Call of Duty Black Ops 2

Release date: November 13, 2012

Surprise of the CENTURY!

I'm waiting till Black Ops 17 comes out.

I don't understand why people not related to the game leak stuff early.

They gain nothing from it...

It was to be expected but if the campaigns as crazy and the multiplayer as fun count me in.

Hahahaha, can't wait for their big reveal.

Bl2ps

*yawn*

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

@Deathmachine117 said:

It was to be expected but if the campaigns as crazy and the multiplayer as fun count me in.

Although you could see that twist coming like a galaxy away I thought the story itself and use of licensed music awesome. Also I think the first Call of Duty game in a while where I more or less understood the plot.

It will suck.

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

Did you make an account just to leak this to us? You are too kind sir 
 
You guys like call of duty?

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

Not really comparable. But, nevertheless, we discuss whatever we want, provided it falls within the boundaries that make sense for a video game forum.

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

People do discuss FIFA, and why do you care what people talk about?

edit: lol @ dudebro

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

It's more of a cultural phenomenon than FIFA. Regardless of people's opinions about it, every game since Modern Warfare 2 (before that?) has sold more copies than the previous entry.

You ruined the announcement; next time please use the spoiler tag, k.

Yep.

Hey, it's Black Ops II, not Black Ops 2. Get your facts straight, son.

@FreakAche said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

Not really comparable. But, nevertheless, we discuss whatever we want, provided it falls within the boundaries that make sense for a video game forum.

Yeah, I'm not talking about rules or what's appropriate for these forums or anything of the kind. What I asked was, we don't discuss FIFA, the yearly dudebro sports fix everyone needs. Why do we discuss the yearly dudebro shooting sport game?

I'm excited. Fuck the haters.

Maaaaan, I was really hoping they at the very least didn't just call it Black Ops 2, but oh well. Here's to them actually caring 'n all that. Lots call Treyarch the off year, but at least it feels like they put effort into their CoD games as opposed to MW3 and it's cursed coasting.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@FreakAche said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

Not really comparable. But, nevertheless, we discuss whatever we want, provided it falls within the boundaries that make sense for a video game forum.

Yeah, I'm not talking about rules or what's appropriate for these forums or anything of the kind. What I asked was, we don't discuss FIFA, the yearly dudebro sports fix everyone needs. Why do we discuss the yearly dudebro shooting sport game?

Gaming is a vast hobby that deals with a wide variety of tastes and preferences. I don't see any reasoning behind dismissing someone else's preferences by labeling something as "for dudebros".

"why do people talk about things"

You need to be pretty oblivious to not have figured out this is what Treyarch is announcing on May 1st.

@AhmadMetallic said:

Regardless of my opinion of these games and whether I consider them dudebro material or not, no one has answer my question yet. We here on Giantbomb rarely discuss the yearly "hot fix" games that are top sellers and considered light e-sport titles. Call of Duty is one of those games. A yearly virtual sport title where you shoot others instead of shooting a ball. Why, unlike the rest of those games, does it get discussed? The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Because it's far more popular, and I don't mean that in some kind of stupid elitist sort of way.

Think of it this way: Let's say that FIFA sells a million copies and that ten percent of people don't like it. Let's say that Call of Duty sells 100 million copies (just saying!) and ten percent of people don't like it. Which group of ten percent is bigger?

FIFA gets less hate because it doesn't sell as much.

The reasons why individuals hate it so much range from just plain not liking shooters to disliking the fact that people can call themselves gamers without delving into video games any farther than a given year's hits.

"why do people talk about certain things"

@AhmadMetallic said:

Regardless of my opinion of these games and whether I consider them dudebro material or not, no one has answer my question yet. We here on Giantbomb rarely discuss the yearly "hot fix" games that are top sellers and considered light e-sport titles. Call of Duty is one of those games. A yearly virtual sport title where you shoot others instead of shooting a ball. Why, unlike the rest of those games, does it get discussed? The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Because it's far more popular, and I don't mean that in some kind of stupid elitist sort of way.

