So I might be completely wrong, but it seems to me that each major country (and associated races) have speech and in some cases cultural similarities to modern nations. Fereldan / Free Marches = Britain, Antiva = Italy, Orlais = France, Elves = Druidic Irish, Dwarves = America. So who would be the Qunari equivalent?
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" So I might be completely wrong, but it seems to me that each major country (and associated races) have speech and in some cases cultural similarities to modern nations. Fereldan / Free Marches = Britain, Antiva = Italy, Orlais = France, Elves = Druidic Irish, Dwarves = America. So who would be the Qunari equivalent? "Welcome to a year ago
Antiva is Spain, and Rivain and the Qunari nation is Al-Andalus
" I believe the Qunari were meant to quite blatantly be an analogue to militant Islam, so perhaps Iraq? Afghanistan? Take your pick. "the qunari don't believe in any god, so there really is no analogue for them.
" @perfectchaos57: dwarves don't believe in freedom of self-determination, socio-economic mobility or democracy. so, they're kind of the opposite of america. "True, those were beliefs of America. However, they're not exactly true today. Social mobility is becoming increasingly difficult, most people are neither "free" or "self-determining" as they are bound by personal responsibility, (similarly represented by dwarven caste?) and we're more a conformist-consumer nation than democratic.
It's not about belief in a god." @punkxblaze said:
" I believe the Qunari were meant to quite blatantly be an analogue to militant Islam, so perhaps Iraq? Afghanistan? Take your pick. "the qunari don't believe in any god, so there really is no analogue for them. "
It's about belief period.
The blind/pure conviction of their belief and a pre determined social order, as well as strict aherence to the set way of life: Qun/Quran
" @npeterson08: Social mobility is always tough, it's easier today and in the western world than it ever was though. Plus, Americans still hold all those things as ideals, whether or not they've achieved them is beside the point. "Social mobility was easier in the early 1900's and has been declining ever since the 1970's. I'm positive most Americans hold democracy in high regard, but it's easier said than done. When it comes to truly being democratic; acting upon fair ethics, morals and values in one's own personal life, most people will argue indignantly that they're at a disadvantage. They see themselves as the victim of society, which constantly encourages them to take personal responsibility for their actions. This prompts them to take no action at all - "those better-off will take my place to uphold democracy."
" @npeterson08: You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Your ass seems to though. "It's pretty basic stuff. Sorry you don't follow.
Exactly, the 30's! "The Great Depression." Did you know we're currently we're living in "The Great Recession" ? Job industries are declining due to global outsourcing, the economy is terrible (due to many things), and continued racism, cultural constraints, and demonization of the Middle-East proves that our society hasn't changed much - if at all in the last 80-odd years. True, the economy was much worse during the Great Depression, but America was still in a position to recover by investing in manufacturing jobs. These manufacturing jobs provided great opportunities for the working-class to elevate their socio-economic status by working up the ladder, becoming managers, CEO's, and eventually business owners - without the necessity of higher education. Clearly, modern America is not in the same position - but we're facing almostidentical hardships. Specifically during the 1970's, a decline in the real-wage started a trend where the working-class' minimum wage slowed while allowing for economic inflation to continue increasing steadily. Essentially, the decline of the real-wage coupled with America's dependency on outsourced manufacturing is keeping us socially immobile." @npeterson08: riiiiiiiight. I'm an idiot, so please explain to me why it was easier to improve you standing in the 30's, with less job industries, a shitty economy, and crippling cultural constraints? "
Hope that helps!
P.S., I'm not trying to argue or be rude with you; truly!
- The Qunari have been nicknamed “militant Islamic Borg” by Lead Writer David Gaider. Gaider later clarified that he meant this as reference to the Qunari's relationship with the other nations of Thedas, not to the specific tenets of Islam.
- The Qunari are quite likely based partially on the Ottoman Empire and Seljuk Turks, as they are mortal enemies of the Tevinter Imperium, the latter of which has been equated to the Byzantine empire. They possess advanced technology including cannons, are considered heathens by the Chantry and have been the target of multiple Exalted Marches, the Chantry's equivalent to a Christian Crusade.
- David Gaider has said that Qunari architecture is influenced by Mayan architecture.
- When a female Qunari is turned into a Broodmother by darkspawn, she produces Ogres.
- The structure of Qunari society is identical to that of the ideal community outlined in Plato's Republic, which divides the population into Producers (farmers, artisans, laborers, etc.), Auxiliaries (warriors), and Guardians (rulers). In The Republic, Plato (through the voice of the protagonist Socrates) also draws somewhat upon the warrior culture of ancient Sparta when designing the "Auxiliary" class of citizens.
- There are no female Qunari in either Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age II. This is likely due to the Qunari belief that women cannot be warriors.
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America isn't losing it's territorial domain little by little like the dwarves seem to be losing cities... Also, yes social mobility is a major factor in the american way. The rest is all plausible, but I think your trying to interpret things that just aren't really there. When you make a fantasy world It's impossible to make a nation/faction that doesn't resemble some other nation, since there are 200 (or about) real life nations out there (not to mention old empires and extinct nations) and you've got to make them appear coherent in their beliefs and political systems.
I think you have to put your mind back into the Medieval Ages. As other people have said the Qunari are the Ottoman Empire, while the Tevinter Imperium is the Byzantive Empire. The Anderfels would be the Holy Roman Empire.
I dont really see what the elves would be and to be honest I think when they first came up with this world it was deffinutly just generic fantisy and then a little bit of stuff was added to make it seem more deep.
Ferelden = Britain
Orlais = France
Antiva = Spain/Italy
Tevinter = Byzantive Empire
Anderfels = Holy Roman
Qunari = Communist States (considering your role in the Qun is picked from birth, all males must do military service and its ruled by a Triumvirate)
And yes, I agree, Dwarves = America
" @perfectchaos57 said:More like 3 years ago..." So I might be completely wrong, but it seems to me that each major country (and associated races) have speech and in some cases cultural similarities to modern nations. Fereldan / Free Marches = Britain, Antiva = Italy, Orlais = France, Elves = Druidic Irish, Dwarves = America. So who would be the Qunari equivalent? "Welcome to a year ago "
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