GotG: Bastion vs. Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies

Bas

..... wow, wow.... I'm stumped.... really loved DQ9.....

But man Bastion, I replayed that on a chrome browser just to see if it could run. It was worth replaying, and it's so simple to show off to anyone who's a none gamer.

Sentinels of who now?

Given how much I actively disliked Bastion, I have to give DQ my vote despite never playing it. Of course this is Giantbomb so now way does a JRPG beat Bastion.

DQ IX is amazing. But we're on GB and everyone's a fanboy here, so it's got no chance against Bastion.

I actively did not like Bastion and spent like 400 hours in DQIX.

Lol.

Anyways, played both and enjoyed both, but Bastion is probably on my Top 15 of the generation list, and DQIX isn't. Soooo...Bastion.

@amyggen: Prove me wrong. But you can't so nevermind.

Prove you wrong about what? That every person on GB is a fanboy? A Bastion fanboy or a fanboy in general? Either meaning is just a ridiculous statement, so dumb that I don't need to "prove you wrong" because the statement in and of itself is so obviously wrong.

@amyggen: Internet. Hyperbole. Obvious.

Meaning a lot of people here don't know what they like, so they just like what the crew likes to save themselves the time. GB fanboys, not bastion fanboys.

@hailinel's gonna start bashing skulls in once he sees the results.

DQ9 is like game that is being raised to be hunted and eaten by Bastion in this bracket.

@canteu:

Eh, I doubt a lot of people voted Bastion because Jeff liked it or whatever. My guess is that a LOT more users played Bastion than DQ IX (Dragon Quest is pretty obscure in the West, at least compared to "indie darling" Bastion). And maybe some people who played both, like me, actually liked Bastion better? Or maybe I'm just voting Bastion because of dat Giant Bomb bias...

You could maybe argue that people need to play both games before voting in a poll like this, but that's never gonna happen.

Anyways, saying "But we're on GB and everyone's a fanboy here (..)" isn't a good way of starting a conversation, and makes you sound like a DQ IX fanboy more than anything else.

Did I miss a "Do you know what you like?" survey, or are you just being pissy that that dragon game is getting fucked in the ass by Bastion (which is a fantastic game...I think, let me just check with @brad and get back to you)?

I love DQ9 but this isn't even a fair fight.

I love Bastion. Everything about it grabbed me. The art style, the gameplay that was far more varied than I first thought it was and the music. Oh sweet lord the music.

Bastion is pretty much one of the best games of the generation. It does just about everything right from the music, to the graphics, gameplay, polish, replay-ability, and much more. It's also a game that wastes little time in getting you into the action without being boring by telling you it's story with a lot of cut scenes. The narrator truly brings perfect harmony between gameplay and story. It respects the player by letting them keep on playing without having no control in story moments. It also has a deep combat system that has weapons that are good in most situations. Bastion should easily win this. No offense to Dragon Quest.

I know whats going to win this one but that doesn't make Bastion any good, game the generation my ass. It is a boring birds eye view dungeon hack game with a narrator that got on my nerves in less than 10 minutes.

Bastion. The ending is one of my most memorable gaming moments of this generation.

@canteu: Or...and stay with me here Bastion is a really well made game that garnered high praise from some of the biggest names in the industry as well as being extremely popular with most gamers as well.

I love both, even though it has no chance I have to give my vote to DQ9 though.

The main game was good, but DQ9 really shines in the post game. There's so much to do I spent well over a hundred hours in that game and didn't complete even half of the quests. They supported the game long after release as well, with new free quests every week and a rotating shop with rare items based on some sort of theme (Christmas, slime week, Halloween, etc).

Fuck. This.

And yet everybody else is a biased fuckwit.

Ok, I never played Dragon Quest, so I'll abstain from voting, but just my two cents: Bastion is a decent game with amazing art design and a sometimes cool, sometimes goofy narrative style. It might count as a cult classic, but I don't know that it'll hold up in any 'best of' discussions outside of it's year of release.

