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Yes, Virginia, Modern Warfare 3 Will Have Dedicated PC Servers

Activision finally gives the fervent, vitriolic fans what they've been demanding since Modern Warfare 2.

If you're one of the many, many PC players of Modern Warfare 2 that was, shall we say, less-than-enthused about Activision and Infinity Ward's decision not to include support for dedicated servers, you may now put down your pitchforks and delete your online petitions: Modern Warfare 3 is getting dedicated servers.

You're going to have to find something else in Modern Warfare 3 to make the subject of your Hitler freakout video.
You're going to have to find something else in Modern Warfare 3 to make the subject of your Hitler freakout video.

This news of Activision's sudden 180 on the subject comes via IGN, who confirmed from Activision reps at Gamescom that Modern Warfare 3 will fully support dedicated servers on the PC. IGN says that this is part of a larger effort to show PC players that Activision is still very much dedicated to the PC platform.

While this news is no doubt exciting to potential Modern Warfare 3 players, the publisher evidently still has some concerns about opening up the servers in such fashion. Specifically, the inclusion of dedicated servers does mean that it would, in theory at least, be easier to cheat in online multiplayer matches. This is especially an issue given the upcoming debut of Call of Duty Elite, which Activision plans to use to hold a number of multiplayer-oriented contests with "millions and millions of dollars" worth of prizes.

With that in mind, Activision has apparently said that they will not ship Modern Warfare 3 until developers are sure they can keep the play environment fair and balanced. Given the unlikelihood of Activision missing its planned November 8 release date, we can presume then that the game will be as secure and cheater-proof as it possibly can be by that date, and that any suggestions otherwise will be treated as the maniacal ravings of the lunatic fringe that they most assuredly are.

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Geez, I get that Alex being snarky and cynical is his thing, but at this point it's weird seeing a videogame website where people make their livings talking about video games telling their audience that they're dumb crazy nerds for wanting games to be good.

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Specifically, the inclusion of dedicated servers does mean that it would, in theory at least, be easier to cheat in online multiplayer matches.
 
That's complete bull crap, if anything dedicated servers make it HARDER to cheat, since you can actually get a server admin to ban cheaters. With matchmaking all you can do is report him and then either try to find a new match, or deal with him. Which is crap. How matchmaking became the multiplayer standard I'll never understand. Maybe it's easier to force DLC down peoples' throats that way.
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So it might be easier to cheat?

How rock-solid were MW2's anti-cheat measures again?

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..the publisher evidently still has some concerns about opening up the servers in such fashion. Specifically, the inclusion of dedicated servers does mean that it would, in theory at least, be easier to cheat in online multiplayer matches.  

well that's nice and all, but from my limited knowledge, never playing MW2 on any platform, cheating is easy as pie anyway.  A problem present and exacerbated by the absence of admins around to keep most of the hackers/griefers out of a match.  
 
With the inclusion of the Elite service however it does begin to present problems as there are always servers that are not closely monitored by it's owners or server owners outright attempting to cheat the system themselves.  Problems that they will undoubtedly settle on solving by using a server system similar to Black Ops, which is a compromise, but hardly fully satisfying to most players.
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@Crushed: I don't think I actually recall calling anyone dumb, crazy nerds for wanting games to be better. If anything, I'm pro-dedicated servers. In fact, reading over the story, I can't actually find a single thing that's negatively pointed toward players who wanted MW to have dedicated servers.

Am I just taking crazy pills? Or are people thoroughly misreading me?

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What has BF3 to do with anything? I'm excited about this!

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@wickedsc3: :(
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@DAFTPUNK said:
BF3 nuff said
Oh look, relevance 
Oh look, relevance 
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@Alex said:

@Crushed: I don't think I actually recall calling anyone dumb, crazy nerds for wanting games to be better. If anything, I'm pro-dedicated servers. In fact, reading over the story, I can't actually find a single thing that's negatively pointed toward players who wanted MW to have dedicated servers.

Am I just taking crazy pills? Or are people thoroughly misreading me?

The following 2 lines might have something to do with it:

Activision finally gives the fervent, vitriolic fans what they've been demanding since Modern Warfare 2.

You're going to have to find something else in Modern Warfare 3 to make the subject of your Hitler freakout video.

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@Binman88 said:

@CandleJakk said:

It won't make a difference, all the PC gamers will still pirate it, then complain about the balance or spawning issues and threaten to boycott the next CoD all over again. Guh.

Congratulations on posting the first "look at me, I'm a generalising cunt" comment on a PC related article!

I pre-ordered MW2, hoping the lack of dedicated servers wouldn't be much of a problem, and was severely disappointed with the multiplayer component of the game. If not for this news (which is good news), I would have completely ignored this game - once bitten, twice shy and all that. There's no need to paint this announcement in a negative light as Alex has done here. To me, it reeks of bitterness. Try expanding your audience, instead of pandering to the one you have.

