Battlefield 1943 for PC Is No Longer Coming

" @Th3_James said:

" BF3 should be PC only..... We need another BF game that is the same quality as BF2 "

Agreed. "

As a consolation prize, can BF2, 2142, and all their packs be released for free? kthx

I have 1943 for the 360 and thats where it belongs. Simple, watered down, but fun.
 
I was fine with BC being a console spin-off of the series and BC2 was still a great multiplayer experience on PC, simplified for the console market, but still gave them a very good taster of what PC gamers have had for a long time.
 
I'd be lieing if I said I wasn't worried about BF3 being multiplatform. I love my consoles, but I hate the idea of losing what the potential of what BF3 could be.
 
Time will tell.

" This game should be consol only.  That way DICE can stop wasting useful talent trying to keep an archaic gaming system alive.   Seriously..PC gamers, join us in the 21st century and get off your fucking pedestals. "

" This is a great shame. 1943 would be a perfect fit on Steam. "

" As a consolation prize, can BF2, 2142, and all their packs be released for free? kthx "

" BF3 should be PC only..... We need another BF game that is the same quality as BF2 "

Makes sense, BF1943 is kinda older now, and they have bigger more important projects to do. BF3 will make up for any of this anyway. 

have you seen the game informer bf3 cover 
FUCKING A man FUCKING.... A 
 
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/03/march-cover-revealed-battlefield-3.aspx

" @Statutory_Grape said:

" This game should be consol only.  That way DICE can stop wasting useful talent trying to keep an archaic gaming system alive.   Seriously..PC gamers, join us in the 21st century and get off your fucking pedestals. "

Have fun with your archaic graphics, imprecise controls and matchmaking.   See, I can be elitist too. "

I never really cared about 1943, so no real loss for me there.  I got enough of that era in BF 1942 back in the day. My biggest concern is whether they're building Battlefield 3 around the PC first and then porting it to consoles or building it for consoles and porting it to the PC.  For a PC franchise like Battlefield I would hope the PC version is the main focus.  I don't mind ports, but I hope for once console gamers are the ones getting the port.

OH FUCK YEAH. With the "talent" of the BF1943 team involved, BF3 is just gonna be fucking awesome now. Nothing can go wrong.

Even though I'm not an avid PC gamer, I do wish BC3 stayed PC exclusive. It's be nice to have something crazy and unique that the console gamers don't have a watered-down version of.

This is a mega-bummer. Would thoroughly enjoyed this on the Xbox 360 and it will be missed. Hopefully Battlefield 3 will now become that much more amazing. 

" @voltan said:

" @Th3_James said:

" BF3 should be PC only..... We need another BF game that is the same quality as BF2 "

Agreed. "

Agreed  "

" @captain_clayman:  Games belong where the people want to play them. As a long time PC gamer, I look forward to playing Battlefield 3 on my Xbox 360. I'm sick and tired of people and their sacred cows.   Side note: Keyboards are decades old and designed for typing. You want archaic, thats as archaic as it gets. "

This is what happens when they get greedy and start to spread themselves too thin. 
 
I'm sorry, I love DICE, the Battlefield games are some of my favourite games of all time, but it's hardly a surprise this has happened since they were working on half a dozen games at once. 
 
I hate to be the kind of person that says consoles are ruining gaming, but they've definitely driven down the quality of the Battlefield games in my opinion. But you can't argue with sales I suppose. 
 
There's a lot of talk about how Battlefield 3 will be a return to form, at least for Battlefield games on the PC, but as long as it's multiplatform I can't help but feel it's going to be held back in some respects.

If they fuck up BF3, i will fuck THEM up! I live in norway it's only like a 5hour drive to their headquarters, i'll go Sam Fisher on their asses

I don't care seeing how I've played 43 to death already on PS3 but I'm kinda indifferent about BF3 at this point as well.  
 
BFBC2 is still going strong and I've poured hours into that and don't really see the need for another BF game so soon. Even if its a true sequel to BF2. 

 
Thats pretty good news if you ask me... but i don't have a gaming PC so.

