Mass Effect 3 to (Finally) Support Same-Sex Love Interests

Good.  I always found it cowardly of BioWare in ME1 (haven't played 2 , yet) that they were ok with having you be able to get it on with the Asari as a female but no option for two dudes, simply because at this point in time it is a cop-out.   Lesbians are cool, gays are too risky for sales = cowardly.  Then again, maybe they shot themselves in the foot with the way you are suddenly presented with the love-making cut-scene based on your choices.. but i am pretty sure that I remember having to choose dialogue options that were heartfelt, lovey-dovey to have a relationship feeling with the characters to begin with..   i don't think anyone who is terrified of seeing a homosexual relationship in this game is going to stumble into one by mistake.

Another issue.., it was too ridiculous that the only females you actually ever saw were human or Asari.. and the Asari all looked pretty human-female (germophobe girl doesn't count, you never really see her.. but she has some huge human knockers, doesn't she? ... ).

so bioware rpg's are the new Torchwood?

gay or straight, the ME romances are all shallow anyway. The only reason you pursue them is to see the sex scenes. I don't see why this is news-worthy but that's not my decision.

If anyone wants to see the lesbian ending to Shadow Broker, I recorded it and slapped some music on it. I usually play as the default Shepard but I'm definitely continuing this character in ME3, she's just too awesome.

If by "finally" you mean, since the first game, then sure.

This might not be the case. From Casey Hudson's twitter:

 Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3

@hermes said:

@BibleDoctor said:

@hermes said: 

Besides, same sex love interests were available in ME 1 too, and not many people complained...

Interest, not plural.

Just for the sake of "political correctness", there was the possibility or there was not. Whether it was one option or hundreds, its not the point.

That isn't what the majority of the people arguing about this are worried about. Liara was scripted as a 'bisexual' option, what they hinted at doing now implies the plan on altering characters that they have spent two games building into the same ambiguous sexual orientation that all the romance options in DA2 were. In addition to that distaste, the way the romances in ME2 were handled it adds another fear. If you shot down a character who expressed romantic interest in you during ME2, there was no more dialogue after that. There were no more scripted conversations, and the development stopped at pretty much the 'no' coming from your characters mouth. The worry is that Bioware will throw the blanket of the ambiguous sexuality over every character who you've spent two games getting attached to, and then have their dialogue and your interaction with them cut short when you shoot them down.

It isn't that people don't want homosexual romance options in the fucking game. I'd love to see a gay male or female character, who isn't some strange sexual orientation that relates only to the PC, but as strong homosexual character. Who is written as such. It's lazy writing, especially in regards to how important the interpersonal relationships are in the Mass Effect games, to just opt out of giving the character an orientation.

gay or straight, the ME romances are all shallow anyway. The only reason you pursue them is to see the sex scenes. I don't see why this is news-worthy but that's not my decision.

Glad to see they've got sex continuity, although I hope romantic gestures are alittle less subtle than in Dragon Age, a compliment doesnt always mean I want to hit that..

The other part (about the orientation), I don't agree that much. As many other things, sexual orientation is part of what you decide for your character. Its part of who do you decide to be, as Sheppard. As well as whether you decide to punch the reporter or scare that fanboy, its part of the roleplaying. The fact that most options you have affect a small portion of the game (and possibly of the sequels) is unfortunate, but the sex orientation is hardly the only place. I didn't notice much more repercussions in the decision of who do you decide to engage with as in whether you decide to save the council or not (besides the scope of one single mission).

Now, if you check the comments again, you will see that most people indeed "don't want homosexual romance options in the fucking game", specially went there is no mention of who those options might be... there is no proof that they will rewrite Garrus and Mordin to be interested all of a sudden, instead of introducing some new character to open up the possibilities... They even say that in the article.

Everyone is really overreacting form anti-gay to full disclosure. Honestly i wish they'd simply stop wasting time on this and make sure that ME3 isn't another DA2. Also To people saying this is a progressive move, every coin has two sides. What if someone played a renegade Shepard, do you really think Renegade hetero shepard would look nicely upon a same sex advance? He'd probably beat the crap out of the other character.

