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    A digital distribution service owned by Valve Corporation. Originally created to distribute Valve's own games, Steam has since become the de facto standard for digital distribution of PC games.

    Do you refuse to buy games that require Steam?

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    #101  Edited By reddin

    I'm more likely to refuse to buy games that are not on Steam. I haven't bought a boxed PC game in well over two years.

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    #102  Edited By DarkGamerOO7
    @JJWeatherman said:
    " @DarkGamerOO7 said:
    " Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, so if anybody knows please let me know it would be much appreciated, but the only thing I do not like about Steam is how as of now if I go out and buy a game from retail how I have to download the game from Steam and cannot just install the game to Steam from the disk which would save me hours of my time. Other than that I love it. "
    Oh, you mean for Steam-compatible games bought at retail? I was under the impression that there weren't too many retail games that were compatible. "
    Quite a few are actually, I bought The Orange Box about a month ago and I had to download Half-Life 2/Episode 1/Episode 2/Team Fortress 2 which was quite a lot of data to download and took me nearly an entire day as I only have a 2MB connection, it works fine for playing games online...downloading them....not so much.
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    #103  Edited By Lind_L_Taylor
    @Gargantuan said:
    " I've seen a lot of Steam hate on some other forums and I'm wondering how many Giant Bombers despise Steam. "
    A fuckin' loves me some Steam.
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    JammyJesus

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    #104  Edited By JammyJesus

    No because I am not mentally ill, well, not that way at least. 

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    #105  Edited By defaulttag

    I love Steam for it's convenience. It automatically organizes all my games into one interface. I can download and reinstall these games on multiple computers. Steam works offline as well, allowing you to play a single player without an internet connection. Friends lists are easy to navigate. I cannot understand why Steam gets all this hate from some PC gamers who absolutely HATE drm. I feel steam has been the best thing that happened to the PC gaming industry. 

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    #106  Edited By E_rock

    I did in like 2002... 
     
    I remember buying the retail Counter Strike: Condition Zero disc and being appalled that I had to download and install this seemingly pointless (at the time) extra program.  After that I refused to buy any games that forced me to have steam, including Half Life 2.  Oh how foolish of a child I was...  
     
    Little did I know, 9 years later I would be completely in love with Steam.  I have not bought a retail disc PC game in 4 years, all of them are purchased through Steam now.  Except that's probably gonna change soon, I've been eyin that Starcraft 2 for some time...

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    #107  Edited By Slaker117

    I can understand people not liking Steam back in the day, but reason is there to hate it now? I'm actually interested, if someone has a legitimate complaint, didn't like to hear it, but otherwise Steam is great.

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    BombKareshi

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    #108  Edited By BombKareshi

    Hell, no.
     
    I've felt like refusing to buy games that require Windows Live, but I still do that. :(

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    #109  Edited By JoelTGM

    I prefer that all my PC games are on Steam, and they all are except for a couple racing sims.  What I HATE is games for windows live.  It took me forever to get Dirt 2 running last week because of it, and if I didn't sign in it wouldn't save my progress...

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    #110  Edited By damswedon

    The only PC games that I haven't bought through Steam when I've had the choice to were the Guild Wars games, that's only because they come with lore books that look cool.

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    #111  Edited By wefwefasdf

    Quite the opposite. 

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    #112  Edited By Demyx

    That sounds utterly stupid. I use steam even when its not required. Not as much now though since I don't have an account anymore. But it was very convenient while it lasted.

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    #113  Edited By dungbootle

    Nope, I love Steam. Not a huge PC gamer, but I wouldn't want to buy anything that isn't on there.

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    #114  Edited By ninjakiller

    No, I haven't had any problems with Steam.  

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    #115  Edited By JoeyRavn
    @BombKareshi said:
    " Hell, no.  I've felt like refusing to buy games that require Windows Live, but I still do that. :( "
    I love Games for Windows Live. Sure, it can be vastly improved as a DRM method, but being able to earn Achievements in my Live account while playing the (almost all of the time) superior PC version of the game is great.
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    #116  Edited By pekoe212

    I love Steam. It's so much better than keeping track of a million e-mails with activation codes, download and install limits, or simply forgetting if you purchased a game and if so where from. I know exactly what I have, and can download and install games to any computer. It's so rare to be in a situation where my computer would not have an internet connection that it's not really an issue.

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    #117  Edited By FreakAche

    Who hates Steam? Steam helped to reignite my interest in PC gaming.

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    #118  Edited By tim_the_corsair

    I hated it initially, but that was only because the SteamId replaced the WONID and suddenly years of dumbarses banned from the CS servers I used to admin were free to come back and try again.

    Since then, however, it has evolved into a hell of a service. It was a sad day when publishers realised us Aussies could buy new games half price on Steam though, and began gouging us accordingly.

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    #119  Edited By BombKareshi
    @JoeyRavn: No problem with playing games on the PC, it's just that firstly I'd prefer to keep all of my games in one place (most are on Steam right now), and secondly Windows Live has given me lots of trouble on Windows 7.
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    #120  Edited By Sil3n7
    @AnAmericanPatriot said:
    " YUP, HATE that shit. ALSO THIS is 2004, RIGHT? "
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    #121  Edited By rmanthorp  Moderator

    I refuse to buy games that don't require Steam!

