Grinding to a slow halt. 74. I've ventured into some places I don't have the rule sets for and, on top of that, the game's making me motion sick. There's one I have the theory for but not the right perspective.

I'm 3.5 hours into the game, and am sitting at 98 +14.

Knowing that there are almost 700 puzzles to the game, and that the game is 20-40 hours for the main through-line, and 80+ to complete all of the puzzles, it has me a bit worried if all of the puzzles are this easy. That being said, the game is phenomenally put together, with a cohesion between puzzles and environment that I have never seen before in a game. I have experienced nothing but genuine enjoyment from this game, but I do hope that the puzzles get a bit harder as time goes on.

yeah, i picked it up today after successfully getting to 78 or something last night, and i have to say ive played about 2 more hours and have been stuck on 2 or 3 puzzles since then. im getting a bit worried the puzzles are too hard for me to figure out, and i dont wanna cheat so i feel stuck. also, every time i give up on one and move to another location, they are just as hard. i hope im intelligent enough to beat this damn thing.

Okay, so now I'm up to 292 +6. I now understand what the "+" means.

If you are playing the PC version you can easily edit the game's config file and adjust your FOV. That should help with motion sickness. If you're on console then I'm afraid you're SOL.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/210970/discussions/3/458606877334931773/

With 18 hours on my steam play time (which is more like 16 since I've idled a couple times), I'm currently at 393 + 57. I've got all the lasers but there are definitely still some loose ends on my plate that I want to wrap up before heading into the finale. I think i'll probably go for the 100%, I'm really digging this game.

As someone who has an education in graphics programming, I especially liked the RGB color puzzles on the top floor of one of the buildings in the center of town (the one that you have to clear the sound-proof room in the basement to unlock).

118 +0 after 3 hours. I keep making progress and then coming to something I have no idea how to solve, which happened like 3 times in a row. Also, these tetris blocks can fuck off. I hate them, and you can't even go back to look at the tutorial because you have to wait on a platform.

6 hours in I'm at 218 +9. I've not been dwelling on puzzles I'm stuck on for too long and just moving around the place for what its worth. Also I think I've figured out what the + number is so that's something I guess. Really cool game so far

15 hours in, just finished all the primary zones. Sitting at 379 +46. Still lots of goodies left to hunt for, but I think I'll head to the final zone now.

I got really frustrated earlier. I thought I understood the white and black square ones perfectly fine. You put the line in between the white and blacks, right? Apparently not because I found a door where I had to draw a long line between a bunch of blacks and it still worked? Also there's a door near the beginning with dots and white/black squares that just won't open. I'm putting the line between the squares and covering the dots but it won't open. I'm missing something about this type!

Yes. There is a mindset I have when solving the white and black blocks and its different from what you described doing. I got through the door in the beginning with the dots and squares with my method.

@golguin: I'll just have to keep trying different methods and I guess take a look at those first few tutorial panels to see why they truly worked.

the rules for white and black squares don't CHANGE do they? Don't tell me the solution though

I'm sitting at 187 +14.

I'm 8 hours in but I'm also enjoying dilly-dallying and looking at the scenery.

I'm treating it as a "stop and smell the roses" type of game.

So I'm at 190 puzzles solved. This is game is like puzzle cocaine. So far the only areas I've completed are Bunker, Monastery, and Symmetry and MAN when I completed the last puzzle in Monastery I thought I was a fucking genius. It really is like you're trying to get into the designers head. When you complete a section and you get one of those panels that are just straight line its such a relief.

I'm at 68, after about 90 minutes. I don't get the sense that it's unusual, I was averaging 1 a minute or so just wandering around. None of those puzzles seemed complicated. Then I got to the last in a series of outlning puzzles- there's a tree, a boulder, some bushes and sea. I've tried a few things but I can't actually figure out what I'm looking at. Tried some negative space stuff, tried it from behind, tried it with my glasses off. But nope. I'll probably wander around more and come back to it later.

I started an hour ago and have finished 49. Have to put it down for the evening though because I'm exhausted. I'm intrigued but this game may end up being a slow burn for me because my brain is usually pretty tired after I get home from work. Tonight wasn't exactly an exception but I had to at least try it after hearing the bombcast today.

