Sony Responds to Criticisms of PlayStation Network's 'Welcome Back' Lineup

@Enigma777 said:

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out.  What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

Not only that, but these are games they've offered free/discounted many times in the past, ie Wipeout HD was free with PSN+. It's just lazy.

Sony!

What a bunch of jerks giving us games for free!

*slow -- yet sracastic -- clap*

People I will take your anger if you own all of these games but please do not seriously think that they should have given you money in your wallet. That is insane and would cost the company billions. When Xbox went down they gave away games because it wouldn't cost them that much, same with this situation. 

That's over 84%!

It's a lackluster decision on Sony's part. If you're a casual Sony gamer or you don't own any of the titles, then of course you're satisfied. But, if you occasionally play your PS3, these games are so old, you probably already have them. If you're a loyal Sony patriot, then guess what, Sony could care less about you. No, Sony doesn't have to add money into everyone's PSN accounts, but for the leak of personal information, a small sum would be a nice gesture. What's even easier? Add more first party games to the selection. Yes, it'll cost Sony money. They'll have to take the hit, and they can't continue to act like the victim. Is personal information not valuable anymore?    


@zigx: That's an incredibly naive perspective. You invest in the Sony platform with the belief that Sony will protect your information. It's the hackers' fault this happened? Because Sony's protection was so weak? Because Sony chose not to encrypt your data? Networks get attacked more often than you believe. Sony is at fault here too.

$40 PSN credit.  It literally costs them nothing.

Now people are complaining about getting free stuff because they had to play singleplayer games or games on another console for a couple of weeks? pfft

I'm actually surprised they offered so much. For the "free" users they could've easily given a couple months of PSN+ and argued it was more than generous.

Oh boo fucking hoo at least they are offering something. Not to mention the free month of Premium Memberships.

Yes, Sony fucked up, but this is getting ridiculous.

I'm going to stop reading the comments here just because people are being so stupid.  They just can't hand out some credit to ever PS3 owner.  It would make the PSN virtually un-profitable for the next couple of months.  Everyone needs to stop whining and just enjoy what they have.  I could care less about the free games.  I'm more looking foward to some deals with the PS+ account.  But I'm happier now that I can get ready for Uncharted 3 with some more online play of 2.  I'm glad I can finally publish my first LBP2 level and play what everyone else has been working on during the outage!

So Live goes down for 2 weeks, Microsoft gives its customers a selection of 1 $10 game: Undertow

You could give everyone in the world a bag of gold coins... some people would still bitch that the bag is too heavy, not the right color, then threaten to sue.

Screw You Sony!!!!

@Nasar7 said:

@Enigma777 said:

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out.  What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

Not only that, but these are games they've offered free/discounted many times in the past, ie Wipeout HD was free with PSN+. It's just lazy.

As well as the fact LBP has a much improved sequel and inFamous is an obvious attempt to drum up interest in the sequel next month.
Sorry, but it's hard to see this as anything but cynical.  They scraped together a few titles that will give them the least losses and potentially even sell a few new games.  Their selection had nothing to do with creating a well rounded list for us.

Pretty sad to see that so many have been suckered in.

People feel entitled to everything. It's amazing. 

@boylie said:

I don't think he even had to do that much. I'm sure for 90% of the population, this offering will be just fine. They did what they could to offer actual valuable games that people would want to play, but that still won't work for everyone. I don't own InFamous (though I already borrowed it off a friend and played it to completion twice) or Dead Nation (which is apparently meh), but I guess that's what I'll be taking, cause I have the rest of them. And hey guess what? That's still 2 free games for me.

GAWD people.

GAWD.

Don't forget that these free games are meant as compensation, if people aren't happy with what they're providing, I don't see why they shouldn't complain.  It's Sony that screwed up, remember?

Now,  I'm not completely unhappy with the list, I think the PSP offerings are pretty good..  But the PS3 choices weren't exactly the best, they're all extremely old games - even if you don't own them, things like LBP and inFamous can be picked up for very cheap.  People would have complained either way, but I think their selection could have been a little better.

