch of profoundly terrible listener mail.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Mar. 25 2014

Posted by: Jeff

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Yes, Metal Gear is nothing if not a series about holding a mirror to the ugly cruelty of the real world, what with the walking nuclear tanks, cloned super soldiers, cyber ninjas and hilarious comic relief character that suffers from chronic diarrhea. It's a mature series for mature adults who have reached maturity.

Now that you're done acting all haughty about video games, consider that MGS has better writing than 99.99% of games.

http://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/

http://www.metalgearsolid.net/features/mgs2-story-ending-symbolism-analysis

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oh man people at work are wondering why I'm laughing in my cube listening to @Jeff Gerstmann pick on Brad about when he will actually finish Dark Souls 2 @Brad Shoemaker. 2017's Video of Brad playing.... Too Funny...

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@white_lando said:

Yes, Metal Gear is nothing if not a series about holding a mirror to the ugly cruelty of the real world, what with the walking nuclear tanks, cloned super soldiers, cyber ninjas and hilarious comic relief character that suffers from chronic diarrhea. It's a mature series for mature adults who have reached maturity.

Now that you're done acting all haughty about video games, consider that MGS has better writing than 99.99% of games.

http://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/

http://www.metalgearsolid.net/features/mgs2-story-ending-symbolism-analysis

This may be the definition of "scraping the barrel"

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Hey you guys? It's ok for Jeff to think what's in that game is gross. He's allowed to have that opinion. Just like you're allowed to have your opinion that Kojima is capable of handling that stuff in a mature fashion. Just like I'm allowed to have the opinion that he definitely can't.

It's kinda weird how some of you guys are getting on Jeffs case for not really digging gangrape in a video game.

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still messed up on podkicker for me, it's like the Alt+F1 was the past couple of weeks. It sees the feed, but can't download

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I'm really happy to hear the old theme song. Ryan lives.

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Hey small business owners!

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Michael from London sounds like a dweeb.

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I'm getting similar on DogCatcher as well. Tried downloading the recent episode. Looks like it's dropping with the following error.

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal character in path at index 57: http://v.giantbomb.com/podcast/Giant_Bombcast_03_25_2014_[Premium]-03-25-2014-4153733564.mp4

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@potter9156: I'm not sure what effect you thought these two essays were going to have other than showing me the extent to which the series is in love with itself and jam packed with self-referential nonsense is even greater than I thought. It's cool you like Metal Gear, though! Keep on liking it!

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@dark_lord_spam: I don't want to be an ass, but please be mindful if you quote someone who puts up spoilers, you make sure the spoiler tags remain intact in your post.

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That last e-mail better be the last toilet story. I'm just done with that.

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Real Monsters unite.

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What did the dark souls VA write in his mail? i gotta know!

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I can't wait to get back to my favorite small businessmen.

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A laser tag or paintball place that would let you act out Payday 2 scenarios is literally a genius idea.

I know, I feel like that got overshadowed by the rest of the ideas in that email, but seriously, that's phenomenal. I read a story that there is a service in New York City that fake kidnaps you if you're that into thrills. This is a way a more fun and less terrifying and more viable idea than that.

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@humanity: I loved that power. And the worst part is that you see the concrete bad guys DOING THE SAME THING and then when you get the super jump with the concrete power it's dull as shit.

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Also, although Jeff says these emails have gotten terrible, he is actively encouraging the Japan beef among gaijin by choosing to read it on air lol.

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KOF MOBA!?!!? League of Fighters!?!? WTF

@amyggen said:

The video game industry moves so fast this podcast is already outdated!

A day later and this is actually true

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@somejerk said:

As for Quiet this is her background: [spoiler]she gets raped, loses her voice due to the trauma, wows to end the ones who did it and the ones like them, all while wearing the clothes she wore during the act[/spoiler]. Welcome to the real world. This happens.

Hold up.

When you say "this happens" do you mean "deal with it, this is in the game"? Or do you mean "this is an actual thing that happens in real life?" Because...what.

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STAND WIPERS UNITE.

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The Bombcast is going to eventually spark a Australian civil war.

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Ah, hey dudes.. the premium RSS feed for this episode is broken.

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I would totally Kickstart laser-tag set in a bank robbery. Wouldn't even care if Facebook bought it.

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Ditto on the DoggCatcher bug. It turns out that they're including [ and ] directly in the URL string for the latest bombcast, when those characters should be rendered as %5B and %5D in order for the URL to be valid.

I've reported this to DoggCatcher, but it turns out to be a Giant Bomb bug, and I've reported it in the bug reporting forum.

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Where the f@$% does Brad live? I'm in SF and if you don't move your car for street cleaning you get a parking ticket ($65 abouts)

The amount of stuff Brad has stated in these podcasts that he is really convinced of, but isn't actually true is really kind of staggering.

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@zevvion: Apologies. I noticed they were broken when I originally quoted him, but didn't even think to fix it.

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I'm not an expert in political lingo, so apologies if this isn't the correct usage of the word, but Jeff seemed to have a bizarre statist vibe going this week. Like, what the fuck does he care if people distrust the government?