@mbr said:

Meanwhile on consoles: 12 year old kids getting bent over and willfully raped for the millionth time.

Well, I'm terribly sorry for noticing these common patterns with PC gamers. As for being a generalising cunt, yes it's a stereotype that obviously, not everyone will conform to, much like PC fans are quick to point out that 'every' console player is a twelve year old retard who likes to be promiscuous with the world's mothers. As for expanding my audience, I do legitimately play across all platforms, however my main choice of platform rests solely on comfort - I don't like Mouse & Keys, so I play consoles more. Could I grab a wired controller? Sure I could; but wait - none of my friends tend to play on PC, and I'd have to buy another headset, and upgrade my hardware again before long to get the best experience. Sometimes, playing on a technologically worse platform is much better value for money. So, what have I got to be bitter about exactly, except many, many people's apparent contentment with their lack of scruple and morals getting on their high horses telling me I'm an idiot for baseless reasons?
 
Edit: Damn editor won't let me de-bold my text.

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@Tennmuerti: If you're going to pretend that the dialogue directed at Activision over that stuff wasn't vitriolic, you're insane. It doesn't make the sentiment wrong, but I've read the same forum comments as everyone else, and that shit got VILE at times.

Also, for serious? It's a Hitler meme joke. I don't think that translates to a bitter, cynical takedown of people wanting games to be good.

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@CandleJakk said:

It won't make a difference, all the PC gamers will still pirate it, then complain about the balance or spawning issues and threaten to boycott the next CoD all over again. Guh.

All the PC gamers? Is this what console players actually think? Sad.

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Meh, not buying this at launch. Add all the features and cool stuff you want, I'm going to wait and see what the finished product looks and plays like before I spend any money.

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It's good that they are doing this for those who want to play it.  It makes me more likely to buy it at some point on sale if the campaign has the ending to Captain Price/Soap's story.

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Wish they'd do dedis for consoles aswell. I hate p2p gaming. Just a handful games do dedicated servers on consoles too, like Battlefield and MAG.
 
Dedicated servers offer a so much better experience.

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Zzz no one cares about call of duty anymore.

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@ds8k: It isn't and for the record, I don't believe all of them will pirate it - it just seems that way when so many games-related forums/messageboards are full of comments like 'I've never paid for a game in my life - why the fuck should I?' Like Binman88 said - I'm a generalising cunt.
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@Alex said:

@Tennmuerti: If you're going to pretend that the dialogue directed at Activision over that stuff wasn't vitriolic, you're insane. It doesn't make the sentiment wrong, but I've read the same forum comments as everyone else, and that shit got VILE at times.

Also, for serious? It's a Hitler meme joke. I don't think that translates to a bitter, cynical takedown of people wanting games to be good.

All I did was try to help and point out why other people might have formed such an impression of the tone of the article. You said you couldn't find a single negative thing pointed towards the players, so I quoted 2 that people could have taken as such.

Why are you suddenly at everyone's throat? Bad day?

Well, this has just now gotten kind of unpleasant. (for me anyway)

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PC games blah blah console games blah blah we all know that the DS version dominates.

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@Tennmuerti: Fair enough (and yes, not a stellar day). Apologies if I have come off overly challenging. Suffice it to say, I disagree with your sentiment. I think I'm just a little exhausted with the notion that poking fun at game news somehow translates to me being an embittered, joyless human being, which is sometimes the feeling I get from comments around here.

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I primarily play shooters on PC and I do not like Battlefield.

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CoD:Blops had Dedicated servers are well... what I want to know is if I'll be able to actually play on the same team as my friends this time.

The main reason why my friends and I quit playing CoD: Blops was the lack of ability to play together as a team. Sure it's fun to play against your buddies sometimes, but it's also fun to play WITH your buddies.

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@Alex: Don't worry I for one enjoy the less serious take on the goings on of the gaming world.

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@Binman88 said:

@CandleJakk said:

It won't make a difference, all the PC gamers will still pirate it, then complain about the balance or spawning issues and threaten to boycott the next CoD all over again. Guh.

Congratulations on posting the first "look at me, I'm a generalising cunt" comment on a PC related article!

Indeed.

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@Alex: For what it's worth, I love your articles Alex. Keep up the good work!

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Gamescom in germany says pretty much how its going to end...  this is the line to play the games....
 

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@Tennmuerti: Thanks dude.

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Dedicated servers, but at what Captain Price?

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Pretty sure Activision has said otherwise previously with regards to MW3, so I'll wait and see if there's a retraction (I wouldn't be surprised).

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@cribbel1: lol

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About fucking time

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Fervent, vitriolic fans who immediately bought Modern Warfare 2 despite their boycott.

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@Tumbler said:

Meh, not buying this at launch. Add all the features and cool stuff you want, I'm going to wait and see what the finished product looks and plays like before I spend any money.

...do you really not know what the next call of duty is going to look and play like?

