Underrated game. Not as good as Deus Ex, but the atmoshpere was fucking great, the weapons were great (especially the hidden ones, like the Dragon Tooth Sword, the Hellfire Bolcaster, etc,) characters were great (doesn't get any cooler than the Omar,) and it had decent pacing.

I remember when this game first came out... I went in with suspended expectations and I told myself I wouldn't draw any comparisons to the original other than the obvious ones.... and I came away wanting to play it again.

i thought it was cool too

i thought it was so awesome... in every way. especially the story and the atmosphere. and the do what ou want and side quests and various ways to do things.

I loved the music and it turned me onto KidneyThieves, which I still listen to from time to time. While it's not the original in terms of mind blowing gameplay for the time, it still holds up like Deus Ex does. Both games in my mind are different yet equally fun. I really enjoyed the sequel as much as I did the original, for different aspects. It's not like when the sequel came out we couldn't go back and play the first one anymore, which seems to me how some people reacted upon it's release. Both certainly had really enjoyable complimenting stories that you can't truly appreciate untill you've finished both.

I wound up playing it on the Xbox not too long back after renting it and though I didn't get to play it as much as I'd have liked it didn't seem bad by any stretch of the imagination.
Pretty sure I saw it on Steam so I'll probably have to buy it at some point so I can actually finish it.

Not awful, as a sequel to the original it falls way, way short.

I agree, I loved it. But my file was deleted on the last level and I never got to finish the epic adventure. I still liked it a lot, though. I'm hoping Deus Ex 3 will be even better. If it is actually real and not vaporware.

I think people gave the game a hard time because of the original which isn't really fair. I enjoyed Invisible War; it wasn't as good as the original, but it was in no way a horrible game. I am really hoping Deus Ex 3 will be great, but I am really worried especially with the absence of Warren Spector.

i take it from these comments it definately worth playing then?  I played the original and thought it was awesome aswell.  For some reason i never got round to Invisible War.

"i take it from these comments it definately worth playing then?  I played the original and thought it was awesome aswell.  For some reason i never got round to Invisible War."

I'm in the minority that thought this game was better than Deus Ex 1.  Being someone who doesn't care for game stories, and judging it solely on gameplay, the streamlining of the combat & improving the hit detection so it's not so much stat based (and instead making the character developments active & passive skills) made it a much more fun game, in my opinion.  There's so many solutions to each scenario depending on how you deck out your character...tons of replayability.

My only beefs with it are that it's so short, and that the code for the PC optimization is horrendous.  The game runs at about 5 fps on my band new dual core machine with 2gb ram, and I can't for the life of me figure out why.

Better than DX1? No... just, no. Not in any conceivable way. Except graphics, dur.

<3 you, but egads, man.

Playing it for the first time today will definitely be visually rough. It's definite improvement graphically over the original Deus Ex (especially in the  lighting department,) but it's a far cry from the visual quality of current games.

"Better than DX1? No... just, no. Not in any conceivable way. Except graphics, dur.

<3 you, but egads, man."

"Graphics, voice acting, dialogue, gameplay, level design, difficulty balancing, all of it's better in DX2.

Granted, I played DX2 before I played DX1 so my perception is probably a lot different from everyone who went into DX2 with a specific set of expectations. "

I probably would feel the same had I played Invisible War first.

That's the strange thing about video games. Had I played Twilight Princess before Ocarina, rather than a decade later, it wouldn't be a contest in my mind, yet TP had nowhere near the impact that Ocarina had on me upon its release.

The original Deus Ex just seemed to capture a moment in time, for me at least. The gaming world, unlike any other medium, moves lightning fast though - so by the time DX2  was released it had long since been left behind. A small handful of years can make an enormous difference. People always look at past games through a silly nostalgic lens, remembering them in an almost supernatural light - games like Invisible War are always given an unfair shake because of the goofy lens. I can go back and play Ocarina, Invisible War, SS2, etc. today and enjoy them like a motherfucker but a large part of the enjoyment is subconsciously reliving the moments in time they captured when originally playing them, like a little nostaligc bitch.

Year 2,000 Deus Ex was better, for me at least, than year 2003 Invisible War. Had I played both at the same time I'd probably feel differently.

Pretty much.  Games are evolving so fast that playing older ones feels almost like watching a black & white silent film right when technicolor became popular.  Interesting from a historical perspective, but not so great when compared to how far the medium has become.

I'm always wondering what kids today growing up on Halo & Call of Duty think if they play Duke3d or MM9 on XBLA.  I can imagine them sitting there with a blank stare thinking "This was fun back then?"

"I'm always wondering what kids today growing up on Halo & Call of Duty think if they play Duke3d or MM9 on XBLA.  I can imagine them sitting there with a blank stare thinking "This was fun back then?""

"Vaxadrin said:

"Graphics, voice acting, dialogue, gameplay, level design, difficulty balancing, all of it's better in DX2.

Granted, I played DX2 before I played DX1 so my perception is probably a lot different from everyone who went into DX2 with a specific set of expectations. "

I probably would feel the same had I played Invisible War first.