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Actually, I've looked at the RSS feed directly now, and it appears to be a DoggCatcher bug. It looks like they are decoding the %5B and %5D encoding when they parse the XML, but they are not re-encoding those characters before trying to generate a java.net.Uri object, thereby leading to major fail.

I've reported this to DoggCatcher. It wouldn't surprise me if podkicker is suffering from the same bug.

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lol at sublime bone dust just being Sunny D concentrate powder.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sorta I guess)

In Metal Gear Big Boss and Snake interact at the end of MGS IV. In that scene Hayter only voices Snake while another actor voices Big Boss/Naked Snake.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aerosol shitters...

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@murdoc_: Or you know... you both could be right?

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@murdoc_ said:

Where the f@$% does Brad live? I'm in SF and if you don't move your car for street cleaning you get a parking ticket ($65 abouts)

The amount of stuff Brad has stated in these podcasts that he is really convinced of, but isn't actually true is really kind of staggering.

Did you ever stop and wonder if you're putting way too much stock in conversations that are mostly composed of dumb, off-the-cuff jokes?

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Well I guess Brad is technically correct that Titanfall outsold inFamous: Second Son the week before the latter outsold the former, since it wasn't out yet.

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This global email battle keeps getting better and better.

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@mooseymcman: I just read through the comments to see if anyone else was surprised. Really seems random for someone who loves dumbass movies like Fast and Furious to call Quiet "Fucking Sick."

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Goodbye Ruby Tuesday!

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@soapy86: Probably from oversaturation of the Government Conspiracy trope, combined with random thoughts of the extremes that spawn from believing it.

Small Business Owner: "I don't trust the government, they're too big and shifty."

Jeff: "Alright..."

Small Business Owner: "Which is why I refuse to vaccinate my kid against a deadly, infectious disease."

Jeff: "...What."

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I don't get what @jeff was talking about with regards to Paz and it being disgusting. It was supposed to be disgusting. It made me feel dirty and sad and upset and that's how you are supposed to feel. It's a reality of war and something that has real life precedence as far as the torture and potential raping stuff goes.

I don't understand how people want gaming as a genre to mature, but can't handle it when more serious stories are told. It's not like Kojima handled the stuff comically or without a serious tone and he defintely didn't throw that information in your face...I mean the stuff is implied in the main game, but the more in depth stuff is only found through audio logs. I don't really understand how he could have been more subtle.

If you felt upset, and grossed out and disgusting by the end of it, then Kojima was successful, because there is really nothing else he would have wanted people to feel.

Just because something that was intended to be disgusting disgusts you doesn't mean it is good storytelling. I could easily disgust everyone in this comment section right now with some horrible images or whatever, but that wouldn't make what I did good or interesting.

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@tyler1285: Fast & Furious is now a critically acclaimed, multi-billion dollar franchise that excels at being dumb fun.(Not to mention promoting racial and gender equality)

Meanwhile, Super Artiste Kojima has vagina bombs and diarrhea gags.(High art?)

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I haven't played Ground Zeroes, so I don't know about the disgusting-ness of it, but I have played GTAV. The torture scene in that game made me feel uncomfortable to be honest. I didn't want to do that stuff. But at the same time, I also don't feel it's justified to say something like that isn't allowed, or the people who did appreciate it are disgusting.

That scene was meant to portray the character of Trevor and what nasty stuff he can do. Though somewhat successful, I didn't really appreciate how it was handled myself. But I wouldn't think less of someone who thought it was handled well.

Again, I have no idea if this Ground Zeroes situation is somewhat similar, but perhaps people aren't disgusting scum per se for thinking the scenes referred to do a good job of setting up the character? The stuff I read about it sounds like it's an argument of: 'That stuff is horrible in the real world, therefor you are disgusting for putting it in a game'. I realize it's a bit too easy to comment on this having not played it myself. But that's what it sounds like to me so far. I actually do intent to play Ground Zeroes, so I'll see if I feel the same way then.

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@tyler1285: That's not what he said was sick (unless I've forgotten a lot of the conversation). Quiet isn't in Ground Zeroes, she's going to be in The Phantom Pain. I think Jeff was referring to the torture related things in Ground Zeroes, which, to be fair, are very unpleasant.

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Brad buddy, feel free to put off finishing Dark Souls 2 on your own. I could use another GB Souls play through, going through some Brad/Vinny shenanigan withdrawals.

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Does anyone have time stamps for the Ground Zeroes discussion? I really don't want to hear it.

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I do not understand Jeff calling Ground Zeroes disgusting in such a serious manner. It was a bit graphic but nothing as bad as Mortal Kombat or Gears of War. What happens to the character in question is nothing new, nor was it even a gorefest.

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@brad I'm pretty sure they use the Source Filmmaker for those Dota 2 close-ups in the documentary. You can pull in complete Dota and TF2 matches and toy around however you like, pretty neat stuff. It's that free software Valve use for all their cutscenes and movie clips.

That is, if I didn't completely misunderstand what you meant. I haven't finished Free-to-play yet.

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These are the best emails.

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@milkman: Kojima and his followers must think "I Spit On Your Grave" is some masterpiece docudrama.