" @Donos said:

" @captain_clayman:  Games belong where the people want to play them. As a long time PC gamer, I look forward to playing Battlefield 3 on my Xbox 360. I'm sick and tired of people and their sacred cows.   Side note: Keyboards are decades old and designed for typing. You want archaic, thats as archaic as it gets. "

The fact of the matter is that BF3 as it should be is not doable on consoles, that's the point.  Side note: you can call them archaic all you want but it doesn't stop me and every other PC gamer from tearing apart all the console kiddies with their little toy controllers.  Keyboard & Mouse >>>>> Controller when it comes to shooters (and a few other genres). This is a fact and I'm sure Microsoft would be happy to confirm it for you, especially after they discovered this during their Games for Windows Live and Xbox Live crossplay testing. Fucking massacre. "

Fuck you DICE. Keep your promises and respect your fans. I ended up buying this on PSN, but it's still insulting that they would ignore the biggest percentage of their audience like this.

BF3 had better be awesome. I played the shit out of BF2. Clan matches and all.

" @RsistncE said:

" @Donos said:

" @captain_clayman:  Games belong where the people want to play them. As a long time PC gamer, I look forward to playing Battlefield 3 on my Xbox 360. I'm sick and tired of people and their sacred cows.   Side note: Keyboards are decades old and designed for typing. You want archaic, thats as archaic as it gets. "

The fact of the matter is that BF3 as it should be is not doable on consoles, that's the point.  Side note: you can call them archaic all you want but it doesn't stop me and every other PC gamer from tearing apart all the console kiddies with their little toy controllers.  Keyboard & Mouse >>>>> Controller when it comes to shooters (and a few other genres). This is a fact and I'm sure Microsoft would be happy to confirm it for you, especially after they discovered this during their Games for Windows Live and Xbox Live crossplay testing. Fucking massacre. "

Dude -  KB&M may have the edge over Gamepad in a head to head competition, but it's the gaming experience which counts the most. Who cares if a KB&M player has the edge over a gamepad player, if they're never playing against one another...   An ergonomically designed gamepad with rumble feedback and triggers that gives you truely analog movement will always be superior for the FPS experience. Espcecially Battlefield with its tons of vehicles plays so much better on gamepad.  The only problem is the lack of hotkeys, which soon will be circumvented by the addition of motion tracking for every next generation console (PS4/Xbox 720). Stuff like leaning or cockpit freelook will be easily added to a controlscheme, wheres todays gamepads are somewhat limited with only 18 odd buttons. "

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" @RsistncE said:

" @Donos said:

" @captain_clayman:  Games belong where the people want to play them. As a long time PC gamer, I look forward to playing Battlefield 3 on my Xbox 360. I'm sick and tired of people and their sacred cows.   Side note: Keyboards are decades old and designed for typing. You want archaic, thats as archaic as it gets. "

The fact of the matter is that BF3 as it should be is not doable on consoles, that's the point.  Side note: you can call them archaic all you want but it doesn't stop me and every other PC gamer from tearing apart all the console kiddies with their little toy controllers.  Keyboard & Mouse >>>>> Controller when it comes to shooters (and a few other genres). This is a fact and I'm sure Microsoft would be happy to confirm it for you, especially after they discovered this during their Games for Windows Live and Xbox Live crossplay testing. Fucking massacre. "

Dude -  KB&M may have the edge over Gamepad in a head to head competition, but it's the gaming experience which counts the most. Who cares if a KB&M player has the edge over a gamepad player, if they're never playing against one another...   An ergonomically designed gamepad with rumble feedback and triggers that gives you truely analog movement will always be superior for the FPS experience. Espcecially Battlefield with its tons of vehicles plays so much better on gamepad.  The only problem is the lack of hotkeys, which soon will be circumvented by the addition of motion tracking for every next generation console (PS4/Xbox 720). Stuff like leaning or cockpit freelook will be easily added to a controlscheme, wheres todays gamepads are somewhat limited with only 18 odd buttons. "