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    #122  Edited By melcene

    Yes.  I don't see why, if I pick up a copy of a game in the store that I have no intention of playing online, why I would need to activate it through some online service.  But I'm stubborn and don't like change.  Luckily, I haven't had a game yet that required Steam.

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    #123  Edited By Kyreo
    @AlexW00d said:
    " @MattyFTM said:
    " No, I love steam. If a retail game activates on steam, that would probably encourage me to buy it. "
    "
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    #124  Edited By Skald

    It's usually my first choice.

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    #125  Edited By achoyq

    Do you refuse to buy games that require Steam?

    Complete opposite for me.   
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    Often I have decided against buying games that don't activate on Steam. I think steam simply makes life better for gamers, I can't stand having to put a CD in the drive just to launch a game or having to hunt round forums for the latest update becuase the download manager that installed with the game is just a glorified shop front. (@that publisher: You know who you are!)

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    #127  Edited By Radar

    The only games I buy require steam... so...

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    #128  Edited By Afroman269

    why hate steam?

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    #129  Edited By sjupp

    On some occasions I end up buying a game on steam that I already own because it's way more practical. So I guess my answer is no.

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    #130  Edited By cornbredx

    Steam has done a lot to improve itself over the years. I have no problems with steam, after activation you can even use it offline.

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    #131  Edited By Matfei90

    No. I love Steam. Most of last years purchases for me were through Steam.

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    #132  Edited By FancySoapsMan

    Nope.

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    #133  Edited By Brendan

    I'm now more interested in making a large Steam list than I am having a large row of physical boxes.

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    #134  Edited By Aus_azn

    I love Steam. As I've seen already, DRM done right.

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    #135  Edited By Mars_Cleric

    I don't care where it comes from as long as it works 
    unlike that copy of batman i got off steam
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    #136  Edited By Shaunpayne

    I will only buy them if their on steam,steam is the way to go!

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    #137  Edited By warxsnake

    No, and more games should. It's time games on PC stick to a standard, and I'm glad it's just not GFWL.

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    #138  Edited By ArbitraryWater
    Are there people who don't like steam? Other than Stardock (who probably hate Steam because Impulse is total garbage and they know it) and people who inhabit the GOG forums (because they're crazy), I can't think of anyone. So my answer is obviously no. Like everyone else in this thread.
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    #139  Edited By Amtiskaw

    Yes. I won't buy any game that requires online activation. Also, the Steam client is a piece of shit.

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    #140  Edited By NickL

    i almost never buy games that don't come on steam in some way.... so i guess im the opposite

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    #141  Edited By mithhunter55

    Id refuse to buy a game in a box that doesn't activate on steam. Though I haven't got a boxed copy of a game since left for dead.(oops.. starcraft 2.. doesn't count)
    Activating on steam should not mean you cant play it with out steam open. Just so you don't have to install from The disk.

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    #142  Edited By LiquidPrince

    Not really, but I don't play much PC games.

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    #143  Edited By NTM

    I love Steam, but for me personally, I don't use it to buy new games first. Say I wanted Crysis 2, and I were to get it on 360 (or PS3, though less likely) first, but after a while, I felt I wanted to buy it again to see how it is on PC, I would then buy Crysis 2 off steam. If I were to buy Crysis 2 on PC first, I would go to the store and buy it there. Steam for me is much more for games I've either already played in the past on the consoles, or for games I simply have no desire to find anywhere else, like Painkiller or something like it. There's also times when games have been released for a good amount of time, and I still haven't purchased it yet, I'd most likely buy it on steam depending on what game it is, a good example would be Left 4 Dead 2, because I don't think that game is special enough to go out and get it anywhere else. Plus, I love having game cases, so buying newer games off Steam is not going to happen.
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    #144  Edited By Aaron_G

    No, I have come to enjoy Steam. I was disappointed when I bought a PC game over the weekend and it didn't activate on Steam, but that was my bad.
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    #145  Edited By Soap

    Hell no, Infact the only PC games I get ever come through steam. 

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    #146  Edited By rybrad
    @Soap said:
    " Hell no, Infact the only PC games I get ever come through steam.  "
    Pretty much this. The exception being if a new game is 25%+ cheaper elsewhere.
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    #147  Edited By melcene

    i must admit, all the praise that Steam gets here at GiantBomb is slowly swaying me.

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    It's so weird seeing these opinions 9 years later. Steam is literally THE place to get games.

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    It's the curse of being the first.
    I'm on Steam for 10 years. In those 10 years it has grown into a quite a library of games and I like my stuff on a single digital service.

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    Necroposting aside, angry gamers are like console launches. After the first few biggies you more or less see how things are going

    At the time? Steam (and gamespy/fileplanet's failure that basically just had a few NWN modules) was coming largely around the time people started caring about DRM. We are losing our minds over the idea that a game might need to phone home or, GASP, download some content while running and that we might not be able to reinstall a game a hundred times per day. And here are those half-life pricks insisting we give them money to let us download a game and let them refuse to download the games we paid for when they fall under. And if I lose the password to my email account I lose everything? Fuck that noise

    Again, its kind of why the EGS and even Stadia stuff would be laughable if it weren't so hate filled. Same with console gamers and their pushback to digital distribution. They are the exact same arguments people trotted out a decade ago (and many times before that) and we already saw how things turned out.

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