That's the strange thing about video games. Had I played Twilight Princess before Ocarina, rather than a decade later, it wouldn't be a contest in my mind, yet TP had nowhere near the impact that Ocarina had on me upon its release.

"

"BiffMcBlumpkin said:

"Vaxadrin said:

"Graphics, voice acting, dialogue, gameplay, level design, difficulty balancing, all of it's better in DX2.

Granted, I played DX2 before I played DX1 so my perception is probably a lot different from everyone who went into DX2 with a specific set of expectations. "

I probably would feel the same had I played Invisible War first.

That's the strange thing about video games. Had I played Twilight Princess before Ocarina, rather than a decade later, it wouldn't be a contest in my mind, yet TP had nowhere near the impact that Ocarina had on me upon its release.

"

No offense, but I just realised nostalgia goggles apparently do exist."

From now on I'm gonna role play the serious one and you play the fun-loving carefree one, ok Biff?

Cats can't talk.

You're not training them right.

"From now on I'm gonna role play the serious one and you play the fun-loving carefree one, ok Biff?"

"From now on I'm gonna role play the serious one "

This is no time for jokes guys.  We're talking about game design in Deus Ex and how the second one was underrated due to rose-tinted glasses.

Young Elton John has no relevance to Deus Ex 2.  Stay on topic, guys.

Young Bernie Taupin is cuter than Ashton Kutcher!

Biff, seriously, this is no time for joking around.  I'm trying to have a focused, intelligent discussion here and you're just posting whatever you want.

Vinny is probably going to find this thread and lock it soon, I know for a fact he searches the forum for "Ashton Kutcher" on an hourly basis. It's a bit of an early autumn bromance.  

You can't just go inventing words like bromance!  There's a sufficient, already defined nomenclature in place in Webster's Dictionary.  I suggest reading the latest edition.  I can lend you one if you want, I have 5.

"You can't just go inventing words like bromance!."

You and your silly Photoshops.  Why don't you grow up and get a job like the rest of us?  Put on a suit & tie and stop playing all those "video gamings".

Being the carefree Balki type is really hard. I feel like I'm dying inside. I quit, I'm packing up my shit and going the fuck back to Meepos (which in my case is the hamburger forum) where people know the real me.

Hopefully Deus Ex 3 will be at least as good as the original, even with Eidos Montreal behind it.

"Being the carefree Balki type is really hard. I feel like I'm dying inside. I quit, I'm packing up my shit and going the fuck back to Meepos (which in my case is the hamburger forum) where people know the real me."

How did this thread turn into some bromance thing?

"BiffMcBlumpkin said:

"Being the carefree Balki type is really hard. I feel like I'm dying inside. I quit, I'm packing up my shit and going the fuck back to Meepos (which in my case is the hamburger forum) where people know the real me."

That board is dead, now.  All the threads that don't mention lettuce got locked."

"How did this thread turn into some bromance thing?"

"Vaxadrin said:

"Graphics, voice acting, dialogue, gameplay, level design, difficulty balancing, all of it's better in DX2.

Granted, I played DX2 before I played DX1 so my perception is probably a lot different from everyone who went into DX2 with a specific set of expectations. "

I probably would feel the same had I played Invisible War first.

That's the strange thing about video games. Had I played Twilight Princess before Ocarina, rather than a decade later, it wouldn't be a contest in my mind, yet TP had nowhere near the impact that Ocarina had on me upon its release.

The original Deus Ex just seemed to capture a moment in time, for me at least. The gaming world, unlike any other medium, moves lightning fast though - so by the time DX2  was released it had long since been left behind. A small handful of years can make an enormous difference. People always look at past games through a silly nostalgic lens, remembering them in an almost supernatural light - games like Invisible War are always given an unfair shake because of the goofy lens. I can go back and play Ocarina, Invisible War, SS2, etc. today and enjoy them like a motherfucker but a large part of the enjoyment is subconsciously reliving the moments in time they captured when originally playing them, like a little nostaligc bitch.

Year 2,000 Deus Ex was better, for me at least, than year 2003 Invisible War. Had I played both at the same time I'd probably feel differently.

 

"

this thread took a major turn since i left!  i just laughed my ass off for the last 20 posts or so. 

....anyway guys;  i think i will pick up deus ex: invisible war to give it a go.  I havent been finding playing older* games on the pc too much of a struggle due to their lack of graphical quality so i should hopefully enjoy it if all said is true.

*diablo II, Half life, Max Payne etc.

I've been replaying this game again, for the 500th time, in the past week or so.

It blows my mind, there's something about the atmosphere of this game that fucking compels me to enjoy it. Something about the the way it looks and sounds...  I love it. It definitely isn't nostalgia, it's too new and there was nothing going on with me when I first played it - no time and place for me to attach it to, so I don't know what it is.
 
I played and loved the 1st when it came out, and I can understand why I should hate this game in comparison... but when I play it, holy shit. It's nutty.