So here is how this happened:
I wanted to play games on my DS. My daughter magically lost my Super Mario Bros DS cart at my Dad's house (or more specifically: Somewhere in this plane of existence). I didn't really want to play Scribblenauts, because it's kind of fucking shitty to control. So I heard that Super ScribbleNauts fixed this, and I heard the Layton games are also pretty good. So I ordered Layton and the Unwound Future (or whatever the hell it's called) and Super Scribblenauts. Put in Layton, was amazing. Showed my Wife, she said "Oh I can play this too." About 6 hours of the wife playing my DS later, I said "You know what, I'll just roll over to Walmart and buy you a DS, they're like $100 there." DS bought, the first thing wife wants to play is Layton. I pop in Super ScribbleNauts. Sure it controls better, but still, Layton is so much better. My inner racist takes over and I decide its that Layton is made by a bunch of Japanese dudes that make it so much better. I walk into hell (gamestop) and buy a game called "Dragon Quest VI." It looks interesting to say the least. Also at the same time I order Curious Village and Diabolical Box off Amazon so my wife (and later I, after she's 100%'ed the puzzles in EACH game) can play them.
Finally, all is well and I pop in this ancient JRPG, expecting the worse (I think JRPG's and turn-based RPG combat are so stupid). I start playing the game, and after I get pretty tough and crazy shit starts happening (you time travel in a dream, you're in a dream of a dream of the real world, that's also really a dream, what?) I'M FUCKING SUCKED IN.
Are all JRPG's made equal? Seriously guys, where do I go next? I kinda thought these games were shite, but I am totally loving this game, loving the difficulty of combat, loving the ramdom encounters, and loving the totally off the rails story. It's not the greatest story, but it's off the rails crazy. I mean, in the real world my character is a manifestation of the dream of a real world character, who looks like but not exactly like, me. And my job is to find the real me and conjoin the real and the dream me. That's Insane.
Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation
Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Dec 09, 1995
Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation is the last in the Zenithia Trilogy of Dragon Quest remakes for the Nintendo DS. This was the first time in little over 15 years that Dragon Quest VI has made it to the United States in any form from the original Japanese SC.
Ok why didn't you guys tell me this already, I mean seriously?
So here is how this happened:
I wanted to play games on my DS. My daughter magically lost my Super Mario Bros DS cart at my Dad's house (or more specifically: Somewhere in this plane of existence). I didn't really want to play Scribblenauts, because it's kind of fucking shitty to control. So I heard that Super ScribbleNauts fixed this, and I heard the Layton games are also pretty good. So I ordered Layton and the Unwound Future (or whatever the hell it's called) and Super Scribblenauts. Put in Layton, was amazing. Showed my Wife, she said "Oh I can play this too." About 6 hours of the wife playing my DS later, I said "You know what, I'll just roll over to Walmart and buy you a DS, they're like $100 there." DS bought, the first thing wife wants to play is Layton. I pop in Super ScribbleNauts. Sure it controls better, but still, Layton is so much better. My inner racist takes over and I decide its that Layton is made by a bunch of Japanese dudes that make it so much better. I walk into hell (gamestop) and buy a game called "Dragon Quest VI." It looks interesting to say the least. Also at the same time I order Curious Village and Diabolical Box off Amazon so my wife (and later I, after she's 100%'ed the puzzles in EACH game) can play them.
Finally, all is well and I pop in this ancient JRPG, expecting the worse (I think JRPG's and turn-based RPG combat are so stupid). I start playing the game, and after I get pretty tough and crazy shit starts happening (you time travel in a dream, you're in a dream of a dream of the real world, that's also really a dream, what?) I'M FUCKING SUCKED IN.
Are all JRPG's made equal? Seriously guys, where do I go next? I kinda thought these games were shite, but I am totally loving this game, loving the difficulty of combat, loving the ramdom encounters, and loving the totally off the rails story. It's not the greatest story, but it's off the rails crazy. I mean, in the real world my character is a manifestation of the dream of a real world character, who looks like but not exactly like, me. And my job is to find the real me and conjoin the real and the dream me. That's Insane.