Think of it this way: Let's say that FIFA sells a million copies and that ten percent of people don't like it. Let's say that Call of Duty sells 100 million copies (just saying!) and ten percent of people don't like it. Which group of ten percent is bigger?

FIFA gets less hate because it doesn't sell as much.

The reasons why individuals hate it so much range from just plain not liking shooters to disliking the fact that people can call themselves gamers without delving into video games any farther than a given year's hits.

@believer258 said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

Regardless of my opinion of these games and whether I consider them dudebro material or not, no one has answer my question yet. We here on Giantbomb rarely discuss the yearly "hot fix" games that are top sellers and considered light e-sport titles. Call of Duty is one of those games. A yearly virtual sport title where you shoot others instead of shooting a ball. Why, unlike the rest of those games, does it get discussed? The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Because it's far more popular, and I don't mean that in some kind of stupid elitist sort of way.

Think of it this way: Let's say that FIFA sells a million copies and that ten percent of people don't like it. Let's say that Call of Duty sells 100 million copies (just saying!) and ten percent of people don't like it. Which group of ten percent is bigger?

FIFA gets less hate because it doesn't sell as much.

The reasons why individuals hate it so much range from just plain not liking shooters to disliking the fact that people can call themselves gamers without delving into video games any farther than a given year's hits.

Yeah, all of that's super true and also Call of Duty involves shooting dudes, which everyone can get behind and have a blast with. Sports games aren't as straight forward or widely appealing, since it's not like everyone loves every sport. CoD's much more straight forward, easier to get fun out of, and still has a single player campaign with an over the top Micheal Bayish story.

The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Let me save you the fascination, amigo. Everyone's responding like this because you're dismissing an incredibly popular franchise that most people adore as something that's below you and tagging it as "dudebro" implying that an intellectual can't enjoy it or something. If you want good answers then get off the pedestal and ask the question straight leaving out the elitism.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@PeasantAbuse said:

"why do people talk about certain things"

Fixed!

You bastard...

Shocker.

@FreakAche said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@FreakAche said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

Not really comparable. But, nevertheless, we discuss whatever we want, provided it falls within the boundaries that make sense for a video game forum.

Yeah, I'm not talking about rules or what's appropriate for these forums or anything of the kind. What I asked was, we don't discuss FIFA, the yearly dudebro sports fix everyone needs. Why do we discuss the yearly dudebro shooting sport game?

Gaming is a vast hobby that deals with a wide variety of tastes and preferences. I don't see any reasoning behind dismissing someone else's preferences by labeling something as "for dudebros".

Regardless of my opinion of these games and whether I consider them dudebro material or not, no one has answer my question yet. We here on Giantbomb rarely discuss the yearly "hot fix" games that are top sellers and considered light e-sport titles. Call of Duty is one of those games. A yearly virtual sport title where you shoot others instead of shooting a ball. Why, unlike the rest of those games, does it get discussed?  The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it? 

@UnrealDP said:

@believer258 said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

Regardless of my opinion of these games and whether I consider them dudebro material or not, no one has answer my question yet. We here on Giantbomb rarely discuss the yearly "hot fix" games that are top sellers and considered light e-sport titles. Call of Duty is one of those games. A yearly virtual sport title where you shoot others instead of shooting a ball. Why, unlike the rest of those games, does it get discussed? The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Because it's far more popular, and I don't mean that in some kind of stupid elitist sort of way.

Think of it this way: Let's say that FIFA sells a million copies and that ten percent of people don't like it. Let's say that Call of Duty sells 100 million copies (just saying!) and ten percent of people don't like it. Which group of ten percent is bigger?

FIFA gets less hate because it doesn't sell as much.

The reasons why individuals hate it so much range from just plain not liking shooters to disliking the fact that people can call themselves gamers without delving into video games any farther than a given year's hits.