I don't understand why people are being so accepting of this, in all honesty the welcome back package sucks. 

People I will take your anger if you own all of these games but please do not seriously think that they should have given you money in your wallet. That is insane and would cost the company billions. When Xbox went down they gave away games because it wouldn't cost them that much, same with this situation. 

@WinterSnowblind said:

@Nasar7 said:

@Enigma777 said:

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out.  What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

Not only that, but these are games they've offered free/discounted many times in the past, ie Wipeout HD was free with PSN+. It's just lazy.

As well as the fact LBP has a much improved sequel and inFamous is an obvious attempt to drum up interest in the sequel next month.
Sorry, but it's hard to see this as anything but cynical.  They scraped together a few titles that will give them the least losses and potentially even sell a few new games.  Their selection had nothing to do with creating a well rounded list for us.

Pretty sad to see that so many have been suckered in.

So sad to see people whining about free games that you don't fucking deserve. Seriously, PSN IS A FREE SERVICE. FREE. Repeat that in your head again, FREE. PS Plus members are getting rightfully compensated.

But YOU, you the NORMAL PSN USER DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION FOR ANYTHING. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN. SERVICE = FREE. By the way, caps are for emphasis for peoples stupidity, not because im angry.

They could give you a blowjob and a copy of Killzone 3 and guess what, people like you would still cry.

If people are getting suckered into getting free games, then DAMN, I GUESS I WANNA BE A SUCKER.

Gahh i own 4 out of 5 and the 5th i dont care about. This was really shitty. Yeh they are all good games and if i didnt have them i would be happy but when the only game i dont own i dont whant i do agree with what some here allready said. Give us some PSN moneys and ill be happy or at least give us 10-15 games to chose from.

I like that his response suggests that the user doesn't want anything in the lineup, as if he isn't interested in them in any way. Obviously he wanted the games, because he fucking well owns them already.

So he's basically apologizing that the user had the audacity to buy games from Sony in the past.

If they are still sticking to that inflated 77m user figure - will all those people with multiple accounts be entitled to multiple free games? ;-)

@RE_Player92 said:

People I will take your anger if you own all of these games but please do not seriously think that they should have given you money in your wallet. That is insane and would cost the company billions. When Xbox went down they gave away games because it wouldn't cost them that much, same with this situation. 

Then take it! TAKE IT ALL!

I do agree about the PSN funds though. There's no way Sony would ever take such a big hit and I honestly never expected them to do it. It wouldn't hurt if they added a couple more first-party games on that list though...

Really sick of seeing users complaining about free shit in every gaming site and blog I visit.

Honestly, even if they didn't give out games, ps+ members are getting very good compensation, and free users are getting fair compensation. Not to mention sony is making good by giving out identity theft protection service.

Jesus, people, get a grip and just calm down. Just because you can share an opinion doesn't mean you should always express such a pissed off, negative one.

While I'm not deeply offended by the games they chose to offer up and who knows maybe I'll get some of them since I actually don't own infamous or littlebigplanet I still feel some free PsN credit would have been nicer.  Even if it were just like 50 bucks worth, I'd definitely be happier with some free dlc.

@Surkov: Microsoft's service didn't go down for two weeks though, it only ran badly..  They also didn't put millions of people at risk to criminals.  It was still a sucky 'peace offering' but it was much less of a big deal.

@Microshock said:

@WinterSnowblind said:

@Nasar7 said:

@Enigma777 said:

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out.  What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

Not only that, but these are games they've offered free/discounted many times in the past, ie Wipeout HD was free with PSN+. It's just lazy.

As well as the fact LBP has a much improved sequel and inFamous is an obvious attempt to drum up interest in the sequel next month.
Sorry, but it's hard to see this as anything but cynical.  They scraped together a few titles that will give them the least losses and potentially even sell a few new games.  Their selection had nothing to do with creating a well rounded list for us.

Pretty sad to see that so many have been suckered in.

