I just hate it when games get canned, no matter how bad they were are it takes a part of my heart.

Another loss to economic troubles

That sucks I was looking forward to playing this game once it got to consoles since my PC is too old to run anything these days.

Damn I was looking forward to this, I guess I'll have to go get the PC version.

Damn it, I guess I just have to go and get the PC version and install it on my laptop.

"Damn it, I guess I just have to go and get the PC version and install it on my laptop."

Hmm...i've yet to even play The Witcher on the PC...i guess i should suck it up and get it regardless if it does things i don't like.

That's a shame, The Witcher was an amazing game and CDProjekt Red seems to be one of the developers left who gives a shit about their games.

maybe its because they would have to cut the game alot given the nudity in the PC version at least in the European version.

There's not that much nudity at all, easily cutable. My guess is they just weren't getting it right, it was going to have a new combat system and stuff, hard to go from a pc centric clickie clickie title to a compelling action based combat system. Oh well, maybe for the sequel. I'll get that on PC just like the original.

I understand times are tough right now, but I don't understand this move.  They must have spent enough money by this point to be almost past the point of no return.  If they cancel the game, all that dev money is flushed away.  If they spend a little more to get the product out the door, they will recoup their losses.  Wouldn't it make more sense to get a loan or something, tough it out, and release the product that will hopefully turn a profit?

I saw the PC version of this at Goodwill for 8 bucks.... Shoulda bought it.

Shame. Hopefully the sequel will see a console version. Although to be completely honest, I rather see them make absolutely certain the PC version is as flawless as possible.

 Oh well, maybe for the sequel. I'll get that on PC just like the original."

"CitizenKane said:

"Damn it, I guess I just have to go and get the PC version and install it on my laptop."

That is if it can run on laptops"

nnnnoooooooooooooooooooo0o0oooo...=(

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ughhh.... guess the PC's my only option now....

I loved the PC game as well and the console version would have been awesome too.
It's great that they are still working on the sequel though.

To Dave:
Just wanted to point out it looks like you spelt sequel wrong, I don't think anyone else mentioned it.

Guess I should pick up the enhanced edition for the PC then before it's too late. Tried some of the original, but it just kept crashing and crashing and crashing so couldn't get past the first 15min of the game. They should have called the new edition "not as broken edition" instead because the first release was pretty much broken.

The Witcher sold huge enough - over a million copies before the re-release iirc.  I doubt many other PC exclusives from the past couple of years can match that.

Do you think they'll still consider releasing Witcher 2 on consoles, given that 1 is now destined to remain PC exclusive?  I guess the ending of the first game was clean enough to make it possible at least.

A great game it was. Disappointment that it isn't coming to consoles as I mentioned yesterday. Though I the news about the sequel is new to me, which is still good!

Jimbo, I think it's absolutely likely it will go to consoles, if it even gets a PC release. Keep in mind the first Fallouts didn't see a console release, nor did the first Bad Company see a PC one.

: ( 

If it even gets a PC release? Uh, where does that come from, exactly? All their money come from PC so far, why would they suddently ditch it? They've been in the space for many years, they're the guys behind most of the european translations of RPG staples like Baldur's Gate, they're the guys behind Good Old Games. What evidence do you have that they would make the sequel to a PC game console only?

"Gmanall said:

"CitizenKane said:

"Damn it, I guess I just have to go and get the PC version and install it on my laptop."

That is if it can run on laptops"

I have an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz, 4 GB RAM and a 256 MB ATI RADEON HD 3650.  I'm pretty sure I can run it."

Lol. Nice non-sequitur. I meant if it gets release at all, smarty pants.

Well it sounded wrong >_>

This is a serious bummer.

Mmm true, but I imagine The Witcher 2 will rely far more heavily on direct story continuation from it's prequel than either Fallout 3 or BC2.  You're probably right though - PC exclusives don't make much sense anymore.

I just can't see it selling that well to console gamers anyway, but especially if they have no way of playing the original.  I hope I'm wrong though because CDProjekt deserve to be successful.  It would be pretty epic if they take the work on 'Rise' and roll it into The Witcher 2 - Dark Athena styley.  Unlikely, but awesome nonetheless.

Yeah you're wrong. Pc exclusives make at least as much sense as console exclusives, for various different reasons, hence why companies like Stardock flourish. You'll be able to play the sequel just fine on console even without access to the "original" since even that was far from being the Witcher's first tale. References to past deeds and situations only make the world feel more complete and real, even if you weren't there to experience them the first time, or don't know exactly what is being discussed. Many games, RPGs or not, use it to good effect. For example most people first played Metal Gear Solid but it references past Metal Gear games heavily.  The story will most likely be quite stand alone anyway, as is the first game, despite The Witcher's long past via the book series.

I hope it's a delay and not completely canned, really looking forward to this game since my Macbook isn't capable of running this at decent FPS.

That seems like it would be really weird if the sequel came to consoles when the original didn't

"Pc exclusives make as much sense as console exclusives, for various different reasons."

And none of them financial.  How many noteworthy (non-MMO) PC exclusives do we currently have in the pipeline? 

