@chop: nah Jeff says the same thing. Those dudes say a lot of things. They grumble about a lot of games I like its all just opinion. I'd bet there were PC gamers who thought Quake was balls. The idea that early FPS games are somehow superior to games like Goldeneye is a matter of taste. Don't get me wrong i respect those dudes but I don't always agree with them.
Yeah, and you definitely have the cooler headed opinion. I just get frustrated when people talk about these opinions as though they are fact. If someone says they didn't like Halo, then fine. I get it. But when people say Halo didn't do anything unique or that it was a bad game, I get irritated. Some stuff is just empirical, and Goldeneye and Halo empirically did new things for the genre.