Yeah, all of that's super true and also Call of Duty involves shooting dudes, which everyone can get behind and have a blast with. Sports games aren't as straight forward or widely appealing, since it's not like everyone loves every sport. CoD's much more straight forward, easier to get fun out of, and still has a single player campaign with an over the top Micheal Bayish story.

The fact that no one can see that I'm simply wondering out of curiosity is fascinating. Every post and question has to have some kind of hidden intention behind it, doesn't it?

Let me save you the fascination, amigo. Everyone's responding like this because you're dismissing an incredibly popular franchise that most people adore as something that's below you and tagging it as "dudebro" implying that an intellectual can't enjoy it or something. If you want good answers then get off the pedestal and ask the question straight leaving out the elitism.

AhmadMetallic struck me as kind of elitist at first as well but I don't quite think that now. I think he's just lamenting that the PC's strengths aren't as overt as they once were because it's being adapted to consoles.

Oh, and "dudebro" doesn't necessarily imply that an intellectual can't enjoy it. It implies that the game's entertainment lies more in its simplicity than its depths

WORLD EXCLUSIVE!! :P

@believer258 said:

AhmadMetallic struck me as kind of elitist at first as well but I don't quite think that now. I think he's just lamenting that the PC's strengths aren't as overt as they once were because it's being adapted to consoles.

Well, he definitely shows it by acting like one, but oh well, I guess.

Oh, and "dudebro" doesn't necessarily imply that an intellectual can't enjoy it. It implies that the game's entertainment lies more in its simplicity than its depths

Yeah, I get that, but since it's depth lies in it's simplicity it implies that it's not meant for intellectuals. Saying that it implies they can't enjoy it goes a bit far for the tag itself, but coupled with the attitude it seemed appropriate, but I see what you're saying.

BIIack Ops

Is it in space?

Okay people start placing bets on wheather or not they use a new engine or they stick with the MW2 graphics. I personally want to see Treyarc's take on the quake engine but I won't be surprised if they stick with IW4...

Vegas puts the odds at 100,000 to 1 on a new engine.

@UnrealDP said:

@believer258 said:

AhmadMetallic struck me as kind of elitist at first as well but I don't quite think that now. I think he's just lamenting that the PC's strengths aren't as overt as they once were because it's being adapted to consoles.

Well, he definitely shows it by acting like one, but oh well, I guess.

Oh, and "dudebro" doesn't necessarily imply that an intellectual can't enjoy it. It implies that the game's entertainment lies more in its simplicity than its depths

Yeah, I get that, but since it's depth lies in it's simplicity it implies that it's not meant for intellectuals. Saying that it implies they can't enjoy it goes a bit far for the tag itself, but coupled with the attitude it seemed appropriate, but I see what you're saying.

Its depth does not lie in its simplicity. Its entertainment does. Two different things. And if I remember correctly you are the one that originally said that "dudebro" implies intellectuals can't enjoy it.

Anyway

This is a CoD thread already gone too far and I don't plan on commenting anymore.

@believer258: Dude, I know. I was saying I was wrong, not you, mate. That's why I was saying the lack of depth discouraged intellectuals and that they can still enjoy it which is why can't was going too far, but in the ... Yeah, never mind. I feel like we've been having two different conversations and this totally has gone too far for a thread about CoD.

I'll take more zombies. Don't care much about the rest.

@AjayRaz said:

BIIack Ops

Fuuuuuuuuck...

Great another mediocre FPS.

@AhmadMetallic said:

We don't discuss FIFA, why do we discuss COD?

I discuss FIFA sometimes

CALL OF DUTY: NEW FONT TREATMENT

Don't you mean Call of Duty: Black Ops II?

I'm pretty pumped. I didn't get in to MW3 as much as I thought I would. I think I preferred the weapons in Black Ops and the single player in general was much cooler.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1224082p1.html

A future setting has me excited. The Black Ops campaign was probably my favourite since COD4 so I hope they bring the same non stop action in this.

Future CoD I'm not sold on but Future Zombies could be great! Maybe they can do something crazy like this...

Is...this real?