I'm pretty confused here. You admit that keyboard and mouse is the better control scheme, performance wise, but then you claim control pads are superior? I'm assuming you're saying you PREFER game pads, since you're talking about the experience and in all honesty that comes down to what you're more comfortable with. Yeah, some people are more comfortable with a controller (mostly because that's where they started, a controller). I wasn't arguing that part, not even once. What I was saying was that keyboard and mouse let's you do things that you just can't in an FPS on a game pad. To think otherwise is pretty foolish because that's just a fact. I personally prefer a keyboard and mouse, like many others, because of the fact that I'm comfortable with it and controllers feel like a major handicap in shooters, which they are if you're able to play on a keyboard and mouse setup. By the way, have you never heard of an ergonomic keyboard and mouse before? haha 
 

@J12088:

 Yeah, because you clearly are doing yours right now...while also posting on game forums. A little more originality next time would be nice. "

• quick and easy aiming and fast turning
• lots of hotkeys

• natural panning
• analog movement
• analog triggers
• rumble feedback
• ergonomical formfactor

 
It's past its prime but couldn't involve a huge amount of additional development and cost. Why didn't they just stick it on Steam to tempt back the traditional BF audience?  
 
I guess the micropayments system of BF Heroes is more profitable on PCs compared to the single purchase / DLC on consoles.

" @Seppli:  - natural panning? I'm sorry I didn't realize that my hands can comfortably rest themselves on a keyboard, god forbid that I don't already spend most of my day typing on a keyboard as is.  - analog movement is a moot point. What first person shooters have you ever played that require analog movement instead of just walk and run? Yeah, that's what I though.  - again, have you never heard of ergonomic keyboards and mice? Any half decent mouse is shaped to fit your hand nowadays and keyboards have been ergonomically designed since carpal tunnel became such a big issue for people who type on keyboards a lot.  Yeah it's nice and all that you can quickscope etc. on a control pad, but I think you may be ignoring something here. AIM ASSIST. I find it pretty laughable that you think that you're actually pulling off those stunts all on your own, when you can't just because of the fact that thumbs aren't as accurate as an entire hand or all of your fingers. So no, you can't do everything someone can with a mouse, especially not without aim assist. Just go ahead and download a reaction time test for your PC and plug in a 360 controller and a mouse. You will not be able to move to the designated point as fast or as accurately with analog sticks as you can with your mouse.  You know what's laughable about your entire point about why BF in particular would be better on the console? The absolutely stupid assumption that PC players have only one control setup, like they're STUCK with it, kinda like how console gamers are mostly stuck with gamepads. I can use my mouse and keyboard to rally first person shooters, I can use a 360 pad (even a PS3 pad) for actioners, I can grab a joystick for any games that involve flight, or I can grab a wheel for racers. What you're not getting is that the ability to use whatever control setup you want for the PC is one of the reasons that the PC is so good for gaming. It's like console players just don't get it: you think people just spend $1300 on a top end gaming PC for fun? We do it because it's a better experience. Fun fact when it comes to everything in life: (generally) things that cost more are better than similar products that cost less. People would laugh at you if you claimed your Corolla could outrun an M6. Think about it. "

• About natural panning.... how often can you spin around with your mouse before you need to reset your hand? Yeah - I can spin forever with analogsticks. FOREVER.
• Your digitally crippeld brain can't fathom the greatness of analog movement. Creeping though the underbrush like a predator. Perfectly covering an angle and move freely at any speed while doing so. Pacing yourself in a vehicle to match the flow of the battle. Analog movement translates in more control. If you know what to do with that extra control, it's giving you a leg up.  In singleplayer, it adds an extra layer of atmosphere too.
  
• Even if a keyboard is ergonomical and specifically built for gaming, its inherent DNA is typing. It's an office tool. It's not built for modern gaming. It's best suited for text adventures such as World of Warcraft tradechannel adventures.

