New pages only auto-approve for 5000 point members

This may just be a temporary adjustment but for now only 5000 point users will have their brand new pages (meaning pages that are brand new from scratch) approved automatically. We had to add this in because too many people were adding pages that were already in the system.

seems fair

Somewhat good idea. I never thought it was being that much of a problem however. Hopefully it will be able to go down eventually.

i agree with that decision

Its ok I'm jsut mroe worried as to how they will be able to sort through all submissions in the site.

That makes sense.

"Its ok I'm jsut mroe worried as to how they will be able to sort through all submissions in the site.
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I think it's a really good idea...and I actually wish there was a change in the point system for uploading pics. You get 1 point for adding a pic to a game and 1 point for each gallery it's in. I could upload 500 screenshots for Forza 2 and post them in the Screenshots/X360 Screenshots galleries and get 1500 points from that...I don't know, but I just feel like that could be abused if someone wanted to mess around with pages and needed to get the points first.

okay thats fine..infact I think they should make it permanant

That's actually a pretty good idea.

Gives us all something extra to aim for rather than just 1000. I like personal challenges :P

"chililili said:

"Its ok I'm jsut mroe worried as to how they will be able to sort through all submissions in the site.
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Me too, but our team has some nifty ideas that don't involve Jeff & the crew slaving away all day (the current solution).

Thanks for your patience.

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You guys wouldn't have to delete/convert duplicate pages if there was a way to see what is pending (without going to an individual's profile, which could be time consuming) in particular areas. Say I typed in "Iron Man"; if there was no "Iron Man" page, but there was one pending, an indicator would pop up telling me so. Or something like that.

yeh that's good ill get 5000 soon enough hopefully when all my subs are got too :P Keep the good work up

"thats fucking bullshit

I have submitted about 35 things , most of them the first day this site was launched
only 3 of them were answered with an acceptance or a decline 3 DAYS AFTER THEY WERE SUBMITTED


Here is an idea , LOCK submissions , put all your staff on moderating them , and after you get a major chunk knocked out
give users a limit of 5 submissions per day for about a week then increase it to 10 permanantly

and leave shit how it is , we cant even make points with reviews for god sakes


"

"Guiltyspark said:

"thats fucking bullshit

I have submitted about 35 things , most of them the first day this site was launched
only 3 of them were answered with an acceptance or a decline 3 DAYS AFTER THEY WERE SUBMITTED


Here is an idea , LOCK submissions , put all your staff on moderating them , and after you get a major chunk knocked out
give users a limit of 5 submissions per day for about a week then increase it to 10 permanantly

and leave shit how it is , we cant even make points with reviews for god sakes


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Relax man. It's a temp move and only relates to the creation of new pages not wiki edits in general.
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Makes sense I suppose.

snide said:

"This may just be a temporary adjustment but for now only 5000 point users will have their brand new pages (meaning pages that are brand new from scratch) approved automatically. We had to add this in because too many people were adding pages that were already in the system.

Bummer I know, and something we can likely tune back down over time but deleting/merging pages takes up the most man hours, so we're trying to slow down the instances of that happening.

Please read my search / alias post on how to properly check for items that may not show up in our automatic search.

"

Thats fair we dont want this site to get clogged up with 4 Halo 3 three pages for instance.  Good move!

"thats fucking bullshit

I have submitted about 35 things , most of them the first day this site was launched
only 3 of them were answered with an acceptance or a decline 3 DAYS AFTER THEY WERE SUBMITTED


Here is an idea , LOCK submissions , put all your staff on moderating them , and after you get a major chunk knocked out
give users a limit of 5 submissions per day for about a week then increase it to 10 permanantly

and leave shit how it is , we cant even make points with reviews for god sakes


"

Sounds fair enough - I've seen a fair few images from the wrong games slip through somehow too, not sure if this is from 1,000+ users or from accidentally approving submissions.