I'm a big fan of the Dragon Quest franchise. The battle systems are pretty much the same in all games, but I find that comforting. I haven't played VI yet, but I've played IV and V and Dragon Quest V Hand of the Heavenly Bride is one of my all-time favorites. DQV starts as a child and then you eventually become an adult later on. There's also some generational aspects to the game play. Dragon Quest IX is good too but it sacrifices some of the unique personalities the party members have for player customization. I love it too but it's a somewhat different game in that respect. In that game you create your whole party and they can be any of 4 then 8 classes. Since the game wouldn't know ahead of time what people you'll role with, they can't give them fun comments and such like in the earlier DS DQs. Well, there is a chatty fairy, but she's an NPC.
@PenguinDust: Ok so IV and V are good? Hearing that IX doesn't (or does, I'm not sure?) have random encounters kinda sours me. The generational part of V sounds kind-of awesome. Maybe backwards is where I go next.
Also what are I-III called in the US and for what platforms are they easiest to get for?
@mfpantst said:
@believer258: Ok so I forgot a key detail: watching the Chrono Trigger ER also piqued my interest. However, Chrono Trigger was not available at a good price on Amazon. Of course, the Irony is that I spend about $40 on my DQ VI copy... Which is alot I think(?)
That does sound like a lot for a DS game.
Anyway, Chrono Trigger can be played on an emulator and TV A-OK. I bought the DS version because I needed something to play on my DS.
I think you'll make a pretty good Dragon Quest fan then, as 6 is one of the weakest of the bunch. I'd really recommend trying 5 next, although the story is more straightforward. Don't pay more than $20 for the DS Chrono Trigger, prices have come down a lot on some of these games.
Instead of battles happening randomly on the world map or in a dungeon you start combat by running into a visible enemy.
Hearing that IX doesn't (or does, I'm not sure?) have random encounters kinda sours me.
DQIX is a good game, though you play as a silent party, so the story plays out somewhat different to 6.
Really? Dragon Quest VI impressed you that much? It's good, but there are better Dragon Quest games. Go out and get IV; it seems like the next logical step, given how the stories play out.
Depends on the JRPG, doesn't it? I'd heartily recommend Lufia II or Radiant Historia, but I'd be a terrible person to tell you to play something like Secret of the Stars or The 7th Saga.
As someone else who isn't a big fan of JRPG's, I'd definitely recommend the rest of the Dragon Quest games. There's a charm to their simplicity that really makes them work.
IV and V are definitely better than VI, but I understand they've become pretty rare these days, so you might have some trouble tracking them down.
IX does do away with the random battles (though being able to see enemies on the overworld is an improvement, in my opinion). The bigger problem is the fact the characters you control are completely player made, meaning none of them have any dialogue or personalities. They did this to play up the multiplayer features and it definitely hurts the game.. but it's still solid enough to be worth a go.
I bought the DS version of DQ5 because I had heard people praising it and it was one of the highest rated DQ games, but I've not played much and what I've played it's been noting special.
I have DQ8 on PS2 but barely played it I used to have DQ7 on PS1 because I thought it would be like FF7 but it felt like playing a NES game or something compared to FF7.
Are all JRPG's made equal? Seriously guys, where do I go next? I kinda thought these games were shite, but I am totally loving this game, loving the difficulty of combat, loving the ramdom encounters, and loving the totally off the rails story.Here's the thing. JRPGs are not some magical genre that is any different from other video games. For example, do you like shooters? I don't know you but lets pretend you like shooters for a minute. Would you say there are bad shooters and really amazing shooters? I'd assume a resounding "yes" would be your answer. Well, guess what?! JRPGs work the same way! There are a lot of really great ones out there and plenty of ones you shouldn't play.
As much as I want to suggest tons of different stuff like personal favorites I won't bother, you should go and play games and form your own opinions. I will say though if you think the combat is a lot of fun in DQ you're in for a mind blowing experience once you move past the very simplistic turn based stuff DQ has to offer. As for your next step, the elephant in the room is always Final Fantasy, long line of highly rated games each one different than the last, you can get earlier games in the series for under $10 and on plenty of different systems. I'd suggest not reading reviews or opinions of nostalgia crazy people and just finding something that looks interesting to you and just playing it. Take the plunge, it's not like it even costs very much cash to dive into the series, just do it.