I'm enjoying it overall but it kind of drives me nuts when I figure out something that I consider challenging and my reward is either (a) more puzzles or (b) something that looks like it should be a hint at how to solve more puzzles except that I have no idea how to actually apply it.

Also, the movement is kind of making me motion sick :(

@frostyryan: Jeff and Brad explain that concept pretty well in the quick look. Saying "You have to put a line in between black/white" isnt 100 percent correct. This isnt really a great game for trying to give hints so if you need a clearer hint I can give one.

In the mean time I can say that after Day #2 that I'm at 345 +12 with Symmetry, Bunker, Shady trees, Quarry, Treehouses, Marsh and Desert ruin completed.

I'm only at 62. After the tutorial (what was shown in the quick look), I roamed around for about half an hour and got kinda intimidated by it all, but then I went back to around where the opening section is and just started following a path and now I feel like I'm in a row, solving puzzles and opening doors is incredibly satisfying.

Came here to say this game is amazing. If I had unlimited money I would give a good chunk of it to Jon blow and his team so they can make an actual island in the style of the witness. I really hope they do psvr support at some point.

Okay finally got into the mountain. After not having too much trouble with this game in general, it really got fuck off hard real fast.

141 +8. discovered all my +s on this (my second) session.

I'm only this deep and feel like i already understand exactly why this game was $40.

275 +6. Done all of it today and only just realized what the +'s are so I will look for more tomorrow. I've done enough to go to the final area but have at least 2 areas I want to go back and finish up first.

124. I spent a good while hovering around 100 and not really finding any areas to really sink into that I could understand. I found one tutorial area but I was just not understanding the panels and I left. I just found the start of another area before deciding to stop for the night.

3 Zones down (out of 7?): 266 solved +20. 19 hours :o

I'm at 100+10. I feel like I've been going to some tough areas because I haven't done a single puzzle in the town square area. I just wander until I find a cool looking area and then decide to do the puzzles there. The result is that I've gone pretty far and I need to utilize the boat fast travel to get back to the starting area.

I'm going to stay closer to the starting area and fan out since the puzzles closer to the starting area felt easier. I've already encountered a set of puzzles in the tree house area that I would solve and think I understand the rules only to see I don't understand anything.

Will start again tomorrow. I also know what the + means. I knew from the moment I unlocked my first one. I was so startled at the initial discovery that I scared my girlfriend that's been solving with me.

251 11hrs. no + sign on mine, no indication of what that might be~

20 hours, 432 +57, first run done. Did all zones. Felt like I went through the game pretty quickly until I hit the last zone then it slowed to a crawl. Anyways now for the secretssssss!

This game was actually beyond godlike, I adored every minute of it.

Pretty much the same numbers for me. 18-19ish hours (I idled a bunch so not sure), 427 +45. Cleared all 11 zones/beams before heading into the Mountain. Have four puzzles left at what I assume to be the very end, after the timed door with the 360 degree puzzles on the cave pillars. Had to stop because I'm driving to San Antonio for PAX South tomorrow so I need to get some sleep. Definitely plan on trying to find the rest of the hex patterns for the video player as well as filling out all of monoliths once I get back.

I know it's only January, but I think my GOTY is probably already settled.

Finished (?) 398 +32, about 14 hours by Steam. I went to the ending once I had enough beams, but I poked around and solved puzzles from other areas too.

No idea what Brad was going on about during the bombcast (I might have misunderstood what he was implying)...I was thinking there'd be some super mega-puzzle at the end but there wasn't anything too annoying IMO. *Also* very much disagree that it's impossible to keep all the rules in your head...the various systems are all pretty manageable and the game does a great job at teaching / reinforcing them. I wonder if he over-complicated some of them?

This game is a masterpiece. Can't wait to find some secrets (and watch the last couple videos I collected).

Once you get the first one, you'll definitely be trying to get more :) I have a feeling this is the "oh so cool" moment Jeff alluded to; it definitely was that for me.

Whoop. New ruleset figured. I'll go back to some of the earlier puzzles once I'm out of the hedge mazes.

Down to the last two in that area but I do not understand the rules.