Also these aren't relationships, its moving up a dialog tree to see someone in their undies.  So either way drop it and make gameplay better. Anyone who cares about this is more of a role-player, and if we start giving into role-player demands, oh god help us all.

My male shepard can finally bang jacob, awesome.

Everyone is really overreacting form anti-gay to full disclosure. Honestly i wish they'd simply stop wasting time on this and make sure that ME3 isn't another DA2. Also To people saying this is a progressive move, every coin has two sides. What if someone played a renegade Shepard, do you really think Renegade hetero shepard would look nicely upon a same sex advance? He'd probably beat the crap out of the other character. Also these aren't relationships, its moving up a dialog tree to see someone in their undies.  So either way drop it and make gameplay better. Anyone who cares about this is more of a role-player, and if we start giving into role-player demands, oh god help us all.

Well my femshep already ...ahem did it with Liara so its kinda of same sex ain't it? Never the less good to know .... for my other playthroughs ;)

@hermes said: 

The other part (about the orientation), I don't agree that much. As many other things, sexual orientation is part of what you decide for your character. Its part of who do you decide to be, as Sheppard. As well as whether you decide to punch the reporter or scare that fanboy, its part of the roleplaying. The fact that most options you have affect a small portion of the game (and possibly of the sequels) is unfortunate, but the sex orientation is hardly the only place. I didn't notice much more repercussions in the decision of who do you decide to engage with as in whether you decide to save the council or not (besides the scope of one single mission).

Now, if you check the comments again, you will see that most people indeed "don't want homosexual romance options in the fucking game", specially went there is no mention of who those options might be... there is no proof that they will rewrite Garrus and Mordin to be interested all of a sudden, instead of introducing some new character to open up the possibilities... They even say that in the article.

That was difficult to read, the subtle spelling errors threw me for a loop. As I was reading through I kept auto correcting in my head, and then debating if they needed to be corrected at all. When I realized that they did, I also realized that I was reading the same sentence over and over again. Anyways.

• The repercussions of denying an initiated romance in ME2 were that you couldn't interact with the character on a conversation level anymore, which would kill character development. Especially if too many people are available for romancing both genders.
• They don't want homosexual romances in the game because the way that Bioware is implying they will implement them, is to make the characters from the first few games have an orientation which they have not had in the past. Which causes the above issue to come to mind.

I'm not going to retype my whole previous post. Nearly everything you've stated in this post, I touched on in my previous post. So we're beginning to go in circles here, and i'm not into it..

In reference to your last few lines, I never said I knew who they were going to rewrite or change. I never said anything about Garrus or Mordin doing anything. I'm not saying there is proof, I don't know where you got that information and why you made it up. I am saying that the way Bioware (Casey Hudson) implied this might happen is causing people to assume, based on Bioware's recent game and their responses on the Bioware boards, that this could be an eventual and probable outcome. This assumption is generating discussion on how fans would feel if this did happen and how similar to 'retcon' it actually is.

I'm hungry.

I always found it offensive that polyamory was more accepted than same-sex relations. Eh. Still gonna pair Femshep with Liara anyway.

Sorry about the spelling. English is not my main language and it gets more noticeable the longer the sentences. Right now I am using Chrome corrector as a way to minimize the spelling mistakes, which is likely not the best option.

About the rewrite... They have said that they are not necessarily going to rewrite any established character to fit the role of the male Sheppard homosexual love interest. They are likely going to introduce some new character that opens up that possibility. Garrus and Mordin are never mentioned in the article and I am only using them as examples of characters people fear they would rewrite to fit the LI role (which, again, they are not)...

As long as I don't get every single character wanting to get into the party in my pants after one sentence of dialogue, I'm ok with it.

alright then.

