"Sure, I'll give it a shot. The multiplayer beta was pretty much crap but I'll see if things have improved."
The multiplayer was great. I dunno what you were smoking."
Perhaps "crap" is a bit extreme but it most certainly wasn't great. Hell it was barely OK. The best part about it was the little power ups you'd find but beyond that there was very little that makes the game stand out as a multiplayer game. The two modes were pretty damn boring too. Great team deathmatch and territories. And buildings blow up. Sorta. Well, not really.
"Sure, I'll give it a shot. The multiplayer beta was pretty much crap but I'll see if things have improved."
The multiplayer was great. I dunno what you were smoking."
Perhaps "crap" is a bit extreme but it most certainly wasn't great. Hell it was barely OK. The best part about it was the little power ups you'd find but beyond that there was very little that makes the game stand out as a multiplayer game. The two modes were pretty damn boring too. Great team deathmatch and territories. And buildings blow up. Sorta. Well, not really."
The only things that I would really complain about would be the level design (needed some more thought) and the UI (which was too cluttered). Whatever. Your loss I guess.
God i loved the very first red faction when it first came out - it was incredible, the 2nd was pretty awesome witht he dual wielding etc but the story and hit detection felt a little off, cant wait to try this out
Got the SP demo for preordering at Gamestop. Is it 60fps on 360? It's kind of hard to tell but it seemed very smooth. Still not sure what to think of the game, but I liked what little they sampled. Physics feel very dynamic and noteworthy. Like the gameplay is actually changed significatnly by the physics system, it's not just flash.
After playing now four or five times I'm pretty impressed. It's a lot of fun destroying things and just generally blowing shit up. I smashed the doors off one of those cars with the backs on em and just threw a bunch of mines inside, then I took the car and drove it through a building and just took everything out. Awesome stuff.
My main complaint lies in the lack of terrain defomation. Damnit! That's my main memory of playing the orginal was playing multiplayer with friends and just digging holes in the ground. I want to be able to dig in this game too! :(
"After playing now four or five times I'm pretty impressed. It's a lot of fun destroying things and just generally blowing shit up. I smashed the doors off one of those cars with the backs on em and just threw a bunch of mines inside, then I took the car and drove it through a building and just took everything out. Awesome stuff.My main complaint lies in the lack of terrain defomation. Damnit! That's my main memory of playing the orginal was playing multiplayer with friends and just digging holes in the ground. I want to be able to dig in this game too! :("
That would probably push the engine pretty far and probably reduce framerate by a lot
Thanks for the heads up...I was in the beta and thought it showed potential, but I was always more interested in the SP aspect of the game having loved the original. Downloading now!
Damn that demo was ace. It was really fluid, from the micro-transitions (weapons to explosives, offensive to defensive, stealth to open, etc.) to the bigger ones (run-and-gun infiltration right into giant mech ride into rail shooting segment). And it was really polished and fun throughout. I really enjoyed the multiplayer beta, and according to Volition it's even crazier and better-made now, but this SP demo is great. Seriously.
That would probably push the engine pretty far and probably reduce framerate by a lot"
Tch. Like I care. As far as I'm concerned if I did it in 2001 I should be able to do it now! Logic doesn't enter into it when I'm bitching about nostalgia.
Imagine making a hundred meter hole in the floor and filing it with vechiles putting a mine on the first one then detonating. Youd have a hundred foot crater
Interesting shift to 3rd person - little unsure of that tbh
Sledgehammering stuff around the place was entertaining for a little while, not for long though
AI seemed a bit pap - running into walls etc.
Main Gun didnt seem very satisfying
Controls were clunky
Graphics seemed to need a bit more polish
Story seems to have shifted to a ';just cause' style of rebels and helping and capturing territory etc -hope it fares better than just cause did
Pro's
Seems to be loads to do - lots of stats popping up, kill streaks, bonuses for destroying certain things, check out the buildings with %'s on them, for example, or the giant towers
Vehicles are great, and their presence on the ground is brilliant.
Running into a building,. taking a hammer ot its foundations before strapping explosives around the struts and legging it out the window as they detonate to watch the whole thing fall, crushing the guards who ran in there after you - fucking great/
Humour and dialogue seemed alright
Despite the lack of polish some nice graphical flourishes
Music suited rdama pretty well
And that walker and everything that followed it was fucking amazing
Nice solid frame rate desp[ite the madness
Despite the list of cons there i am now interested in this game (wasn't before) Walking through buildings like they were paper and watching it naturally fall in beleivable ways was a sight to see - of course there needs to be more to the game i guess but i am an easily pleased guy :D
I was unsure right up until that road leading to the walker when loads of jeeps appeared, my fight with those was fairly awesome, and everything from the walker onwards was amazing - i reckon this game will live or die on its scale - if it keeps the scale and epicness high -as it did in the latter half, then this game will be an enjoyable experiance, the engine seems to handle that kind of wanton destruction well, and the smaller contriveed section of the demo just didnt seem to be where this games heart was at, it did not do it any justice.
wait, what? The graphics look pretty good actually. Not awesome, but better than average. Did you play it on the 360 or ps3? "
Tried ps3 and this morning went round a buds who has a 360 and ran through the demo he had, no reald ifferance in quality.
To be fair in referance to graphics needing a polish it was the intro fmv i was talking about -im not sure why but it just didnt feel up to scratch whilst i was watching it - i remember thinking the same thing about red faction 1+2 though - as i put in the +'s -the actual gameplay graphics had some awesome flourishes and the engine handled everything really well
Ive just read on the red faction website forums that buildings that you destroy wont respawn unless there missiony which to me is kind of a dissapontment because i was planning on going to the most well built up area, blowing it all to hell, come back 10 minutes later and repeat.
"Ive just read on the red faction website forums that buildings that you destroy wont respawn unless there missiony which to me is kind of a dissapontment because i was planning on going to the most well built up area, blowing it all to hell, come back 10 minutes later and repeat."
That is an awesome idea -however i am now a little scared of you - if you ever undergo radiation therapy and end up huuuuuuuge in size - im going to be very very worried
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