I have no idea what my playtime is as I'm on PS4, but I'm at 255 +6. Just figured out the pluses earlier, blew my mind. I feel like I've played this game a long time, though. This thread makes me feel kinda dumb.

It's 2 in the morning. I should really sleep. Wish I had more time to spend on this. It's just the best.

@quantris: So the game doesn't end after you "finish" it? I had unlocked the mountain a while ago, but I've been afraid of going inside because I don't want to hit a point of no return where I can't go back and finish the puzzles I have left.

I'm at 191+19 now and have finally solved one of the puzzles I've been stuck on forever, just to of course now be stuck on the very next one. That tree house place is just brutal.

352 +18. This freaking game is glorious.

I'm at 186 panels solved and three lasers activated. I'm not sure how many hours I've played, is there a way to check on PS4?

5 Zones : 327 solved +22. 26 hours. I suppose I'm pretty slow; also, stubborn.

Can anyone confirm for me that there's no point of no return or anything at the end? I'm at the point where I can activate the camera at the top of the mountain, but I want to be able to easily go back and do other stuff around the island.

I don't know how to see my number on PC as it just launches immediately? But my guess is around 50 or so. I feel like I hit a point that Brad mentioned on the Bombcast where there is now multiple areas that I can't even solve the first puzzle.

I've read that the game just dumps you back to the menu/new game when you finish it, but that you can just reload a previous save. Not the most elegant solution, but it's there. Haven't been able to try it myself because I'm on my way out the door, so take it with a grain of salt until you can get a confirmed answer from someone who's done it.

Just hit Load Game.

120+15. I wandered for what felt like 45 minutes before I found a string of puzzles. Before that I'd face a hard puzzle and solve it only to open up a combo puzzle with shapes I did not understand. That happened 3 times.

It feels like progress is dependent on finding a string of puzzles and knocking them out. I kept running into one shots somehow and not finding those puzzle strings. I did manage to find quite a few + that I decided to leave for later because I didn't want to spend too much time on them even though I understood the mechanism by which to solve them.

@ajamafalous: Thanks. I guess I'll just try to do everything I can before I start the end until someone tells me otherwise.

8 hours in and 219 solved.

304 +41

The puzzles have all been satisfying so far.

About 12 hours or so in now and at 330+29 (8 lasers active), but now I'm at the sound ones and am hopelessly stuck. I'm terrible at distinguishing tonal differences. I hate those fucking birds.

It's the only place where I have any idea what the hell is going on though right now, so this sucks.

I think I'm at 146, I still only have one area solved. I keep going into an area and doing some of the puzzles, banging my head against it for a while then moving on. I'm really struggling with the game but I refuse to use a guide, but no matter how hard I try I can't figure out what the puzzles with the fan looking symbol and black dots mean. I want to cry.

I'm loving the game though.

@rickrockmann@alphasquid: about the end of the game and point of no return:

I'm at around 140 +4 after 6ish hours. I'd been having a hellish time with the tetromino stuff up until this morning. I understand what the puzzles are asking but I find it half way to impossible to properly visualize the solutions. I saw the picture with the cutouts on Brads twitter though and making some of my own has really, really helped. Generally speaking having a notebook open seems to be an absolute necessity. If the difficulty continues to ramp as it has been I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it to the end, but if Jon Blow wants to defeat me I'll be going down swinging.

The +'s are super fun. I actually got my first one almost as soon as I'd left the initial area but have been having trouble finding more.

94. I solved one this morning by accident so I retraced it after work to figure out what was going on. Theory was right, execution was off. Then I solved the next on the first shot. Now in colour country. I've got two major ones to revisit I'm at the point where focusing on one area for hours just won't sit so I'm exploring more to get the puzzle count up.

153+20 now.

One of the rules I figured out in an area just seems so crazy. My interpretation of the rule seems like nonsense and yet it allowed me to get through the area. I'm not even sure what to call the area, but there are rocks, a river, train tracks, and mounds of salt/dirt. Maybe it's a quarry.

The rule I came up with in that area is this: Isolate the green and one red to kill the ship. The colors and dots mix the rule up a bit, but it's still about isolation and using a thing to kill the ship. It sounds crazy, but it worked. Can anyone confirm or deny my thinking in that rule? Maybe a yes that's how it works or no that isn't how it works.