BIOWARE IS A PART OF THE GAY CONSPIRACY AND THEY PRODUCE GAY SEX SIMULATORS
But more seriously, this. 
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8768-Extra-Punctuation-Roleplaying-Homosexual-in-Dragon-Age-2
    Really, why is this even news? I don't understand the fascination with having a homosexual or bestiality loving character. As a bisexual duder I find it more offensive that people are advertising it than not having it at all, like it's some sort of gift to the world. If they want to do it, sure, fine, go bananas (hehe) but it shouldn't be something to draw attention to, any more than the protagonist of Gears being straight and not at all ramming Dom up the ass with his Lancer.

I'm by no means a homophobe, but I really hope they do this better than it was in Dragon Age 2

It was SO ANNOYING when I'm trying to be friendly to Anders and suddenly LOL LETS FUCK.

Well, the FemShep/Liara pairing was always essentially a lesbian relationship. Yes, I know the Asari only have one sex and people call them androgynous, but sorry: they have boobs. Thus, they might as well be female.

The '(finally)' bit seems a little stupid. Commander Shepard is a character with his own interests, sure the player may end up deciding almost everything for him, but he/she has to keep some sort of independence. I'm not against this whole same sex interest thing, but it feels like Shepard's character has been decided and now BioWare is starting to create a 'every-conceivable-option-game'. I'm not against this whole homosexual thing, but I'm not supporting it.  

So much homophobia masked behind empty criticisms about video game romances.  Seems like there should be less of this going on in 2011 than I'm seeing here.  Nobody is being forced to into a romance option.  The idea that someone would be outright offended that an option was provided that someone other than yourself might take advantage of is demonstrative of a much deeper seated issue.

I bet you're they are going to retcon the sexuality of characters like they did with Anders in DA2

Finally, my dream of space lesbian Shepard has come true.  Travelling the galaxy having lesbian sex with space ladies, and kicking space bitches out of space windows.

Space.

im tired of all this political correctness bullshit

BIOWARE IS A PART OF THE GAY CONSPIRACY AND THEY PRODUCE GAY SEX SIMULATORS
But more seriously, this. 
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8768-Extra-Punctuation-Roleplaying-Homosexual-in-Dragon-Age-2
    Really, why is this even news? I don't understand the fascination with having a homosexual or bestiality loving character. As a bisexual duder I find it more offensive that people are advertising it than not having it at all, like it's some sort of gift to the world. If they want to do it, sure, fine, go bananas (hehe) but it shouldn't be something to draw attention to, any more than the protagonist of Gears being straight and not at all ramming Dom up the ass with his Lancer.

@Aetheldod

   Somehow it's fine for lesbians to do the scissors thing, but if two guys want to swordfight people start doing spit-takes. I think that's what this article is clarifying.

So does this mean all the characters will be bisexual again?

im tired of all this political correctness bullshit

who cares if you offend someone? they should realize living life isn't about constantly waiting for people to offend you so you can pounce on the smallest innuendos and make a huge deal out of nothing.

i dont want gay people hitting on me when walking down the street doing my thing, and i dont want gay characters hitting on me when im trying to play my games.  thats just not something i'm cool with

but hey i'm straight.  and if you're gay you feel the exact opposite as me.  i can understand that.  just don't throw it in my face.  

People actually complained about the lack of gay relationships in ME1 and 2?

Who cares about same-sex relationships? I just want to fuck a Hanar.

*This one enjoys the feeling of a human penis*

Lol great, a more developed dating sim. Now ME3 is perfect.

 @S0ndor said:

@Mowgers said:

So tired of sex in games being newsworthy. It was interesting, now it's just dull. Seriously. Who gives a flying hows-your-father about this?

Romance, not sex

 lolwut? If that's romance then farting at people in fable is conversation."Oh hey, you made it through three conversation trees. Lets bang!"

Hopefully, there won't be fans bitching about the availability of it. Then again, having one of the writers eviscerate another forum member would be great.

Lol craziness! I'm in no way against this or whatever...I just feel bad because Bioware is probably going to get flamed to oblivion for this. :P

Who cares about same-sex relationships? I just want to fuck a Hanar.*This one enjoys the feeling of a human penis*

Imma coming for you Mordin

Yeah for equality, should have happened sooner, life goes on.