" @RsistncE:    Natural panning certainly matters when aiming at a moving target. With long viewing ranges, being in perfect control of panning your sights feels so much better than pointing and clicking with a mouse over and over again. You are just used to doing it the KB&M way, so you don't see how it doesn't feel as good as doing the same with a gamepad.  Tell that analog movement doesn't matter to the next BF ninja sticking a knife in your throat. Or to that snipers creeping around a mile away putting a bullet in your head without you ever seeing his 'movement signature'. Moving very slowly makes one harder to make out. People are like T-Rex in that way. The more foiliage and lighting and shadows and weather effects and depth of field and the likes become gameplay relevant, the more useful analog movement will become.  As a matter of fact, you can move in exactly 8 directions with KB movement. The 360 gamepad does 36 angles, if I remember my facts correctly. That's FOUR TIMES MORE CONTROL over your movement. You might not mind such limitations in outdated games working with non-organic angular architecture. More sophisticated games with more lifelike environments do feel a lot better to explore with full control. That's an understatement. Every game feels  better with analog movement. FPS games especially.  So yeah, Keyboards aren't made to enable analog movement, thus they suck donkeyballs in comparison.  And before you even start, I play with KB&M setup when needed and I'm fairly proficient at it. It just doesn't feel as good. It doesn't feel as good. Doesn't feel good. It feels like 8 angles instead of 36. It feels 4x less good. Not crippling, but not good. At all.  "

" @Seppli:  Hate to break it to you but there are such things as gameboards that combine things like analog sticks with a couple dozen keys to include things like analog movement. I use mine to help me fly helicopters. And what exactly do you mean by "natural panning"? That sounds a LOT like mouse deceleration, which is common in most recent first person action games. "

It's probably for the best, don't think many people were still waiting for this.

" @RsistncE:   You miss the point entirely. I do agree that you'll have the competitive edge with KB&M in direct competition against gamepads in many situtations. But who cares about that, when almost everybody plays on a gamepad?  Personally, I'd play the PC version of BF3 with a gamepad, if it was natively supported. The amount of situations, where the split-second competitive edge would even factor in are so few, they'd be vastly outnumbered by the comptetive edge the gamepad gives me in vehicular gameplay.  That's besides the point though. I say that playing FPS games FEEEEEEEELS better on a gamepad. More natural. More immersive. Smoother. The clicking of a mouse can't compete with the pulling of a trigger. The lack of rumble feedback is a vastly underrated presentational layer which adds to the experience. Pointing and clicking doesn't match up with handling two analogsticks in perfect unison pulling off impossible shots, because that actually takes some skill.  You argue KB&M is better, because it has a statistically proven competitive edge over gamepad. I argue that KB&M can't touch the gameplay experience on a gamepad. Not ever. Unless you're a cripple with two left tumbs. Then I feel for you. "

Company doesn't come through on it's commitments multiple times? Means Ilmy wallet won't come through with a purchase the next opportunity I get. Money talks, and my money will be spent on games from devs that don't make empty promises. I don't need to be patronized.

They've spent a crazy amount of time supposedly working on these; things that were done and working on similar architecture (360). We have seem ports to radically different hardware done in less time by companies. Seems like they must not have neem working on it at all... That or there were 4 guys assigned to it and given no direction.

Don't jerk me around and tell me it's for my benefit. I appreciate honesty, not empty promises in an attempt to make me feel good. What's to say this won't happen with BF3 content? Given Dice's recent history, I can't put much faith in this not reoccurring. The support they've shown their PC titled this generation ranges from absemt to just enough to get by.

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• About natural panning.... how often can you spin around with your mouse before you need to reset your hand? Yeah - I can spin forever with analogsticks. FOREVER.
• Your digitally crippeld brain can't fathom the greatness of analog movement. Creeping though the underbrush like a predator. Perfectly covering an angle and move freely at any speed while doing so. Pacing yourself in a vehicle to match the flow of the battle. Analog movement translates in more control. If you know what to do with that extra control, it's giving you a leg up.  In singleplayer, it adds an extra layer of atmosphere too.
  
• Even if a keyboard is ergonomical and specifically built for gaming, its inherent DNA is typing. It's an office tool. It's not built for modern gaming. It's best suited for text adventures such as World of Warcraft tradechannel adventures.

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