I am largely unable to enjoy jarpegs, so Bastion it is, even though I didn't finish it.

With it's lighthearted feel, fast battles, and intruiging story, this game manages to grab ahold of you, and never let go. So far, I've put 50 hours into it, about five or six of them postgame, and it's proven to be one of the best games all year. I'd sincerely. suggest picking up the game, and finding out why Japan loves it so much.

Bastion for the soundtrack alone.

Didn't enjoy Bastion besides the soundtrack but DQ9 was awesome. Kinda wish I finished it.

@cale:

You're holding up Amazon reviews as a source of authority? That's like holding up Gamespot reviews as a source of authority.

@video_game_king: With over 1500 reviews, I reckon it's a little more representative than the views of one person.

I don't even know what DQ 9 is. Never played it. Bastion however had a great sale on Steam. So I can only vote for it.

Dragon Quest IX was amazing.. but Bastion wins here, no contest.

@cale:

I meant to say "GameSpot user reviews", but I'm an asshole.

Again, they're Amazon reviews.

@hailinel: Yes.

The tears of DQ fans, they are so delicious.

@cale:

What about how Dragon Quest IX broke sales records in Japan? Or how that same article implies that it's still popular to this day? I'd get some actual quotes from Japanese gamers, but I don't know where they hang out.

@cale said:

@hailinel: Yes.

OK, fine. Turn this into a troll thread. I can see that this going to get real ugly really fast.

Don't even know what DXQZY is or something. Bastion?

@video_game_king: It's Dragon Quest, it's expected to sell well in Japan, like CoD is expected to sell well in the US (and plenty of people still play old CoD games). I'm not even saying it's a bad game, for all I know it could be amazing for those who are into that style of game. I was just interested in finding out what the consensus was after seeing that quote in the OP and did a search. 1500+ reviews seems like a decent amount of reviews to get a general idea on what people feel about the game. I've never got the feeling that people abuse Amazon reviews in Japan, if that's what you're implying? You feel this isn't representative? Do you harbor feelings of suspicion towards people who write Amazon reviews? Are they not worthy?

I think it's like a mobile game or something that you can buy at the toilet store.

DQ 9 was such a token offering but hey.

@cale: Amazon reviews are subject to the same skewed scoring as any other outlet that allows user reviews. Would you trust the user review scores on Metacritic?

I would have voted every other DQ (main series) over Bastion, but unfortunately DQ IX never really clicked for me...

Never played Dragon Quest, but I don't like Bastion very much, so I'll refrain from voting on this one.

Dragon Quest IX sucks. Super disappointed after the surprisingly amazing DQ VIII.

And by DQ I mean Dairy Queen, of course.

@hailinel: No, because I've seen them get abused many times. I do trust the proper reviews score on Metacritic, simply because it's extremely rare that I play a game and feel the Metacritic score is way off. I haven't seen reviews being abused on Amazon (JP), and when looking through a lot of the games I've played, the score on there seems pretty representative of what I would give it. If it was completely obvious there was some abuse going on, I wouldn't have posted that picture.

Havent played DQ9, sorry.

Or you could simply ignore it and post the picture, anyway. I mean, you're in a perfect position to do that. I'm the only other person in this thread who understands Japanese, and we both know that my knowledge of the language isn't good enough to read those reviews. That leaves nobody who can challenge your opinion with any real authority.

Both are great, and I put over 125 hours into DQ9, but it's not going to get much love from the community here unfortunately.

I don't think ability to read Japanese even factors in when there's this many reviews to pull from. I also have no reference to judge whether what someone says about the game is accurate or not as I've never played it. I just think with this many reviews, it's got to be at least somewhat representative, no? Of course there are probably some in there who have unfairly given it a 1, and probably the same for some who have given it a 5, but with so many reviews, that stuff kinda gets cancelled out. I've found that at least, using Amazon over the years, if there are a lot of reviews, it's usually pretty accurate. Just my personal experience, could be different for others.

@video_game_king: I'd be very surprised if @cale gave it that much thought.