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I'm firmly in the Battlefield 3 camp this time round. Laying out a pretty penny for a new PC for it as well.

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*yawn* wake me me up when Activision starts caring about the consumers.

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@CandleJakksaid:

@Binman88 said:

@CandleJakk said:

It won't make a difference, all the PC gamers will still pirate it, then complain about the balance or spawning issues and threaten to boycott the next CoD all over again. Guh.

Congratulations on posting the first "look at me, I'm a generalising cunt" comment on a PC related article!

I pre-ordered MW2, hoping the lack of dedicated servers wouldn't be much of a problem, and was severely disappointed with the multiplayer component of the game. If not for this news (which is good news), I would have completely ignored this game - once bitten, twice shy and all that. There's no need to paint this announcement in a negative light as Alex has done here. To me, it reeks of bitterness. Try expanding your audience, instead of pandering to the one you have.

@mbr said:

Meanwhile on consoles: 12 year old kids getting bent over and willfully raped for the millionth time.

Well, I'm terribly sorry for noticing these common patterns with PC gamers. As for being a generalising cunt, yes it's a stereotype that obviously, not everyone will conform to, much like PC fans are quick to point out that 'every' console player is a twelve year old retard who likes to be promiscuous with the world's mothers. As for expanding my audience, I do legitimately play across all platforms, however my main choice of platform rests solely on comfort - I don't like Mouse & Keys, so I play consoles more. Could I grab a wired controller? Sure I could; but wait - none of my friends tend to play on PC, and I'd have to buy another headset, and upgrade my hardware again before long to get the best experience. Sometimes, playing on a technologically worse platform is much better value for money. So, what have I got to be bitter about exactly, except many, many people's apparent contentment with their lack of scruple and morals getting on their high horses telling me I'm an idiot for baseless reasons?

Edit: Damn editor won't let me de-bold my text.

The Big Comfty Couch argument. Brilliant.

And he wasn't calling you an idiot for baseless reasons. He was calling you an idiot for being a "generalising cunt" [sic].

I don't even understand why you're telling him why you prefer playing on consoles rather than a PC. That wasn't even the argument. The argument was that you were being an ass. Nobody cares that you can't afford a great chair, or that a keyboard and mouse is far too uncomfortable for your arthritic hands. That just reads like you're desperately trying to justify something to yourself.

Also, to @Binkman88? Relax. Alex was having fun with the news. There's no need to get bent out of shape.

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@cribbel1: cool out of context picture, probably made to look that way on purpose.
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@Alex_Carrillo said:

Relax.

That doesn't happen on a thread about MW (COD, whatever). Never. People, for some reason, get so worked up about anything MW, I've yet to see an online discussion even remotely related to it that hasn't quickly degenerated into vitriol and ad hominem attacks.

(But I'm sure that somewhere on the internet there is such a discussion, and I'm just being a generalizing cunt ;) )

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@Alex_Carrillo: You're right. I'm not bent out of shape really :p Just find it a bit annoying that any mention about PC games recently has had some sort of negative spin on it, when there's absolutely no need. 
 
@umdesch4 said:

@Alex_Carrillo said:

Relax.

That doesn't happen on a thread about MW (COD, whatever). Never. People, for some reason, get so worked up about anything MW, I've yet to see an online discussion even remotely related to it that hasn't quickly degenerated into vitriol and ad hominem attacks.

(But I'm sure that somewhere on the internet there is such a discussion, and I'm just being a generalizing cunt ;) )

You sure are!
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@cribbel1 said:
Gamescom in germany says pretty much how its going to end...  this is the line to play the games....
 
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IF that's true ( and you know,  there's no line on the inside) Battlefield 3 might outsell  MW3. But that still seems to be only a dream...
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There's still people that give a fuck about this game? *Goes back to watching the latest BF3 trailer for the millionth time...*

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Meh. I'm still passing this one for the moment and focusing my online FPSing to Battlefield 3...

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I was born in the VA, not sure why this is dedicated to me, but i'll take it.

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too little, too late

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@TooWalrus said:

@Tumbler said:

Meh, not buying this at launch. Add all the features and cool stuff you want, I'm going to wait and see what the finished product looks and plays like before I spend any money.

...do you really not know what the next call of duty is going to look and play like?

Not exactly...no. I'm willing to spend some time playing the game but no money until I am confident exactly what I'm getting. I liked MW a lot, but all the titles since then have been a little different and seem to miss the mark in my opinion. I've purchased MW, MW2, and Blops at launch...just not willing to give them anything this time around. I'm sure someone will buy the game new and hate it, then trade it to me so I can try it. (Thanx Goozex!)

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Already pre-ordered on consoles but good news either way. Now that all those boy cotters are on board I bet this series will continue to break sales records.

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Something, something, Battlefield 3, something, something.

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This will be the first COD i don't buy, If Gears 3 wasn't coming out this year i would definitely buy this i'm probably just going to get Gears 3, Batman, and Assassins Creed year.