So sad to see people whining about free games that you don't fucking deserve. Seriously, PSN IS A FREE SERVICE. FREE. Repeat that in your head again, FREE. PS Plus members are getting rightfully compensated.

But YOU, you the NORMAL PSN USER DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION FOR ANYTHING. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN. SERVICE = FREE. By the way, caps are for emphasis for peoples stupidity, not because im angry.

They could give you a blowjob and a copy of Killzone 3 and guess what, people like you would still cry.

If people are getting suckered into getting free games, then DAMN, I GUESS I WANNA BE A SUCKER.

Read my other posts, no need to be so hostile.  But once again, Sony are the ones who screwed up here, not the consumers.  They're giving us these free games in an attempt to say sorry and to try and make up for everything that happened.  Sure, they don't owe us anything but if I never want to trust Sony again with my personal details or sell my PS3 as a result, that's a big problem for them.  These games are supposed to stop us from wanting to do that.  Now consider that all of these games are very old, cheap to pick up, outdated, or about to be replaced by big budget sequels.. How great of a deal is this?  Especially to hardcore PS3 fans who already own all the games and have just been told "tough shit".  It's a bad deal that's been designed to make Sony profit as much as possible and give as little back to the consumers who've been damaged as possible.  If you're getting a free game that you wanted, then cool. But sorry if I don't see Sony as the good guys in all this.

if i was in place of that sony guy, i would have posted some lame comment like "now you'll have them twice, that's twice the fun :)"
bad luck for those who have all the games. i'm very happy with getting some free new games!

I wanted a free Xbox Live subscription and an iPod. What the fuck, Sony.

While I am bummed as I own all of those games, still I can't expect them to offer everything.  I suppose they could have offered "points" or credit but then we'd probably get less in value.

It's not hard to please me, just give me a Benjamin or two... even!

Even though I got all these games I'm happy they did something.  

I don't understand why people are being so accepting of this, in all honesty the welcome back package sucks. 

People say that you can't complain because it's free and you should be grateful, well, dog shit is free but if I gave you some I think you'd probably be a little pissed. (not saying these games are dog shit, just trying to make a point) 


Well I was without PSN for 24 days and have been offered things that I already own/don't want and that is really old, I'm not exactly asking for L.A Noire or anything but something from 2009/2010 at least. 

It seems to me there should be little to complain about when we are talking about FREE.

@Microshock: Apparently you've never heard of identity theft.  Rebuilding their network now that all of our information is in the hands of criminals is hardly going to help.

They've pretty much done as much as possible to protect against it, but I'm not one who's crying over the offerings, I'm just not taking Sony's side on it.  They aren't doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, they're simply trying to twist a very negative situation for them into a positive one.. the fact people like you are so willingly swallowing it up is pretty pathetic.

At least this ordeal has helped us show who the fanboys are.

Gesh the nerve of some people seriously and gosh I couldn't even begin to imagine what some people would do if the rest of the world was in Asia's current predicament right now.
But in all seriousness, you'd think people would just be grateful enough to have it back finally?! So before anymore people cry foul for lousy compensation, they really should think about how it would be to be still offline for the perceivable future and with no word otherwise too. 

"A user base of 77m people"... yeah right...

This makes me wish ms would publish how many new xbl gold members they got during the psn outage.

It's the thought that counts. Sony could have gong the Microsoft route and just offer everyone a copy of Undertow. I can't believe people are flipping out over this for such a stupid reason. Jesus. If you have the retail game already, trade it in (assuming you've got a boxed copy) and take the free offer. They could have given everyone a free month of Playstation Plus and be done with it, but they didn't. The fact they've made these games available is a good gesture, at the very least.

as soon as i saw the list i sold my copy of little big planet lol

Would have been nice if they offered something that wasn't old as dirt, outdated or about to recieve a sequel, but it's cool they're doing it in general. Doesn't real make me forgive their bullshit, because you can see through the choices and pretty much conclude on all the marketing reasons behind them immediately. Still, free is free, I guess. Actually won't mind getting Pursuit Force for my PSP.