"thats fucking bullshit

I have submitted about 35 things , most of them the first day this site was launched
only 3 of them were answered with an acceptance or a decline 3 DAYS AFTER THEY WERE SUBMITTED


Here is an idea , LOCK submissions , put all your staff on moderating them , and after you get a major chunk knocked out
give users a limit of 5 submissions per day for about a week then increase it to 10 permanantly

and leave shit how it is , we cant even make points with reviews for god sakes


"

"Guiltyspark said:

"thats fucking bullshit

I have submitted about 35 things , most of them the first day this site was launched
only 3 of them were answered with an acceptance or a decline 3 DAYS AFTER THEY WERE SUBMITTED


Here is an idea , LOCK submissions , put all your staff on moderating them , and after you get a major chunk knocked out
give users a limit of 5 submissions per day for about a week then increase it to 10 permanantly

and leave shit how it is , we cant even make points with reviews for god sakes


"

The fact that there isn't a limit on submissions is what makes this place great for me.

How dare you suggest a limit :|
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So, do you guys plan on keeping this a temporary change? Or are you gonna see how this new points limit plays out for now?
I'm just interested, as someone who's about to cross the first threshold.
You guys definitely picked a good number for the total number of Wiki points needed for Full Live Edit. 5000. 5G
FIVE GRAND!!!!!

Good idea, at least for now.

I'd like to request adding Chaos Wars,  all you have to do is add the game, I'll take care of the rest.

Sounds good.

Using points to determine your moderation status is a good first filter, but I don't think it should be the only one. Once you pass a certain threshold, you should be able to apply for moderation/auto-approval status. I've been thinking about the problem of accepting/denying user generated content for a while, and have developed a few models that range from draconian to 100% democratic. Unfortunately it's java and this site is Python so I don't think it'll gel so well :)

Nonetheless, I think for this site that you need a human element in determining who has what privileges. The gaming community has too many people who, while being very active, often act irresponsibly and without foresight. Giant Bomb needs to ensure these people don't get undue access.

Agreed. If it makes your work easier and subs accepted faster than I'm all for it.

I think if there were problems with multiple submissions, this move only makes sense. New pages are important, at least all  edits still go straight through after 1000.

I'm all for it. Especially since it increases sub times.

There needs to be an option to cancel your submissions before they are approved or rejected. I have seen things I have submitted and now I go to look at the game today and noticed someone already edited it.

I have no problem with it.

Do any non staff members even have over 5000???

That's a good idea.

I agree with Snide, we need to focus on quality and not quanity with alot of this stuff.. I've seen some fairly stupid stuff go through which really had nothing to do with the game. I guess thats why other people can edit stuff also, but that just causes more work for mods/staff.

5000 points sounds good to me.

SWhy_So_Serious said:

"Agreed. If it makes your work easier and subs accepted faster than I'm all for it."

"Do any non staff members even have over 5000???
"

I guess that is fair. 

More people should actually do this including me would've saved me some time possibly.

seems like the only way to go. If someone put in the man hours to get to 5000 points then I think they take the time to see if pages already exist.

I think that this is a good rule.

I knew this was going to happen. I dont know. something about this website is starting to worry me...  I'm sure in like a year things will be different, but in the meantime it seems like they bit off more than they could chew dealing with the general public (i.e.: general public is usually stupid, both literally and figuratively)

sounds fair

I agree, I thought that the 1000 limit for live edit was high, until I saw that you can get points fast (if submission is accepted), putting it up to 5000 for new pages, I like the idea. That means more pages will get completed before we start adding a bunch more.

"Do any non staff members even have over 5000???
"

I think that EVERYTHING should be at 5000 for bypassing moderation. But that's just me.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

"You guys wouldn't have to delete/convert duplicate pages if there was a way to see what is pending (without going to an individual's profile, which could be time consuming) in particular areas. Say I typed in "Iron Man"; if there was no "Iron Man" page, but there was one pending, an indicator would pop up telling me so. Or something like that."

I understand this. A couple of times I have submitting something, and by the time it is looked at, someone else has already had it created. Bit annoying because it looks like I haven't done my research!

Wouldnt call it a bummer, its what needs to be done to make this work.