I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but you might want to look at The World Ends With You, too. It's combat is much different than the DQ games but no less rewarding. In fact, I'd say more although also more tricky since it can take place on both upper and lower screens simultaneously. The setting in modern Japan which is a nice change of pace from the usually sword and sorcery stuff. It's got a lot of style and a good soundtrack, too.
Like everyone else said, there's good and bad and some games somewhere in the middle just as in every other genre. I also liked Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island but it's very much an acquired taste since it's more about running a business than some epic adventure. I liked the game though because the dialogue made me laugh out loud which is rare from a silent DS game.
@SpaceRunaway said:
@mfpantst: I don't want to put you off it, it's still a good game. It's just that the story becomes kind of unfocused after a while. Also 6 was the first DQ to introduce a job system, and the implementation is a little...bumpy. 4-6 constitute a loose spiritual trilogy of sorts, and I think the first two just hold up better. Seriously though, don't stop playing.
What.
Dude, Dragon Quest III featured a job system well before DQVI. And to call Dragon Quest VI the weakest of the bunch in comparison to, say, the original Dragon Quest (in which your party consists of one character and a paper-thin plot) seems just a bit over the top.
@Hailinel said:
@SpaceRunaway said:
@mfpantst: I don't want to put you off it, it's still a good game. It's just that the story becomes kind of unfocused after a while. Also 6 was the first DQ to introduce a job system, and the implementation is a little...bumpy. 4-6 constitute a loose spiritual trilogy of sorts, and I think the first two just hold up better. Seriously though, don't stop playing.What.
Dude, Dragon Quest III featured a job system well before DQVI. And to call Dragon Quest VI the weakest of the bunch in comparison to, say, the original Dragon Quest (in which your party consists of one character and a paper-thin plot) seems just a bit over the top.
I think he meant "of the Zenithia trilogy". If that's the case, I agree with him, even if the job system really makes me not want to do so.
@Video_Game_King said:
@Hailinel said:
@SpaceRunaway said:
@mfpantst: I don't want to put you off it, it's still a good game. It's just that the story becomes kind of unfocused after a while. Also 6 was the first DQ to introduce a job system, and the implementation is a little...bumpy. 4-6 constitute a loose spiritual trilogy of sorts, and I think the first two just hold up better. Seriously though, don't stop playing.What.
Dude, Dragon Quest III featured a job system well before DQVI. And to call Dragon Quest VI the weakest of the bunch in comparison to, say, the original Dragon Quest (in which your party consists of one character and a paper-thin plot) seems just a bit over the top.
I think he meant "of the Zenithia trilogy". If that's the case, I agree with him, even if the job system really makes me not want to do so.
He didn't make that distinction for the job system.
@Hailinel:
But before he even said "the first two hold up better", he mentioned that 4-6 "constitute a loose spiritual trilogy". The context seems kinda clear, even if he was wrong about the job system chronology (or however you'd phrase it).
@Video_Game_King said:
@Hailinel:
But before he even said "the first two hold up better", he mentioned that 4-6 "constitute a loose spiritual trilogy". The context seems kinda clear, even if he was wrong about the job system chronology (or however you'd phrase it).
He specifically said that DQVI was the first to feature a job system before mentioning the trilogy.
@Hailinel:
I'm aware, which is why I said:
@Video_Game_King said:
even if he was wrong about the job system chronology (or however you'd phrase it).
@Video_Game_King:
Sorry, you're right, I didn't make that distinction. I was talking about 4-6, but it's also been so long since I played III (on the GBC), that time has taken its toll, and I totally forgot that.
So, both you guys are right, thank you for spending so much time talking about me. Everybody wins.
OH MY GOD, MY POOR INBOX.
No, siri, thanks guys for not being dicks about me probably having no taste, and liking something you guys seem to see as the CoD (is that analogy right?) of the analagous term, "jrpgs"? Anyways, I think I'll do DQ IV and V next, since they're pretty cheap for the DS right now (hoping those versions aren't shite) Then it's off to play on some elephants and shit.
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