I agree you'll be able to play it without playing The Witcher, but I think it will still be enough to put a lot of console gamers off.

is its because of the bewbs and sex would make news or a bigger controversy than GTA would today? I thought the sences in the witcher is pretty tastefully done. Plus the artwork is amazing. I am bummed that its not making a console release.

"And none of them financial.  How many noteworthy (non-MMO) PC exclusives do we currently have in the pipeline?"

"I agree you'll be able to play it without playing The Witcher, but I think it will still be enough to put a lot of console gamers off."

O well.....whats next?

oh no, i was really looking forward to this! sadness

"Gmanall said:

"CitizenKane said:

"Damn it, I guess I just have to go and get the PC version and install it on my laptop."

That is if it can run on laptops"

I have an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz, 4 GB RAM and a 256 MB ATI RADEON HD 3650.  I'm pretty sure I can run it."

This makes me sad.  I heard great things about the PC version and wanted to get the 360 when it came out.

I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, just trying to figure out CDProjekt's likely game plan here.  The reason I said non-MMO is because it implies a totally different business model, one which isn't relevant to what CDProjekt should/will do.  The same applies to games that are essentially prohibited from console by their control scheme and tiny budget / indie games etc.  Sorry, I should have made it clearer that I meant 'PC exclusives in some way comparable to the game we are all discussing.'

Most devs/publishers working on 'big' projects (say potential million+ sellers) have decided that if they can get it on to console then they should.  The traditional big PC developers are running to multi-platform models as fast as they can, prioritising the console version in a lot of cases - even Crytek aren't going to watch their next project limp to a million sales on PC.

In short, I expect The Witcher Sequel to be multi-platform and I expect it's console sales to be significantly undercut by this cancellation.  What do you think?

I expect the sequel is multi platform since they showed interest in console support, but isn't likely to be a multi million seller on any system, or perhaps all together, if it still retains the original's qualities. It's not a mass market title even with the changes they would do for the port.

For your other PC stuff, I'll just direct you to the links of my last post. It's a separate argument really,but I think those are enough to show you're wrong when you're talking about "most developers" and as for multi millions of sales and "big projects" the latter is subjective and the former not necessary for success. It's good they don't all move to such projects or we'd only be having Gears of War and GTA clones or something. The PC gaming industry is thriving in many ways. Fact. Narrowing it down to a particular type of production to say those particular projects are moving to consoles (though it tends to be ALSO on consoles, so not leaving the PC) doesn't change that.

That sucks. I was looking forward to this. Maybe I should buy it on PC anyway.

They stated that the project was put on hold because Widescreen Games could not meet the schedule deadlines set in place by CD Projekt Red, and because the deadlines were not met CD Projekt Red would not make payments to them until they hit the schedule marks.  So basically Widescreen got to the point where they couldnt continue the project because of late payments. 

I just can't see it selling that well to console gamers anyway, but especially if they have no way of playing the original.  I hope I'm wrong though because CDProjekt deserve to be successful.  It would be pretty epic if they take the work on 'Rise' and roll it into The Witcher 2 - Dark Athena styley.  Unlikely, but awesome nonetheless."

Great source for The Witcher's profits... Why wouldn't they proceed with this port to make the money then? Surely going on without money even longer, until the completion of the sequel, is the worse choice :S

As for the WRPG market, I'd say that's not true, and only appears true because they make consolised WRPGs and little else, pissing off many PC users as it really sucks when a game you play on PC feels like a port with unfitting design choices, especially to the interface.

How much profit has NWN 2's success generated so far for Bio? The game was out in 2006 and isn't showing signs of slowing down, they keep making expansions, and just announced moving to digitally distributed expansions instead of finally halting support. I'd say that's a profound success story, enough to prove those statements wrong.

I have the pc version and its great.  Still one of those games i bought last year and havent completed yet  0_o

A console version would have been great for everyone not interested in pc gaming.

they should get a bailout

"Great source for The Witcher's profits... Why wouldn't they proceed with this port to make the money then? Surely going on without money even longer, until the completion of the sequel, is the worse choice :SAs for the WRPG market, I'd say that's not true, and only appears true because they make consolised WRPGs and little else, pissing off many PC users as it really sucks when a game you play on PC feels like a port with unfitting design choices, especially to the interface.How much profit has NWN 2's success generated so far for Bio? The game was out in 2006 and isn't showing signs of slowing down, they keep making expansions, and just announced moving to digitally distributed expansions instead of finally halting support. I'd say that's a profound success story, enough to prove those statements wrong."

Bioware didn't develop or publish NWN2, so I don't know how much profit it will have generated for them.

You can see the trend in the long term development of that game though; they've gone from an Obsidian expansion which matched or exceeded the production quality of the OC, to an Obsidian expansion which cut way back on that stuff in favour of cheaper production, and now finally they are putting out an expansion they picked up from some modders or found lying about in the street or something.  Meanwhile, Obsidian and Bioware are off working on multiplatform titles, where the big money is in '09.  (Of course, Bioware are also going for the really big money in the form of The Old Republic.)

I wouldn't expect NWN3 to be PC exclusive, assuming there is one.